Willy,

You know my cousin, Joe Miller? You must've known eachother in high school at Mayo?? Small world...

Quote from: Dunkmachine on February 14, 2007, 10:35:16 PM
d3bballfollower I am going to have to agree with you when you said:
"I don't think any women basketball player in her right mind would claim that she could compete with a decent male basketball player. They are worlds apart on so many levels."  Tell that to Hoopscoopmiac, she said MIAC girls could tear me apart.   

Now its your turn to check your reading skills because I was the one who said that. And when you say that women's sports aren't even worth watching, I take that as a personal attack on me, so I guess now we're even.

Also, your comment about 99% of guys agreeing with you is total BS. Why is the women's board on d3hoops almost entirely men? Is it because they can hardly stand to watch women play that they feel the need to post about it?

Quote from: Dunkmachine on February 14, 2007, 02:05:02 PM
NOW to Hoopscoopsmiac....

Here is the deal, I don't care that there are women posters on here who used to hoop.  I could take any of them using my left hand only.  I have played against many great players who played in the levels of D-3, D-2, D-1, and NBA.  I also have played pick-up with WNBA players.  Women cant hoop.  They just can't.  The girl who played in the WNBA had great handels and saw the court well but guess what, she wasnt even close to the best player on the court.  I had a teammate who went to UW-Madison and played on the practice squad for the UW Women Badgers.  He was not a great player but he told me the coach would allow him and some other scrubs to play 100% when she was angry at her team.  When the guys played 100% they mopped the women up.

Top (Proven) reasons girls cant hoop:
1. They take that awkward step when they shoot.
2. Many have to still jump when shooting freethrows.
3. No strength, causing tons of loose balls and jump balls in every game.
4. They reach for rebounds on their tip toes instead of jumping.
5.  At the highest level of womens basketball, highlights consist of slow moving lay-ups and once every couple of decades a weak weak semi dunk.

No offense to women because they can do many things better than us guys, BUT basketball will never be one of them.  I wouldnt be afraid to go 1 on 1 with any women on earth!!!!!!!!

take that hoopscoop       

Dunkmachine:
I hope for their sake that you don't have a wife or a daughter, or sisters or any women in your life. If so, I feel bad for them that they have such a chauvinist for a husband/father/brother/son/whatever. How can you even compare men's basketball and women's basketball? They are practically two different sports. I don't think any women basketball player in her right mind would claim that she could compete with a decent male basketball player. They are worlds apart on so many levels.

My question is: If women's sports (especially basketball) are so difficult to watch, why on earth would you have wasted your time playing so many women (DIII, DII, DI and even NBA?!?!) in basketball? Does your ego need stroking that badly?

Quote from: Collegeville Magic on February 13, 2007, 09:51:45 AM
Happy Valentine's Day to everybody, celebrate by wearing your red!

I will be wearing CARDINAL RED!!

Well, according to someone who was actually at the game on Wednesday, Carleton was just flat out gassed to start the game. Plus, they are just not that good without Lincoln in, who has a concussion... supposedly she will be back this weekend though. Oken-Berg really didn't look to score in the second half, and SMU's posts did a good job of staying straight up and taking her right hand away from her. Isler for Carleton had 3 fouls in the first half and that affected them also.

More or less, I heard that their depth and their previous two games really wore them out. The refs were not good, but they were bad for both teams. SMU plays with a lot more energy and emotion at home, and they match up fairly well with Carleton also.

Were there no Carleton posters at the game that want to comment? What the heck happened to RC?

Quote from: Collegeville Magic on February 08, 2007, 09:53:57 AM
Quick WHAT? is in order after last night.  Even without Lincoln, Carleton loses to SMU???  Bethel's upset of the Cobs makes more sense than the Cards coming out on top (no offense meant SS).

No offense taken. I was probably as surprised as you to read the box score last night and see that my Cardinals had pulled off another upset (how is it that 2 of SMU's 4 conference wins came against top-6 teams??)!

Good win for my Cardinals last night...unfortunately it means nothing in terms of the playoff picture for St. Mary's. Still, a good win. Was anyone there who can report on the game? I'm sure horrible officiating is to blame, I mean Hannah Oken-Berg didn't even shoot any free throws (miraculously)!!!

