I still have no clue what there is left to argue about. Both teams had good regular seasons, but both teams post seasons ended abruptly. I'm a Webster fan but I congratulate them on making the regional. What more is there to say? Seasons done fellas, all that's left now is ifs ands or but and shoulda coulda woulda's. But none of that means a thing.

Ha bout time we agreed on somethin.

Ok fellas let's be mature. Webster choked, fontbonne didn't prove themselves in the regionals. Who cares. Both teams had a chance to prove the sliac better than expected, neither did so. It was a bad season for the sliac. There were some good spots. But overall let's look forward to a better year next year.

Anyone know if carthage is throwing one of their top guys? Or are they throwing one of their lower guys saving the best for teams they think to be better? If its one of their best, props to fontbonne for putting up 4 so far. I'm pleasantly surprised.

when Webster beats fontbonne by over 10 runs multiple times in the season, it is hard for me to believe that they were evenly matched. It seems more likely that their bats went quiet at the wrong time and fontbonne, who no one said was bad but was never on websters level till that one game, got pretty lucky and took advantage of the situation. Good for them, bad for Webster. That is all anyone is saying. I congratulate them for doing it. But as for immaturity, look at some of your own posts and fly and one and only you have both just blatantly put Webster down, when we are simply discussing what we believe went wrong for the team we thought was better, and what went right for the team that won. As we have all said earlier in the season, any given team can win on any given day. Webster just saved their 2 normal conference losses for the wrong part of the season. Ha, grow up and act like your played before and don't just straight up disrespect a good team.

See none of you defended these teams that were getting 10 runed all year. Now talk crap about the team that most people would agree, although choking in the conference, is still the better team. 25-2 is still a better conference record than any of your teams will have in the sliac. Its true, Webster looked past the conference tournament and then played DOWN to the competition level. Whoops. Won't happen again. That's a guarantee. And for the last time, wanting it real bad as you people say doesn't mean they had more heart or wanted it worse. Its an ignorant argument. Webster played the worst baseball of their season and fontbonne played their best. Enough said.

He never said the didn't deserve a shot. They do, bscause of the way they played in the conference tournament. But I will agree that I don't believe this is a team that's going to go deep into regional play.

Webster will compete well on a national level if they play like the team they were when they beat keystone and less like the team that lost close games to cortland wash u month bap and umsl. We have all seen what they can do when they keep their intensity and limit mistakes. But we have also seen the team that let's a game get out of hand and doesn't stop the bleeding when it could be done. Hopefully the latter of those two teams is gone and done with and they play like the team they can be. But we will unfortunately have to wait and see. I will agree with all of you that in non conference games they haven't always shown their worth, but in some of those games they have.

Westminster isn't big whatsoever. 315 down the lines if my mind serves me right. So definitely nothing to intimidate hitters. But It seems like every time I've been there its been a calm day. Seems like the trees kill the wind and even things out. At least while I was there it did.

Looks like nobody is happy about Webster getting the 3 spot. Anyone think they will surprise people in the tournament like they have the past few years?

They did take down 2 nationally ranked teams and were within 1 run of the former no. 1 team in the nation.  Giving keystone one of their four losses. There record might not be great but they havent been THAT bad outside of the sliac if you ask me. They had a few bad games yes, but they also played alot of good teams.

I will agree it was a rediculous shot. And add to that fuitens last night and the might have got 1000 feet in 2 hits

I wanted to mention that Joe Biagini has hit 2 grand slams in 4 games i think? Rediculous stat there.

Quote from: theoneandonly on April 21, 2009, 05:06:25 PM
I agree with most of the choices here SLIAC4Life I have however made just a few changes and swithced a few around.

1st Base- Josh Kraemer/Fontbonne
BA(.398) AB(103) R(22) H(41) 2B(9) 3B(0) HR(1) RBI(19) BB(7) K(12) OB(.436) SB-AT(3-3) ER(1) FLD(.995)

Reserves:
Chris Stenzel/Maryville
Josh Holman/Blackburn Holman seens to be in a slump which more often than not, hits him every year right before playoff time, thats why I dropped him one

2nd Base- Blake Tolan/Fontbonne
BA(.350) AB(120) R(27) H(42) 2B(5) 3B(3) HR(2) RBI(24) BB(5) K(14) OB(.391) SB-AT(15-18) ER( 8 ) FLD(.944)
Reserves:
Bill Allerdisen/Maryville
John Raffles/Principia

I know in this case allerdisen seems to be a heavy favorite. I however see that Tolan has a solid fielding % and even though its not .998 its still very high. I also find him to be more of a running threat, and it seems like he is always making things happen instead of letting everyone else make them.
3rd Base- Adam Cadle/Blackburn
BA(405) AB(84) R(23) H(34) 2B(4) 3B(1) HR(1) RBI(16) BB(7) K(7) OB(451) SB-AT(3-3) ER(9) FLD(900)

Reserves:
Robert Huckstep/Maryville
Caleb Bourne/MacMurray

Bourne is hitting .323 on a stuggling team but he does host a terrible fielding avg. Perhaps a reserve to pinch hit only. Also Huckstep is playing very well this season so looking past him and Cadle is not really necessary.

