Quote from: kirbypuckett on May 18, 2010, 11:18:18 PM
Here's a question whose the best all around Pointer shortstop over the past 10 years:  Jake Frombach, Justin Bushong, or Eric Fritz?  I'm curious to hear some opinions.  I'm going with Eric Fritz but by a narrow margin over Frombach. 

I'd have to go with Jake Frombach on that one, he was by far the best defensively out of the three, and he fit his role perfectly in the offense...Bush had an unbelievable senior year and should've been 1st team AC, but transferring from WW hurt him there, but didn't have as good of numbers his junior year (didn't help that he had to sit out a year because of the transfer rule).  Fritz can hit, no question there, but is shaky at times in the field.  I guess I have to go with Frombie because of consistency at a high level since his sophomore year.  All obviously excelled at the college level...Good ball players

Looks like Point brought their "A" game to the Tournament once again...Hopefully they can get the first one tomorrow so they'll get home early to celebrate!  Nice wins today fellas!

Looks like errors hurt the pointers in game one a couple of times.  That and lack of hitting...whoa...lets get those sticks going boys!

Ok, this may open up a whole new can of worms...but I thought I would bring this topic up...What's going on with the conference tournament???  It's now down to 3 teams.  Does this make any sense? I understand that they want to make it so it's completed in two days, but this is ridiculous.  What's next?  Are they just going to stop having the tournament?  I'm losing a lot of respect for the WIAC and the way they're starting to run things.  There was nothing wrong with the 4 team double elimination tournament, then they had to go and screw that up last year with the bottom 2 seeds being one loss and done and having the top 2 seeds play each other right away in the first round.  When in the history of post season play has the top 2 seeds played each other in the first round?!  That's terrible, what's the point of getting the higher seeds?  And now the team that wins the first game between the 2 and 3 seeds at 10am, if they lose to the 1 seed at 1pm they'd have to play their 3rd game of the day against the loser of game 1 Friday at 4pm.  So the team that WINS a game will have the disadvantage of playing 3 games back to back to back the first day if they lose to the 1 seed, while the team that lost the first game will be well rested and sitting in the same boat as the team that beat them game 1.  Is that fair? 

And as a fan, I'm not interested in driving to watch a tournament with only 3 teams in it.  If anything they should have added more teams to the tournament.

Well it looks like Point took care of business in Oshkosh today, winning game 1 9-2  and game 2 14-4.  Eric Fritz hit for the cycle in game 2, dude is having a monster year, congrats to him!...WW split with Platteville today so looks like Point is a game back from the Hawks for the top spot. 

I was at the Point/Platteville DH on Saturday and I have to say that Fritz is the hottest hitter for the Pointers right now.  Everything he swung at seemed to be hit hard.  Great to see his stick is coming around.  The D was a little shaky at times, they'll have to clean that up before they play the Warhawks.  I talked with two of the assistants on Saturday evening and both said that there is no way in he** Oshkosh should even come close to beating them.  Sounds like they're down more than we think.  Both assistants were disappointed when the poor UWO team walked away with a victory last Wednesday.  Sounds like Point will have something to prove this Wed. 
Fritz pitching...the assistants i talked to said that he just pounds the zone and makes guys put the ball in play.  I too am a little hesitant on putting too much stress on the shortstop, but I don't think Blooms intentions are to throw him a ton, I'm sure he just wanted to get him some innings in case they need to use him in tournament play, because we all know,
if you get in that losers bracket the pitching can get pretty thin.  All in all Ty Lorenz looked great.  The grand slam that was hit off of him was VERY wind aided to say the least.  On a day with no wind thats a shallow flyball to left, the kid just hit it high enough and with enough back spin for the wind to carry it over the wall.  Walking away 3 out of 4 this weekend was a little bit of a disappointment, seeing that the Platteville team was not very impressive.  But thats why you play the game.  I remember we lost a game to a 4-17 team in Stout my senior year.

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Quote from: Brewers20 on April 08, 2010, 02:44:18 PM
In all my years I know we were better than Oshkosh.  Bold statement,  I know, but I believe that we were the better team, and we proved it time and time again in the WIAC tournament and in the Regional in 07. 

Yet if you look at the scores, Oshkosh won the season series against you in 2008?  Hmm....

Then we sh** on them the first game of the WIAC tourney 10-0 in 8 innings in 2008...hmm

Quote from: cubs on April 08, 2010, 01:42:57 PM
I guess it's all about how you want to spin it....  Below you will find the number of Regular Season WIAC Championships (ties included) over the past six years.

Whitewater-5
Oshkosh-2
Stevens Point-1

Now obviously this doesn't include the WIAC Tournament, which Point has absolutely dominated as of late.  I guess I just put a little bit more weight in the regular season, because it shows what team was the best over the long haul, and not who was the best over one weekend.  As you can see, both Oshkosh and Point have quite a bit of work to do to get to the same level as Whitewater.

