wolfpac,

if you would like to take back your statement that cabrini was the better team, then i have no beef with you, my point was not to say that the refs were great or that you're complaints were illegetimate.  my only point was to say that gmc was and is BY FAR the best team in the csac this year.  can they be beat? yes.  were they beat? yes. are they the best team? yes.  is it close? no.

Granted....GMC was a better team but the cards were stacked from the beginning.  I really think the better team based on what resources and personnel they had were the Cavs

If you really think that Cabrini is the better team with better personnel, then it shows how skewed your thinking really is.  Were the refs shady? Sure.  Would it MAYBE have made a difference? Maybe.  I personally think that GMC knew they had it and would go on a run when they felt like pushing the lead out, then relax and let Cabrini come back.  That is why GMC won't do a lot in the tourney, they don't really play a full 40 minutes.  They can get away with it in the CSAC, but against top notch national competition it won't work.  Not to mention (as previously stated), they don't play any defense.  Back to my original point though, GMC is far and away more talented, athletic, skilled, than ANY team in this conference.  Barron may not be the best in-game coach, but when you have that kind of talent, it doesn't really matter.  

i'll take gwynnedd tonight... 93-74... i think they just overpower the cavs and they are way too physical for them

mailsy,

did you see either game?? or did anybody else see the games for that matter? what happened to the pacers?

yep, should be a lot of fun for the csac today... what are everyone's thoughts on the all-conference teams?  how about baptist bible getting 4 guys on honorable mention...?

I saw the game, so i'm aware of these things and there were a couple of freak plays like that - it also seemed like bb just stopped guarding #15 to try to not let baker get the ball in the post at the end, yet #15 couldn't make them pay... and on the play where the guy got a lucky roll from 3, the refs missed him getting hammered by the defender, so maybe it all works out... i don't think the loss hurts CU as much as you might think though since imac went down as well, still on a level playing field between those two, just gotta win baby!!

tony,

what happened to your cyclones?  it looked they led most of the game and from the box score you can see that baker and kearney were scoring almost at will in the paint... you are right that both teams played with lots of energy and fight (in a good sense)... great game to watch, just seemed like Baptist Bible stole one, which has some really big playoff implications...

i think you make some really good points there, and neumann losing a couple of their starters for the bb game (idk about other games)... i know the previous conference that pbu, bbc and keystone came from was completely different - you really only had to show up for the top 5 teams in the conference and the rest were downright horrendous... i think part of the reason bb has dropped some games to teams below them in standings can be traced there, they also have had very good bigs the last 4-6 years and this year they are playing a much smaller lineup, so its probably taking some adjustments for coaches and players to adapt to a different style... after saturdays games, what are everyone's thoughts on the playoff picture?

neumann seems to be the team that is labeled 'jekyll and hyde', but i think you could make a pretty good case for baptist bible being the same way, if not more... beat keystone 76-72, lose to centenary at HOME 86-54, then turn around and beat gwynedd 91-89... whats goin on with those guys?

so are those 4 games that gw played in going to be in jeopardy or is that unfounded and useless speculation?

gmc shot 86% in the first half, that showed bb playing no 'd' at all... smith was 9-10 for  the game, gmc shot 63% for the game, so it seems like their 20 to's played a bigger role in the loss  than anything... not sure about the whole foul thing, i know officiating on the perimeter seems to be called a little tighter up north... what are the odds that cabrini could upset gmc and take the top seed for the tourney?