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The Phoenix games are at The PHHacility, which is where Elmhurst played Marietta and UW-La Crosse last year.  I believe one of the opponents there is Whitman.

The worst court I have ever seen.  Playing on that court, so far from home, over the holiday.  I'm not sure you can put any stock in those games at all.

I think this is a bit extreme. 

As far as the "so far from home, over the holiday" part...I mean a whole bunch of teams play far from home over the holiday every year.  So I'm not sure what that part has to do with anything here.

As far as the court itself, it's definitely really funky...but I mean, both teams play on it.  Is there some reason to believe one particular team would have an advantage...to the point you wouldn't put stock in the result of the game?

https://thephhacility.com

I watched at least two games played there last year where I'd also seen teams multiple times in other places.  Night and Day.  I'm not saying the winning team in Phoenix won't be the better team, but I wouldn't make judgments about either team based on what you see in those games.  It's just several degrees removed from a "typical" regular season basketball game.

Looks like a typical game to me.  Just on a floor that is a weird color.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cW76u9Pk7lI&t=800s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XRkOHfXO1t0

Isn't it possible the the reason for the teams you watched playing sub-par was because that just happens sometimes in a holiday road game...and has nothing to do with the floor colors?  It's not like they are playing with 9-foot rims and a court that is a different shape.

It very well could be - that's already a consideration - I've just seen too many teams thrown off with unusual floor designs to really trust it.  It's just an extra layer of unusual.  If it were an adversity a team might likely see in the tournament, that could tell you something, but this just feels like a gimmick and it didn't look to me that those teams were playing to form.

Can someone confirm that the playing surface here is wood, and not just that springy rubber coating over cement that you get in some middle-school gyms and park district facilities?

I had heard the announcers chat for a moment on Friday night about Francis getting scooped up for the all-star game on Saturday. Did he end up getting to play in that or no?

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Quote from: wheels81 on March 14, 2019, 11:45:36 AM
Maybe they didn't give him region honors because he may make POY?

Hard to justify giving MOP to someone who wasn't good enough for the first team.

Would that be easier or harder to justify than leaving Francis off the first team in the first place?

It's difficult to follow this game online - for most of the first half, Wheaton was listed as Wooster and Wooster as Wheaton on the live stats page. When I tuned in, "Wheaton" was down 4, but once I found the video link, I realized they were winning. The score update on the video isn't much better - they are lagging on adding points, and the announcers are regularly announcing the incorrect score as a result. All of this is adding extra drama to the game - Wheaton is up 7 right now, but for all I know it's really a 2 point game and one of the teams is actually Augustana.

Way to go CCIW!

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Quote from: Titan Q on February 18, 2018, 08:20:50 AM
Wheaton student section "taunting profiles" for last night's game vs NCC...

https://twitter.com/AlexSCOREnson/status/965077257558675456

Wow.  Not exactly something to make the Wheaton community proud.  Organized taunting using family members names and other personal information?  How about cheering on your team in a positive manner?  Oh, I almost forgot.........

* Ryken's Rowdies - Does the President of Christ centered Wheaton College really condone the actions of this group of buffoons? A better name for the group would be the Goon Squad. And the President lends his name to this crap?

* Bottom left corner of the "Scouting Report." It's North Central so ANYTHING goes. Really? ANYTHING GOES? 

* Making fun, or trying to, of guys names, talking about ex-girlfriends, mentioning players parents and sisters names? I'm sure this has something to do with a basketball game, I just can't figure out what that is.

* Screaming (the obvious) "daddy's boy" at Connor, yelling "I see your bald spot" at the coach, and signs like "Aiden Chang combs his eyebrows." You need to come at us with more than that very weak s—t boys. By the way, the guy who combs his eyebrows just hung 20 on your asses. 

* As far as your frequent chants of "North Central sucks," check the box score boys. I think you'll see the (not very loud) Thunder
got a 17 point beatdown. Who sucks now? Seems like the only ones doing the sucking today are dressed in orange. 

And if this was the NCC football teams cheat sheet no one would be saying a word. This is a non issue in my view. I have heard stuff from other teams fans, NCC included, that make this sheet look like a hymnal. I don't get the issue.

Agree USee, seen and heard much worse over the years.  And who are you talking smack to, AO?  Doubt that any of the students involved are posting on this board and I don't think that Usee, duckfan, etc had anything to do with putting together that sheet. 

Ha!

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Quote from: Titan Q on February 07, 2018, 09:53:03 PMWheaton was going to beat about anyone in the country tonight - they were just incredibly sharp on both ends of the floor.

You saw the game and I didn't, so all I can go by is the box score ... but when I see that a team gave up 95 points on 50% shooting from the field by its opponent, the words "incredibly sharp" don't leap to mind in terms of that team's defense.