Quote from: Da-dented1 on February 07, 2007, 03:43:43 PM
SS51...How does Bens get athletes? They host have 6 age-group Camps each year and in addition there is a Team Camp. The assistants help, there are many of the upperclassman, who work them, Kids get to know the campus get to enjoy it etc. , and they can be identified as a coming prospect. How many Coaches want to put themselves through this? And then in adddition, the tradition, and the coaches still get out to see the prospects they relly want to see come.

I am well aware how St. Ben's gets athletes year after year. And no, they are not the only team in the conference to hold camps. Far from it. I think plenty of coaches are willing to "put themselves through this," especially knowing the potential rewards. Actually, one of the best camps in the state used to be "Gustie Camp"...is that still a well-attended camp??

I think the cost of school can be deceiving. Yes, if you look at the hard costs of most MIAC institutions, they are much higher than WIAC schools (I don't know about IIAC). However, the cost for mine & my sister's college education was virtually the same--she went to a WIAC school, I went to a MIAC school. With financial aid and academic scholarships, the cost of a private education can go down considerably.

That being said, I think high schoolers are lured away from MIAC schools for DII scholarship schools more often than less expensive DIII schools. I think they like being able to tell their friends/relatives/whoever that they got a scholarship offer to X University, even if the dollar amount is barely enough to pay for a semester's worth of books....they are still considered a "scholarship athlete" which to some people has a certain ring to it.

Maybe the MIAC is getting weaker because St. Ben's is hogging all the good players for their JV squad.

I know this has been brought up before, but maybe the MIAC needs to go to a split conference, similar to some high school conferences. I'm not a real fan of it, because I think it would kill some rivalries but the conference could be split North & South. All the North teams play each other twice but only play the South teams once. That would allow for 5-6 more non-conference games per year.

North: Concordia, St. Ben's, Bethel, Augsburg, Hamline, Mac
South: Gustavus, St. Mary's, St. Olaf, Carleton, St. Kate's, St. Thomas

And, yes, Da-dented, I was under the assumption that Wash U would fly to many of their conference games, not take a bus.    If only you knew when I actually did play, it might help you realize that I'm not a complete idiot that knows nothing about the game today. I'll give you a clue, I graduated less than 5 years ago. How long has it been since YOU played?

Quote from: Da-dented1 on February 05, 2007, 11:12:43 AM
I guess I am going to elbow my way in here, since there seems to be no responses to my questions. So, I'm lighting the fire again. Back to the scheduling in the MIAC.   

"Have you seen them play?" -- She_scores51

I'm not sure about the question,"Have you seen them play?" Who are you you talking about the MIAC, WIAC, or the Teams with injuries? The thing I am concerned with is the fatigue building as the schedule grinds along.

I was referring to the WIAC. Have you seen many WIAC games? They are by far a more physical conference and I would say the more physical nature of their games would be cause for more injuries than just a few more games over the course of a month or so.

Quote from: Da-dented1 on February 05, 2007, 11:12:43 AM
Secondly, (and someone brought this up(can't find it)) for a Conference who boasts of academics, the present schedule is to the point of being ridiculous. This, especially for those who travel the most. Those who are more than 60 miles from the Metro area spend literally days in a vehicle during a season. Those especially at the extreme ends of the Conference have 11 road trips/year.  Those from the Metro area have 4 road trips/year.  Now, compound those trips, by stuffing three games in each week.

What about schools in conferences like Wash U that travel to New York, Massachusetts, Pennsylvania, Ohio, Georgia and Illinois for conference games? I'm sure those student athletes are getting it done much like the student-athletes in the MIAC. And being from one of the "extreme" ends of the conference, our longest road trip is to Concordia, and all others are 2 hours or so away (with the exception of St. Ben's, which is 3:15). I wouldn't consider a road trip to St. Thomas "days" on the road by any means. You learn to prioritize and utilize time management skills.

Da-dented1, I think you are making a bigger deal out of either of these issues than what is warranted. And as for the MIAC's "retro" style of ball, I'll take it any day. I've seen MANY great games in this conference. I don't think a spin off the dribble or a "hop-step for the shot" (whatever you mean by that) necessarily puts an individual or team light years ahead of where this conference is playing.

