Quote from: StarvinMarvin on April 15, 2009, 09:56:03 PM
Times like these is when the true ability of a coach is shown and I think that's why you're seeing Cortland struggle.  Not that it's any one person's fault but from what I know of the program Brown gets all the credit and should be equally willing to take responsibility.  Any coach can study the game and win with good players but not every coach has that "IT" factor going on or a presence about them.  The guy is too much of a rollercoaster when I watch their games, FAIRWEATHER would describe it best.  IMO, the best coaches show their true ability when things aren't going well or a program faces a setback.  When you have injuries or a lack of talent, you find ways to get the most out of your players mentally, emotionally and of course physically.  Brown chooses to place blame on his players more often than not it seems.  It's ok to do that when necessary but if you do it all the time, your players aren't going to want to run through a wall for you.  That working relationship is what allows a coach to get the most out of the talent he has to work with IMO.  Year by year teams are different and a coach needs to figure out his team's identity and by this time of year have things figured out.  A guy like Valesente is a prime example.  The guy lost a ton of talent but gets the most out of his players year in and year out through his coaching style/strategies.   

You would think Brown a disciple of the Coach V school of basebal would have learned some of this...

Quote from: Bob Maxwell on April 15, 2009, 11:34:17 AM
Good post by smithers yesterday at 11:48... some good points.  I don't agree with all of them, but well said.

And once you get to the tournament it is anybody's game to win it.  Yes, it HELPS to have pitching depth, but if some thing happens that is a surprise then anything can happen.  A top seed or pitcher loses a game and anyone has to scramble a little bit.  You throw your ace and lose a game and no matter who you are you have to wonder a little bit.  These things have happened in the past and could happen again.

It will be interesting to see what happens Saturday as the Oneonta-Cortland and Plattsburgh- Brockport games will go a long way to determine who will host.  It should be much clearer Saturday night...

Bob,

Reading this last post has left me utterly confused. You have basically just restated a post about pitching depth and put it into your own words. Of course if your ace goes out and loses in the first game your gonna be left scratching your head. But how do you overcome an early loss, with depth on your pitching staff. I do not care who you are, or how unhittable your number 1 is, your are not going anywhere in a tournament without pitching depth. Just look at the history of this tournmanet, why has there been a dominance by cortland? Pitching depth.

Just look at a couple instances within the last few years of the SUNYACS

200?-Present-Cortland throws one of there bottom tier starters (3,4,5,6) and is able to a)get a win with them or b) overcome an early loss because they are so deep in pitching. Example: Young Dougher in 2005, Bilyk in 2006, Rowlands in 2008

2005-Oneonta-Salamida and Schellinger win first two, lose 2 in the finals

2006-Brockport-Maxwell and Dennstedt win first two, lose 2 in the finals

200?-Plattsburgh- Hoffman, Dahlin or Kelley give them a quality start/innings...know one is there to take the torch

As down as Cortland has looked this year, i think yesterday with there game against STJF was a prime example of how scary they still might be. Blanco the MVP of the 2008 NY Regional is yanked early, with what looks to be a control issue, Mahay comes in and cleans up the mess for 5+ innings.

Just want to send out some congratulations towards Coach John Lonardo. Have known John personally for a few years now and think he is doing a tremndous job down there at OW. I know they got in alittle bit of trouble a few years back, but I'm glad to see he has righted the ship and is turning the program back around. Keep up the good work John.

How, if at all is the moving of the Regional down to LI gooing to affect the amount of NY teams that may get in. I would have to think that hleps teams from the New England area as well as open up spots for teams from the New Jersey Conference of Athletics.

Don't really think the NY really has any legit prospects. From the sound of it, it seems Tone's draft stock seems to be fading, never seen the kid pitch but just the talk here on the board leads me to believe he might not go this year.

New to the boards here, but I have been looking at the posts for almost a year now. I don't have any children or any ties to the SUNYAC's anymore but my son did play at C-State for two years back in the late 90's and early 00's.

It seems to me like this might be one of the most competitive years when it comes to tournament time. Bunch of teams vying for four spots. It's gonna be interesting. Just looking at the Cortland Brockport games this weekend...Cortland embarasses Brockport in Game 1 and then Brockport comes back and takes Game 2...How about Oneonta losing 2 against Plattsburgh?

Can't say I wouldnt mind seeing Joe Brown get beat this year, he is a good baseball mind, but he sure has a tough time communicating to his players. With him it has always been a one man show and he is qucik to take the credit but even quicker to dump the blame on someone else. No doubt the guy can coach, but he might need a swift kick back down to reality.

Looking forward to some posting and good conversation....