Dr A, Don't feel bad I know very few of the players names. The only reason I knew Walker's name was because he was a guild during the summer preview we attended. I did look up his numbers from his freshman year and he hit pretty well when given a chance. I think he went 5 for 12 last year with 3 starts in the outfield.

I saw the second game at MU last Saturday. Hitters seem to be making better contact. The defense remains solid, I don't remember any errors. IMO there are still way to many called third strikes. I lost count after 7 players watched strike three.  Nick Walker hit the ball hard his first two at bats. I am pretty sure they both would have been HR's if he had been using an aluminum bat. Tinman, did you make it to the early game?

Game today was similar to Saturday. Pitching was a little better today. They had problems finding the strike zone at times but pitching wasn't bad overall. There seemed to be more balls hit solid today. The hitters seem to be adjusting to wood bats. There wasn't as many called third strikes which was good to see. Those things drive me nuts!!

I think there was only one error by both teams combined in a 7 inning game.

Tinman, you must have been at the second game Saturday. I was at the 10:00 AM game. I thought the pitching was pretty solid in the early game. The pitchers had problems finding the strike zone at times but all in all they looked good. They all had decent velocity and could get their off speed and breaking stuff over the plate. I was impressed with both catchers in the early game. They did a good job receiving and made strong accurate throws to second. I know Huth was one of the catchers not sure who was the other catcher. I agree with your point about the hitting adjusting to the wood bats. The one thing I saw in game one that bothered me some was the number of called third strikes. I would rather see a player swing and miss at a marginal pitch than watch a called strike three.  If it was close enough to be called a strike it was close enough to take a cut.                                                               

Quote from: raiderguy on August 29, 2009, 10:32:46 AM
Seventies,

I know what you were going through with your band. I was at the Boardman vs Cardinal Mooney game last night and Mooney had 18 members in their band plus some flags and majorettes. Wow.

Boardman won the battle of the bands with probably 150 members in theirs...unfortunately they didn't win the game on the field. BHS had like 8 turnovers and lost 23-17. I also saw an injury to BHS's rb like the Joe Theisman one. Ankle dislocation that had the kids foot @90 angle to his leg, ouch!!!!!!!

Other than the turnovers how did Boardman look. Boardman must be better than I thought they would be or Mooney isn't what they have been recently. I can't watch the vidio of the Theisman injury. When they are showing it I either turn my head or turn the channel. I am the same way when they replay the injury to Gale Sayers that pretty much ended his career.

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Quote from: HScoach on August 29, 2009, 12:41:56 PM
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Quote from: pumkinattack on August 05, 2009, 03:38:25 PM
Any of you guys familiar with DIII Ohio HS football?  We have a kid coming in from Chagrin Falls by the name of Andrew Klindera who looks like a pretty strong prospect, but I don't know anything about OH HS football.  If anyone has this knowledge, I assume it has to be MUC followers.  Any input?

Pumpkinattack, Here is a little film on Klindera. He looks like a nice player seems to be able to find the football. I would be careful with highlight tapes they tend to only show strengths. In a lot of cases against inferior competition. Ohio football at any level is usually pretty competitive. The degree of competition depends a lot on the team's league affiliation.

http://www.scoutingohio.com/index.php/view-profile.html?task=userProfile&user=145&srid=147

Quote from: Dr. Acula on August 03, 2009, 03:18:05 PM
Bump et al, I found this on youtube.  It sounds like the McPherson and Timken parts will be done in a couple weeks.  The fitness section will be done 9/30 and the fieldhouse will be done mid-October.  Just wanted to pass it along.  We'll see how close to the mark it ends up being!

Timken renovation update

Good to hear the project is closer to completion than it appeared in July. It is going to be great for the students and an asset to the college. Once the Welcome Center, Fitness Center and Field House are complete it sounds like another project will be starting. The MU website mentions they are in the process of selecting a site to build class rooms, labs and offices to house the new engineering department. The improvements at MU seem to be never ending.

JK, I think we are in somewhat of agreement here. The 1st part of the 40 the normal times are slower as the runner gets up to speed. In Johnson's case he ran the 1st 10 meters in 1.70 sec the 2nd 10 in 1.07 and the 3rd in .93 if you factor in reaction time he would have run around a 4.25. This is a believable number. The part I find hard to believe is that there are as many reported sub 4.40 times confirmed by the various combines.

40 yards is around 36.576 meters or 91.44% of 40 meters. A time of 4.66 in 40 meters converts to a 40 time of approximately 4.26 add in a reaction time of .13 and you get a 4.39 forty yard time.

Quote from: JK on July 31, 2009, 02:01:19 PM
I just want to clarify that I also think 40 times are WAAAY overblown and in NO WAY a predictor of a kids ability to succeed on the field.