I'm just curious as to why you used that term to describe Wheaton's defense. Wheaton gave up 18 points more than its season points-against average tonight -- and this is a Wheaton team that wasn't scintillating on D to begin with (the Sonic Atmospheric Disturbance is 8th in overall points allowed, and was 7th -- and is now 8th -- in CCIW points allowed). And, since IWU only turned the ball over six times tonight, it doesn't seem like this was a great exhibition of ballhawking by WC, either.

I'm sure that Mike Schauer is ecstatic to come home from BloNo with a rare Shirk win in his back pocket, but I'm dying to ask him on Saturday in the crackerbox whether or not he thinks that his team's defense was "incredibly sharp" on Wednesday night.

I thought Wheaton did a tremendous job on Brady Rose.  They trapped him near halfcourt often, made him work very hard to get the ball in IWU's offense, and didn't give him open looks.  24 minutes into the game, Rose had just 9 points...and Wheaton had an 18-point lead.

Brady Rose makes IWU go and I think Wheaton did the best job of any CCIW opponent to date in making it really hard on him.

Right, but did you read the box score?! 

Fun game to see the telecast of Wheaton - Augie. Looked like Wheaton was going to pull it out at the right time, but Augie got a key steal, then forced a bad inbounds pass to get another steal and layup. Their guys made the right plays at the right time. I thought Francis was going to get the call for 3 shots at the end, which would have been the equivalent of the Vikings - Saints finish for the craziest end to a back and forth contest.

Quote from: AppletonRocks on January 21, 2018, 09:40:37 AM
One distinct advantage that Carthage and Carroll have is that they are not located in a state that is solvent and funds employee pensions.

*are* ?

The stats for NCC look like Wheaton's when Wheaton played @ NCC: 28% shooting, 7% on 3's, and only 52% on FT's. 

Good season, Thunder.  St. Thomas looks like Wheaton did at the beginning of the year, running out on people and then playing tough defense.  I'd like to see Wheaton come back next year with a more consistent offense, and believe with a year under their belt, some maturity will bring that.  Tyler Peters seemed to taper off at the end of the year as well, and probably due to trying to do too much on his own down the stretch.  A reliable offensive scheme would alleviate a lot of that stress.  But they got a lot of good stuff to build on out of this season.  Next year should be better.   

Let's hope NCC or IWU stays in it long enough to avenge the loss to St. Thomas, if no other reason than their moniker is just a different version of the school's name and that just lacks imagination. 

Quote from: wheels81 on March 09, 2013, 09:27:35 PM
Non existant video from St. Thomas.  Had it in first but very sketchy.  Good video feed from NC.  watching NCC and listening to WC

Probably better that the video cut out when it did.

The whistles against WC so far are pretty frustrating.  I'll chalk it up to being a young team AND some questionable reffing.  Not looking good with 15 minutes left in the 2nd. 

Quote from: Go Thunder on February 25, 2013, 11:53:21 PM
IMHO:  The one thing that Wheaton needs to work on to improve is their passing game.  Seem like it is pretty good in non conference play but when we hit the tough conference defenses it goes to the way side every year.  I believe the deliberate dribble penetration game has effected the rest of the game.  The team has begun dribbling into the defense or dribbling while open letting defenses catch up.

If Wheaton will concentrate on less dribbling and quick passes getting the ball around the horn quick with in and out passes they will see more open shots.  Lanes would begin to open up even from the sides for dribble penetration. 

Wheatons had a great year and when the passing game improves the team will take a big step in getting better.

Go Thunder!

Great point.  In the game @NCC, the first half was good and involved passing.  The second half was not good and involved a lot of dribble drives.  Hopefully they've gained the confidence to stay patient with the ball movement on offense instead of putting their heads down and charging to the hoop. 

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Quote from: USee on February 25, 2013, 12:29:50 AM
but the logic and the tradition say the best player on the best team should get this award.   To the victors go the spoils.

Has this been the case traditionally?

01--Elmhurst won conference and had the MOP
02--Carthage won and had the MOP
03--Augie. IWU, & Carthage tied. The MOP was from Wheaton
04--IWU won and had the MOP
05--IWU won and had the MOP
06--Augie won and had the MOP
07--Augie won. The MOP was from Wheaton (Raymond)
08--Augie won. MOP from Wheaton (Raymond)
09--Wheaton won and had the MOP
10--Carthage won and had the MOP
11--NCC & Augie tied. MOP from Carthage (Djurickovic)
12--NCC won. MOP from Wheaton

Regular season conference champ had the MOP in 7 of the past 12 years.

Thanks for the summary.  So we have a 58% of seeing an IWU player....