Quote from: gacunk on January 24, 2007, 10:17:20 AM
As an afterthought to the schedule. It would be interesting to check with the athletic trainers across the MIAC to see if this season has produced more fatigue and injuries
this year than prior years for both the men's and women's leagues. If the statistics prove out, it would be a strong point toward more reasonable future schedules.

As a former player, I never had a problem with the January scheduling. I actually liked that it was game, practice, game, practice, game, day off, practice and so on... And, am I missing something? Is there something different about this year's schedule than previous years?

Also, what is the argument about the WIAC's 12 games vs. the MIAC's 18 games over the course of 6 weeks or so? Have you seen them play? I would argue that they are more prone to injury due to the style of basketball they play, not the number of games they play over a 6-week period.

Quote from: Willy Wonka on January 23, 2007, 09:47:25 PM
Some teams — SMU pops to mind quickly — need as much work as they can get fielding a competitive team.

Thanks alot, Wonka. SMU may be down this year, but give Stimmel a few years and I think he can build the program back up. Don't forget, only two years ago, GAC got beat by SMU in the playoffs. They'll be back...

Quote from: Willy Wonka on January 16, 2007, 06:08:23 PM

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Quote from: east coast miac fan on January 15, 2007, 02:01:06 PM
I like Willy Wonka have many sources.

Your "sources" seem to have given you some pretty specific information. Unless, of course, you are the source...

If I am the source, huh? I can only dream of owning business cards that say the following:

Willy Wonka
Head of Women's Studies at SMU

Wowzers, I take off for a couple of days an my alma mater has a new Head of Women's Studies. Welcome, Wonka.

SMU looked pretty good in a win over Augsburg on Saturday. I wasn't able to see their tough loss to Bethel on Monday, but judging by the box score, they had trouble finding their offense as they only managed 14 first-half points.

I like what Stimmel is doing down in Winona and hope he can get a handful of quality recruits to really help his program out next year. For this year, I think they're going to be happy with any wins they can get. Who knows, maybe they'll get a few upsets themselves (you never know!).

ECMF, I'm curious as to who your boss might be?!?

Quote from: Cager on January 11, 2007, 12:26:43 AM
One would rather expect a program to create a culture of accountability whereby the player decided to commit to class.

Thoughts?

I agree 100%. But as a new coach, I think Stimmel has yet to create this "culture of accountability". He is probably trying to do so right off the bat.

I think no matter what level you're at — DI, DII or DIII — the motivation to go to class and do well in the classroom has to ultimately come from within the individual student-athlete. If they simply have no desire to go to class, no amount of prodding or rule-making will change that.

Wonka--I was just curious how you'd heard about the email. It was the first I'd heard anything about it...

Quote from: Willy Wonka on January 10, 2007, 02:55:15 PM
With no SMU rep on these boards, I'll throw this out there myself. The new Cards coach has very little talent to work with down bout. However, he sent out an email to the entire faculty laying out a bunch of guidelines in class for his student-athletes. The only one I specifically heard mentioned was that his players were required to sit in the first or second row of class, but the list was apparently double-digit in length.

Does any other coach in the MIAC mandate such a thing, especially for all to hear? Is this a good or a bad thing? Anyone care to speculate on what other rules he's invoked?

Wonka,

How do you know this? You must have a friend who teaches at SMU?? I don't think its out of line for Coach Stimmel to demand that his players be good students. After all, they are students before they are athletes. My guess is that it didn't get much attention from most of the faculty. They have bigger fish to fry than trying to remember which students are also women's basketball players, etc. etc.

However, I think its a good thought on Coach Stimmel's part. He's trying to get it through to these girls that class is important. Must've fallen on deaf ears to some of them though, as one of their leading scorers is ineligible this semester. When I was there, my coach required the professors to fill out a progress report 3 or 4 times per semester on each student-athlete. She wanted to catch any sort of "falling-out" in a class long before it actually happened. I don't remember ever having a teammate ineligible because of grades.

It's going to be a VERY LONG season for my Cardinals after a 40 point loss to Hamline. Ouch! 

I hope they can come up with a few surprises along the way and manage more than just a couple of conference wins. They'll need to find some sort of offensive groove though, and it appears that that might be tough.