Shortstop- Zach Little/Webster
BA(278) AB(90) R(19) H(25) 2B(6) 3B(0) HR(2) RBI(16) BB(17) K(10) OB(389) SB-AT(9-13) ER(13) FLD(908)

Reserves:
Jared Mills/Maryville
Spencer W. Brown/Principia


Left Field- Andrew Fuiten/Webster
BA(398) AB(93) R(36) H(37) 2B(9) 3B(0) HR( 8 ) RBI(36) BB(23) K(25) OB(513) SB-AT(7-8) ER(9) FLD(775)

Reserves:
Adam Boyer/Maryville
Mike Silver/Westminster

Boyer seems to be playing very very solid ball. I thought at the beginning of the season his play might be fluke but he has held up a .390 Batting average and a 453 OB%

Center Field- Chad Henkelman/Maryville
BA(333) AB(111) R(21) H(37) 2B(12) 3B(1) HR(0) RBI(20) BB(9) K(12) OB(380) SB-AT(3-5) ER(1) FLD(979)

Reserves:
Alex Raetzloff/Webster
Justin Juergensmeyer/Fontbonne

Right Field- Dakota Huey/Webster
BA(422) AB(109) R(31) H(46) 2B(9) 3B(0) HR(2) RBI(23) BB(16) K(14) OB(492) SB-AT(13-19) ER(2) FLD(953)

Reserves:
John Norvell/Maryville
Jason Nikolaisen/Fontbonne
Norvell is a hitting machine right now and hasa fielding percentage of 1.000. Steals bases when asked to, which isint very often, hosts a .512 ob%, and doesnt strike out very often.


Catcher- Criag Schaefer
BA(314) AB(121) R(35) H(38) 2B(11) 3B(1) HR(6) RBI(32) BB(11) K(15) OB(371) SB-AT(4-5) ER(5) FLD(975)

Reserves:
Dan Horn/Fontbonne
Nick Knoblauch/Eureka

Knoblauch really knows how to take control of a game behind the plate.

Designated Hitter- Matt Bowman
BA(437) AB(87) R(29) H(38) 2B( 8 ) 3B(1) HR(5) RBI(28) BB(24) K(16) OB(554) SB-AT(1-1)

Reserves:
Joe Biagini/Webster
Tony Matecki/Blackburn

Although he hasnt made a huge splash in the SLIAC, he has created some ripples. He is a clutch hitter and has really helped out Blackburn this year even if the numbers dont LOOK that impressive.

Starting Pitchers

Game 1- Will Savage/Webster
ERA(2.42) W-L(5-1) APP(9) S(7) IP(44.2) H(37) R(17) ER(12) BB( 8 ) Ks(41) XTRA(6) HR(1) AVE(.218)

Game 2- Ben Eilerman/ Blackburn
ERA(5.65) W-L(3-3) APP(11) S(6) IP(43.0) H(56) R(38) ER(27) BB(17) Ks(36) XTRA(11) HR(6) AVE(.311)

Game 3- Alex Kollack/Maryville
ERA(3.86) W-L(4-1) APP(7) S(6) IP(35.0) H(28) R(18) ER(15) BB(19) Ks(55) XTRA(2) HR(2) AVE(.215)


The reason I put elierman in is hes an upperclassmen who can control a game. He has had some unfortunate defense behind him. but on an all conference team he would shine.

Relief Pitchers

Peter Quintus/Webster
Clay McConkey/Eureka
Luke Vallero/Blackburn

I think Joe Biagini should be switched to the 1 spot. He has 8 homeruns now i believe and over 45 rbi's on the season. Just some thoughts on that spot. Also, aaron senzell has been great lately and has played stellar D at second base. Just some thoughts.

Well I agree it could create a relaxed team. But I'm doubting with the thought of having an undefeated record in conference would keep them on their toes. I'd hope they have that sort of pride. Wanting to keep what could be an amazing conference season alive.