Moot point now, but lets be honest.  Hanover isnt that good.  They benefited from more parity in the HCAC. Franklin is down. RHIT and MSJ are nearly identical to Hanover.  They had a nice season and won the conference.  Long way from a playoff team that gets to host etc. 

Franklin held serve against Bye College. On to Bluffton for a scuffle with the Beavers!!

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What happened to Smith?

Injured/broken thumb on throwing hand.  Out maybe 4 more weeks. At this point no backup in place.  QB is just one concern to be honest.  Even if Smith healthy, receivers that can get open is another issue.  Secondary not where it needs to be either.  Multitude of issues.

The GRIZ appeared to have more fight in them in the second half.  Lack of depth at QB and receiving corps has essentially squelched any opportunity for a conference championship, porous defense not withstanding. FC doesnt appear to have the juice even if QB were healthy.  Opportunities for young players to get in there this year and compete.

Coach Theo must have mailed gift cards to get so much early love for the Panthers.

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Rose-Hulman is putting in turf for this season. That combined with Earlham not playing I believe leaves Manchester as the last grass field in the conference and one of the very few in the region.

So when is (if you or anyone know if have heard anything possibly about this) Manchester going to cave and put in turf to keep up with it's competitors? IMO, they don't need to completely renovate the stadium to do so and that should lower the cost of putting just the turf on.

Their entire football set-up not good.  Most HS fields and stands are nicer.

Quote from: FCGrizzliesGrad on November 10, 2018, 04:37:53 PM
Hanover at 7-3 looks like they're heading for a Purple Power. Have to wait and see who all is in the field and within reach of each other, but my guess right now would be Alliance because I think Eureka is likely at Whitewater since they can't quite reach St John's or Mount Union.

Congratulations to the HC.  They earned the win.  I was certainly not shocked at the result.  This day has been coming all season.  Time to regroup and reflect for FC on what direction they are headed over the the off season.

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Wally Wabash & Little Giant fans

Good luck in the 125th Monon Bell game Saturday. It sounds like it is exciting, something to look forward to and lots of fun. I wish Mount Union had a similar rivalry game. I'm really envious of you guys. 125th? Wow. That's a lot of football. And a lot of good times. At least if it's as cold as I've heard, as was pointed out, the kegs will stay cold. No ice needed.
Have fun and get/keep that bell. Go Little Giants! 😃🍺❗️   

Mount could schedule MHB as the opener every year  lol

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no posts in 6 days here??  Does the HCAC have a big game this week??

Hansen gives MSJ a 70% chance to win.  47-38.

FC played some defense (a pick six and some penalties attributed to 14 of MSJ's32 points).  I may be wrong but I don't believe I saw Franklin attempt a pass in the 4th quarter. Great team effort all around to beat an improved MSJ outfit during what some would say is a rebuilding year (FC not as strong as in past seasons?)  Regardless the GRIZ roll-on towards another chance at a HCAC crown.

Looks like Hanover/Franklin for more than a rivalry trophy.

Should be, but have to see how the MSJ- Hanover game goes in a couple weeks to determine whether it's a 2 way fight or 3. If the Lions win that then there could could be a 3 way tie scenario and I have no idea how the tiebreaker works.

I have nothing snarky to say here for once, but I don't feel like MSJ would like going to Mount Union or Whitewater in the 1st Round.  That's essentially is what will happen to the HCAC Champ this year.

9-1 Franklin wont get the "death seed"  I would predict Denison or Eureka before FC.

The committee has been pretty favorable to Franklin in the past putting them in a higher spot than I'd have predicted. But I believe they're lower in the regional rankings than usual this year and I would be surprised if they stay #9 as I think at a minimum Wheaton will jump up ahead.

Honestly I think a "7 seed" might be around where they'll be. I'm envisioning Martin Luther to St John's, Eureka to Whitewater but then hard to figure out who ends up at Mount (Eureka is just out of Mount's range at 512 miles). If Hampden-Sydney can knock off Randolph-Macon to take the ODAC then they'd go for sure (they're within 500 miles). There isn't really a clear 8 seed to send this year.

They are lower but Wabash, Wittenberg, and Baldwin Wallace may not be in the playoffs thus Franklin could be in the 5-7 slot.  If Hanover wins Saturday I can easily see them being an 8 seed.

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no posts in 6 days here??  Does the HCAC have a big game this week??

Hansen gives MSJ a 70% chance to win.  47-38.

FC played some defense (a pick six and some penalties attributed to 14 of MSJ's32 points).  I may be wrong but I don't believe I saw Franklin attempt a pass in the 4th quarter. Great team effort all around to beat an improved MSJ outfit during what some would say is a rebuilding year (FC not as strong as in past seasons?)  Regardless the GRIZ roll-on towards another chance at a HCAC crown.