I understand why you put more weight on the regular season, and a lot of people will do the same thing.  But I also have to disagree with saying the team that has the better regular season is the best team overall.  Some teams just play better when there isn't as much pressure on them like the regular season, and some teams play better when the season is on the line.  It all depends on what type of players make up your squad. 

Playing for Point from '05-'08, and winning every WIAC Tournament while I was there, I firmly believe that we were the best team in years '06 & '07 (World Series appearances, Jordan Zimmermann and a line up that 1-9 could hurt you with the long ball).  '05 Whitewater was a tad better (rhinehardt) as it proved to be in the Regional and going on to win the World Series, which I believe we could've won IF we had gotten passed Whitewater, but that's IF.  In '08 Whitewater may have been a tad better than us, but it's a tough call seeing how we beat them twice in the WIAC tournament.  In all my years I know we were better than Oshkosh.  Bold statement,  I know, but I believe that we were the better team, and we proved it time and time again in the WIAC tournament and in the Regional in 07. 

Game two of Point and Oshkosh is postponed in the 4th inning due to rain with Point leading 11-1.  It will be continued on April 14th at 11am when Point travels back to UWO for the 2nd double header of the 4 game series.

9-1 after a Surman 2 run single....check that 11-1 after a Jirshele 2 run homer...too bad pickleshiner is a Finlandia fan now. LOL

Quote from: pickleshiner on April 07, 2010, 06:09:16 PM
So get pissed at me because I'm upset that Point is once again extremely underachieving.  I'm not going to sit back and say good job boys when they lost to a terrible Oshkosh team.  I don't care if it's at oshkosh there's no excuse whatsoever.  Oshkosh has lost way too much to be able to beat Point.  As far as never posting anything important on here it's BS I have just as much or more baseball/UWSP knowledge than probably 75% of people on D3.  Game 2 is do or die for Point today if they lose their looking at starting the WIAC possibly 0-6 after Platteville sticks it to them this weekend.  Platteville will be facing Lorenz and Van Beck.  We could see over 100 runs scored in 2 games on Saturday since Platteville will be throwing their bottom pitchers also.

100 runs? Come on man.

Quote from: pickleshiner on April 07, 2010, 04:50:10 PM
I'm going to become a Finladia fan.  I'm tired of the yearly letdowns of being a Pointer baseball fan.  Not that they don't have winning seasons but they just have too much talent to lose to Oshkosh this year.  Apparently Oshkosh is 1,000 times better than I thought.

Ok sounds good.  Cuz if Point comes out and wins this 2nd game I really would like to see you stay off the Point band wagon like you say you are.  And this is baseball, teams have bad games and lose to people they shouldn't.  The Yankees have way too much talent to lose to the Royals but they still do.  Stop picking every single game apart and just let the season play out.

Quote from: pickleshiner on April 07, 2010, 02:09:15 PM
Why are Archambeau and Koback not in Point's lineup today at Oshkosh?  I'm a little nervous with their lineup they have out there for game 1 against Kannenberg.

Both are a little banged up as of right now.

Quote from: MIACLUV on April 06, 2010, 10:07:41 AM
I am guessing that Coach Lechnir has a lot to do with the player walking away. He is a tough guy to play for.

It always surprises me when people leave UW-O, You have to know what you're getting into when you go there. You're gonna play it the right way and get better, if you don't perform you're going to hear it from Coach Lechnir. He's not the type of guy that's going to hold your hand and say, "get em next time" it's not who he is. But players are coddled and babied throughout high school, so when someone actually gets on them, they fold and quit. Personally if I guy were to fold up like that and pout, I don't want him as a teammate!
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Oshkosh baseball has been on the downward spiral for the past 6 or 7 years.  Might be time for Coach Lechnir to retire.

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Quote from: Brewers20 on April 02, 2010, 04:46:01 PM

Quote from: Dagger on April 01, 2010, 10:05:10 PM
whitewater is putting up ridiculous numbers right now.  I don't care who they're playing, that's something to fear! 

Ridiculous numbers for sure.  But their opponents overall record is 55-65.  I remember the feeling after beating the crap out of Superior or Stout by 20+ runs and it was nothing like beating a quality opponent.  It was a loss if you didn't 10 run rule the team pretty much.  WW hitters are traditionally very good, so we'll see if they keep up this insane offensive juggernaut throughout the WIAC season.  But I would rather be playing quality competition and winning or losing games by 1 or 2 runs, than beating a bunch of weak teams by 8-12 runs.  But I guess every team has their own philosophy, some teams like to get that confidence level up before facing the big dogs.

With the exception of Points split vs Trinity College last month in Florida, the Pointers and Warhawks schedules are very similar. At least in my eyes.

Yes they are, Pointers are definitely starting off slower than expected.   In general no one in the WIAC has played a tough schedule. 
*Point was suppose to play Otterbein but since the W&J games got postponed the first day on their trip, they had to bump Otterbein off the schedule, that would've been a good matchup as well.
I'm not taking anything away from the Warhawks, they're doing what they're suppose to and then some against the weaker teams.  But it's always a different story in WIAC play...