Congratulations to those named to the All SUNYAC teams, overall thought it is a decent representation. Tough luck for New Paltz couldnt get a player named, Terlecky should have been in the discussion there for 2nd team. I do think that Ryan Myers should have been named and how does Levy make first team? Greco from Fredonia should be bumped to first team IMO.

http://www.sunyac.com/baseball/2009/AllConf09Base.pdf

Quote from: scuba16 on May 03, 2009, 09:11:53 PM

Regional predictions anyone???

When will the field be set?

Bob, spot on with first team. Also agree with Palisin coach of the year. Pretty much a no-brainer.

I would only assume that Oneonta will have the live video feed as they did against Bport. Can anyone confirm this?

So as of now by my estimation it is only possible for Fredonia or Cortland to host? Can anyone clear this up for me?

Quote from: Smithers on April 17, 2009, 12:26:42 PM

Quote from: Ruby Red Dawg on April 16, 2009, 09:20:27 PM
alot has been made on the board about Joe Brown and his coaching ability. What about the rest of the conference? What are the coaching capabilites of Palisin, Doorey, Paino, Griffiths, Beach and Ferchen?

Palisin--His program has come on as of late. They used to be considered the door mat of the conference, and you could usually ink them in as two conference wins on your schedule. Palisin who I believe is a pitcher by trade, has improved his team through that portion of the game. There ERA has gotten better each year over the past couple years (2007 and 08 ERA in the 6's, while this year they are in the low 3's). While also there D seems to be improving % in the low .900's to .965 now.

Doorey--Took over a fairly new program when he got there and has made some strides. But as stated earlier, he can make it to the dance, but can't seem to get any wins in there. He has had some pitching issues as far as depth. He has had some very talented ballplayers there over the years. Hoffman, Welch, Dahlin, Hughes and Kutolowski. Not to mention the fact that he has the luxury of recruitng to probably one of the nicest D3 facilities in the NE. He should be able to be bringing in much more talent. Doorey's teams are ones that will traditionally hit very well, but have trouble when its time to toe the slab.

Paino--Although I don't know much about him, I can only look at there statistics and there records. They really don't play as many games as most of the other teams. As far as I can tell they do not traditionally take a Spring trip (i see they did this year). It was an unfortunate thing that happend to him last spring, but it seems to me like his team was better off without him there. I am glad to see that he has made what seems to be a full rcovery. Again, like wiht most teams, pitching and defense seems to be there issue.

Beach--On paper his team is probably one of the most talented teams in the conference. Some very promising players, with loads of potential, who really have not panned out. Underachieving does not even begin to describe this team. ERA for most of the year in 6's and 7's and a very poor fielding average. Did a decent job with a young team last year, but has taken when seems to be steps backwards with this team.

Griffiths--Since he has taken over the helm, his team has been on a rollercoaster of a ride. Last years team was much improved and from the stats, looked like they had a true #1 in Zack Potter. This years team just seems to be struggling all over the place. An ERA in the 8's is not gonna win you many ball games, just ask the Brockport players. FRom what I undersstand this is a very difficult schol for academics, so perhaps that might be giving Coach Griffiths some problems when it comes to recruiting. I mean it beomes very easy to coach and to pile up victories when your team can roll the balls out and win on sheer talent alone, but what about when you have to develop players.

Ferchen--To me, Ferchen and Oneonta seem to be the biggest enigma of the SUNYAC over the past few years. Ferchen alwasy seems to have some great talent, but they just can't put anything together. A team that had 2 pitchers talented enough to play professional baseball and they couldn't win the tournament. This year seems like there best year and chance to take the SUNYAC tournament, anything less would be considered letdown IMO


Anyone have any additional insight on any of these coaches?

Palisin- Least of my knowledge, but I have saw him on the road twice. Each time made some risky moves that paid off. Definately has revamped the pitching staff of a team that always could hit. Heard many things about him as a recruiter and looks like all the effort has paid off this year. Never really thought he had the ability to take a team over the cusp of the .500 mark, I guess this year has proved me wrong. Very inexperienced in post season play, should they get there it is  uncharted territory.

Doorey- Definately has done a lot for the program and has established them as a solid team year in year out. Beautiful field lots of support and a decent guy helps bring good players in despite the unfavorable spring conditions there.

Paino- Cannot argue with success, but to me seems too much of a hands off coach. Only observed at games, does not seem to "coach" even in tight ballgames. Rarely gives signs to batters and overall doesnt offer much IMO.