The point of my argument was that the "Ben Johnson" thing is overblown, overused, and not a valid argument when it comes to 40 yard times.

I can somewhat see your point on reaction time. But I have a hard time believing that there are 100's of high school senior football players every year that would come within a yard or two of Ben Johnson in the 40. He was in the best shape a steroid conditioned athlete could be in. He was running in track shoes in perfect conditions in the race of his life. A gold medal race against the world's greatest sprinters. Running in an event he trained for his entire career. There possibly may be a few who could somewhat keep up with him but 100's every year I don't think so.

Here is a link to an article speaking to the over valuation of the 40 time. It talks about what the actual difference in distance covered by a player with a 40 time 0.2 of a sec faster than an opponent. The article explains how proper technique and taking correct angles can more than compensate for a perceived large differential in 40 times. Basically a 0.2 sec difference in 40 times only accounts for maybe 1 yard of distance over a 20 yard play. 1 yard is not that difficult to compensate for with proper cushion, technique and angles. Good coaching and football instincts can more than compensate for perceived large differences in 40 times.

http://www.crimsonandcreammachine.com/2009/3/12/794513/the-sec-speed-myth-debunke

I doubt that the Rec center will be completed by the start of fall semester. I think a more realistic date would be around Xmas break.

The Physician Asst. program at MUC looks interesting. Do you know anyone that applied and was accepted into the program? The engineering  programs are a great addition to the MU curriculum. I can't count the number of times we were on visits last winter to D3 schools and potential students asked about engineering and were told either it wasn't offered or they had a 3 -2 program with another school. Not a very good selling point to a potential athlete. 

I was on campus in the middle of July and the rec center looked to have a ways to go but the welcome center appeared to be pretty close to completion. Both are going to be very nice additions to the college when completed.

Quote from: JK on July 30, 2009, 11:18:36 AM

Quote from: Bump on July 29, 2009, 09:08:48 PM
Food for thought...

Ben Johnson, who is believed to have run 40 yards faster than any human in history. Johnson is best known for injecting copious amounts of steroids and winning the 100 meters at the 1988 Olympics in Seoul in 9.79 seconds, only to have his gold medal and world record stripped after failing a post-race drug test.

Timing officials have since broken down that famed race into 10-meter increments, and Johnson was so preposterously fast that he went through 50 meters in 5.52 seconds and 60 meters in 6.37 – both under the current world records at those distances. He went through 40 yar ds that day in 4.38 seconds.

Sorry if I seem a little skeptical on any sub 4.5 40 time. Have heard way to many sub 4.4 40's coming out of so called summer camps at a D1 University in Akron. Have a hard time believing the system was set up correctly or the thing was calibrated properly

I've seen this same thing referenced before when people question 40 times, saying "it's impossible for anyone to run faster than that."

It's a crock of $h*t, is what it is.  Apples and oranges.

First, there is a BIG differences in the way races are run because of distance.  Track coaches will tell you that even in a race as short as the 100m, there are still three distinct phases- the start, the "run-up," and then "top-end speed."  (Help me out here 70's).  The start is more than just coming out of the blocks, it's getting from there into a running position, and usually takes about 10-15m.  In the run-up, sprinters settle in- get their arms going and their stride into rhythm, usually another 30m or so.  THen, finally, they get to their top-end speed at about the halfway mark.  Watch an olympic or elite level race closely and you will see this.  THe great starters get out first, then you see them all settle in, and then you see all the passing in the last half of the race.  (I would argue there is a fourth phase as well- the finish, where guys like Usain Bolt slow down and showboat or guys who have a huge lead naturally slow as well).

The 40 breaks out the same way, but becuase of distance, it has to be done MUCH sooner in the "race."  You have to train to get to your top end speed much quicker.

Second, in track, the watch starts on the gun and in a 40 time on the athlete's motion.  Even the best starters have a reaction time around .1 seconds.  SO take that off of Ben Johnson's time and you are looking in the 4.2's

Here is some more info I dug up:
Usain Bolt's legal 9.69 (9.55 without slowing) 100m time (40 yards of it) blows it away. Usain Bolt's 40 yard during his 100m record was a 4.09 or 4.02.

At the 2001 World Championship 100m final in Edmonton, Maurice Greene covered 30m in 3.75 seconds and 40m in 4.64 seconds, extrapolating his 40 yard (36.576m) time at about 4.24 seconds.

These 2 times and races include reaction time, anywhere from 0.100 to 0.150 seconds

So, it is possible for a college kid to run faster than Ben Johnson, and it is possible for those 4.4's and 4.3's to be legit.

Did I strike a nerve JK?