Looks like Hanover/Franklin for more than a rivalry trophy.

Should be, but have to see how the MSJ- Hanover game goes in a couple weeks to determine whether it's a 2 way fight or 3. If the Lions win that then there could could be a 3 way tie scenario and I have no idea how the tiebreaker works.

I have nothing snarky to say here for once, but I don't feel like MSJ would like going to Mount Union or Whitewater in the 1st Round.  That's essentially is what will happen to the HCAC Champ this year.

9-1 Franklin wont get the "death seed"  I would predict Denison or Eureka before FC.

We should find out on Sunday.

Franklin has to beat a solid hungry Hanover outfit this Saturday at Franklin first.  Hanover has finally put together a group that has a solid chance of beating the GRIZ.  9-1 was a theoretical comment.  8-2 could happen.

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Good 1st half, Wabash up 34-10, awesome 98 yd run by Avant for the latest TD.  Tempers a bit hot on both teams after a Gator cheap shot on a punt return late in the half, and an Allegheny player DQed (different kid) after the play.  Even BJ came down from the press box to make his opinion known!  So no let down so far, and I don't see one coming after that turn of events.

It was not a cheap shot.  The player who was back to catch the punt feigned  the catch to let the ball roll in the end and pretended to catch and run with the ball.  The Allegheny player thinking he had the ball  and tackled him.  It was a legit tackle with the fake.

You can review the play here. 

You'll get a good replay at 1:48:22.  Stroh is decoying by acting out the catch of a punt, not in the midst of acting out an actual return.  I don't know the specific rule here, so I can't say for sure whether or not the play was technically legal.  I can say that the play was bush league.  That's very much the kind of intent-to-injure play that the keepers of the game are trying to get out of the game.  That wasn't heads up.  That wasn't tough.  That was bush league.

does anyone know the tie breaking scenario if there is a 3-way in the NCAC.?

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no posts in 6 days here??  Does the HCAC have a big game this week??

Hansen gives MSJ a 70% chance to win.  47-38.

FC played some defense (a pick six and some penalties attributed to 14 of MSJ's32 points).  I may be wrong but I don't believe I saw Franklin attempt a pass in the 4th quarter. Great team effort all around to beat an improved MSJ outfit during what some would say is a rebuilding year (FC not as strong as in past seasons?)  Regardless the GRIZ roll-on towards another chance at a HCAC crown.

Looks like Hanover/Franklin for more than a rivalry trophy.

Should be, but have to see how the MSJ- Hanover game goes in a couple weeks to determine whether it's a 2 way fight or 3. If the Lions win that then there could could be a 3 way tie scenario and I have no idea how the tiebreaker works.

I have nothing snarky to say here for once, but I don't feel like MSJ would like going to Mount Union or Whitewater in the 1st Round.  That's essentially is what will happen to the HCAC Champ this year.

9-1 Franklin wont get the "death seed"  I would predict Denison or Eureka before FC.

Quote from: Gregory Sager on November 05, 2018, 10:48:59 PM
Hey! Why are you picking on us? NPU isn't going to be the last-place team in the CCIW this year. And the Vikings didn't finish last in 2017, either.

For that matter, neither did Anderson in the HCAC. In fact, Anderson's got two HCAC wins this season.

Anderson and Defiance hopes Earlham never folds their programs

Quote from: FCGrizzliesGrad on November 03, 2018, 04:34:09 PM
Franklin's defense really stepped up in the 2nd half. Bluffton's only points came after a muffed punt gave the Beavers 1st and goal. Franklin was well under their D3 leading average of 601.3 yards racking up just 360 but the defense held Bluffton to only 230 yards.

The streak continues as Defiance beats Earlham 28-10. That's 52 and counting for the Quakers and unless they pull off a massive upset next week will be the 2nd class to graduate without a win in their collegiate career.

MSJ finishes their season with a 44-6 win over Anderson.

Hanover looks like they'll pull out the win, up 2 scores late.

Is Jacob Earl hurt or just didn't play his usual snaps?  FC needs to get focused.  Hanover has their beast team in several years and will be coming to town on a mission. The GRIZ will need to play well.

Quote from: Pat Coleman on October 31, 2018, 12:56:48 PM
hazzben -- a lot of those answers are in our podcast with the committee chair from last week:
http://www.d3blogs.com/d3football/2018/10/25/around-the-nation-podcast-216-committee-chair-explains-it-all/

Pool B (Thomas More, West NE, or Merchant Marine)