Beach- A long way to go here. Young coach's inexperience showing through. I am still not sold on this Bport team regardless of the run they have had. I have seen some on the field antics that really are immature and have heard and even seen a tirade or two that never belongs on the field. I do believe that there is room for improvement and can establish himself and return the program back to where the golden eagles have been in the past.

Griffiths- Found a gem in Potter. Other than that from a good baseball area, hasn't had much to work with. Has taken IT's spot in the basement for now and a few years to come I can estimate. With that being said still no easy victory, ask Fredonia. If they are the worst in the conference I guess that says something for the SUNYAC.

Ferchen- Overall my pick for best coach in the conference. Year in year out consistent play, great pitching staff . Something must be said about developing Filak as a pitcher, surely it did not happen over night. Great facilities, lots of pride, terrific players make Ferch and his crew a highly respected team. IMO they are much more dangerous with depth and chemistry than the other Red Dragons.

Brown- well we all know by now...

Blue Devils  12   Lakers  3
Blue Devils  6     Lakers  3

Something like 30 hits for Fredonia this afternoon
Carlson 5th W

Quote from: Bob Maxwell on April 06, 2009, 12:31:35 PM
I wonder if there is something in the water down in Weyburn...

I do believe that Weyburn is UP in Canada but no fault for the mistake   

And while digging up info on Fred, I think that it should be noted that last week they started the first game late in New Paltz, and then somehow got to Hilbert the next day to play a double header at 1? That's rumor, but if that is the case, hardly can hold that type of travel against a collegiate team.

I completely agree with the predicted finish. There is such a dropoff after the top 3... CState 1, Fred and Oneonta battle for 2 and 3. After that I like Oswego to slide in based on their experience and way they closed last season especially. Plattsburgh seems to have racked up a load of soft wins, they look good on paper but don't really expect them to fit into conference playoffs.

Should the two teams play on Sunday, you will see two very close games. Fredonia is much improved on defense and their pitching top to bottom rivals anyone in the conference. To top it off their offensive numbers are outstanding. This is easily the best Blue Devils team in recent memory, rendering past history useless. I may go as far as to say that if Cortland overlooks this game by the way they set their rotation, they could drop one. Fredonia played them to 2 losses of a combined 8 runs last year I believe. This year's much better team should be able to hang with them. With that being said, Fredonia has 2 easier games on Monday against Oswego and may be setting up to play them with their 1 and 2. Either way do not sleep on this team. They don't get much talk here but I think they can surprise some teams.

Brockport did have a big win against UR this week, any chance they can be relevant come May?

Point taken, no doubt the kid can play

Bob, any insight into tomorrow's (or today's) game Brockport vs Pitt- Bradford? Looking at stats Bradford looks solid, any chance that Brockport can catch some momentum with a win or is all pretty much lost?

Also on Cortland vs Rochester?

Any other info of some other games being played soon would be appreciated

I think that this shows that C Brown has been a little spoiled with the talent that he has had in the past. To me it seems that this year's team is going struggle to put up the usual Cstate offensive numbers. I missed them earlier and have yet to see a Cortland game, but with the way some teams have been playing on their spring trips, they may see some conference losses. Oneonta, Plattsburgh and Fredonia(?) seem to be in midseason form and are piling up wins. Was able to see New Paltz and Brockport in action and it doesn't seem like they have it together yet on the mound. Just some updates on teams not commonly discussed. Good luck to all and we hope the weather can cooperate with games upcoming in the next week or two!

Quote from: baseball13 on January 29, 2009, 04:17:38 PM
Brown is a great recruiter no doubt about it.  But the school is also in an ideal location for NY baseball.  Think about the other SUNY schools.  New Paltz, very little talent comes out of that area.  Brockport and Fredonia, I wouldn't say baseball is prime in the Rochester area.  Plattsburgh is in the north country, not very inviting up there.  Oswego, same deal with the weather.  Oneonta I guess isn't too bad, but it just seems like Cortland being in the middle attracts all.  Again I'm not taking anything away from Brown but the location is ideal for him to recruit out of many areas.

Baseball is very much a big deal in the Rochester area, look at how many current and recent Cortland players are from there. Also they are some of the better Cstate players as well.

Fellas, Ive been watching this forum for months and I'd like to contribute. I have been following SUNYAC baseball for years now (I had a relative who played in the conference not too long ago). Interesting take on the predictions for this year, we all know about Cortland, but how about Oswego? Didn't they make some post season noise? Looks like New Paltz has some helfty freshman pitchers comin in anyone seen them in action?