Enough with trying to guess at a system that only will come down to how the final west region rankings stand, then the other regions rankings for their teams remaining....

How about some predictions?

Who's seen many games this year? I saw one of McM at HSU, and watched TLU get double dipped in Richardson this weekend. I thought HSU had the best potential to hit. I thought UTD has a few pitchers that will be tough, and I also saw them flash some leather.

Someone with more experience and who's a little smarter than this dumb jock please tell me what I'm gonna see this weekend!

I sometimes wonder if throughout the progression of their career, smaller frame guys (5'11, 155lb) like Orosey begin to wear a bit. Don't get me wrong, I still think he's probably the best arm in the west, and a top 3-5 arm in the ASC, but take a peek.

Orosey:
FR 3.72 ERA, 10-1, 92 IP, 88 K
SO 3.15 ERA, 10-1, 97 IP, 104K (And this ERA got inflated late)
JR 3.00 ERA, 0-1, 30 IP, 34K

(ERA IS lower, AND TLU is hitting .277 this year; whereas they were .331 last year, and .323 the year before -- maybe he's just not getting any run support).

Two other smaller pitchers from the TLU history books though:

Logan Hull:
FR 3.54 ERA, 7-2, 61 IP
SO 4.47 ERA, 4-4, 48.1 IP
JR 12.64 ERA, 1-5, 31.3 IP
SR 7.36 ERA, 1-1, 11.1 IP

Hull was instrumental in getting the bulldogs to, and through the ASC tournament after Newman struggled through his senior year and was never really the same after.


Kyle Newman:
FR 3.02 ERA, 7-0, 47.2 IP, 48K, .168 avg against
SO 3.20, 8-1, 84.1 IP, 105K
JR 1.96, 8-3, 78 IP, 81K, .202 avg against
SR 7.09, 0-2, 34 BB in 26.2 IP

Here was a guy who needed like 5 wins to surpass Chema Chavez as the ASC's all time wins leader, and lost all command his senior year. (It's worth noting Hull always struggled with his command).

Now with Hull & Newman there were likely some external things at work that impacted their digression as well, but for every guy built like Lincecum that holds up there seems to be 8 others that just fatigue once their innings accumulate.

Is this a result of guys throwing too much? Guys throwing in the off season? Guys not training themselves and their arms properly. Is it just an anomaly in which a bored guy on the message boards tries to stir up discussion? Perhaps.

JSG




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Hey guys, long time no talk....

I thought this was interesting, so I decided to go back and look at some stuff. What I found is that my results did not show any of TLU's pitching regressing from year to year haha. I had forgotten how bad they tore me up...

How many people have seen Orosey this year? The only thing that appears to be down to me is his wins. Sure, he is very capable of being a lights out guy, but sometimes you just have those outings where the ball seems to find holes. Has he been hit harder, or in his 30 innings (5 simple starts?) has he maybe given up an extra run here or there due to lucky hits/ possibly a defense that is not quite the same as a few years back.

I can think of a few other pitchers who could be added to that list, and I could put myself on a comparable hitters list. Sometimes you just don't have it, try to do too much, possibly battle with an injury.

Another note, you can suck your first year or two, figure it out, then have stellar jr/sr years, and nobody goes back and says "what happened their freshman year?"

Congrats to Jake Mullin as well, earning Honorable Mention on the All-American team. He had a great year despite not having legitimate protection around him. He had a great season.

Does anybody know if Orosey led the nation in innings pitched? I saw he led the All-Americans, if he did, that is an outstanding accomplishment, and even greater accomplishment realizing he is only a Sophomore.

Those two will certainly be back at it next year.

From what I gathered on UMHB's website, McM gave away a 6-0 to lose the series. Plenty of unearned runs allowed by both teams it appears in the UMHB's 8-7 win. McM allowed 5 runs in the 7th, 8th, and 9th innings.

Three dominant games from the mound. I had my own coaching duties this weekend, however, I wish I could have seen Dakota throw, from everything I've heard he threw at his potential. Good to see him step up and get a critical win to avoid the sweep.

Staggs is the one with the good fastball right? I've been trying to remember, that's the way my memory was leaning.

Congrats HSU, good to start conference against a quality opponent and walk away with two wins.

So, what to think about UMHB? They've beaten some historically good teams, but have had some recent struggles.

Louisiana came to Abilene and lost the series for the 4th time in 5 years. (HSU ended their season in '06, McMurry ended their season in '07 & '08, and this weekend McM takes 2 of 3).

I'm going to go ahead and throw it out there that Abilene is not their favorite vacation destination.

Mississippi College got after Concordia tonight. Bo Bell hit his third bomb, that kid must really be able to play. Seaman went to work- 7 innings, two walks and one strike out. As a defensive player, you have to love that. A pitcher that simply puts the game in the hands of the 8 guys behind him and keeps it moving, not much more you can ask for.


Anyone on here know anything about the new coach for Concordia? I always liked Garner, Hambone, give us a heads up on ol' dad...

Chapman takes game one 8-4. I haven't found any details about the game anywhere.

Well, I'm working about 5 and a half hours away, so I haven't seen them play. I do not know about half of the roster it seems like; i do not recognize 6 of the starters in the game against lubbock christian. But I can tell you, in my years of McMurry ('05-'09), only 2006 did we open out of the gate well. I would not give up on them yet, they do have many talented players still left over from my playing days.

However, conference is quickly approaching. I like Jake Mullin to take over that offense pretty quick. It's just a matter of time. Dakato Smith can be outstanding; I like him to return to his 2008 form where he just grabbed the ball and threw it and let his natural movement do the rest. Davis has stepped up, but it'll take more than just him.

I do not know the make up of the team, but I do know the make up of the coach. They will be competitive in conference, I wouldn't write them off yet.

Loved the breakdown Guy, always in depth. I wish I could see this weekend's matchup between Pomona and Chapman, that should be good. I've never seen Pomona, but I do know alittle about Chapman. I really haven't figured out how Sigman does it, he must have some late movement or something. He never seemed like he did anything special, but you look up at the end of the game, and very few balls will have been squared up. We'll see if he can keep up his dominant start to 2010.

Orosey was on it again, and props to Sharp and the rest of the UT Tyler staff for matching him (Orosey) inning for inning all the way until the tenth.

I guess I was wrong with my assessment of the UTD HSU matchup, atleast the Friday night matchup. We'll see if HSU comes out swinging tomorrow.

If you love ASC baseball, this will be one heck of a weekend.

TLU at UTT - both teams have been absolute powerhouses for as long as I've been around D3 (2005).
What matters most to me: how UTT's new staff preforms against a powerhouse in week 3, week 1 wasn't pretty.

CTX at MC - Mississippi through 2 weeks looks pretty good. Pitched well, have always hit, and only 6 errors in 6 games. What matters most to me: borrowing miscues from the Mississippi defense, it will probably take a couple big time performances from CTX starters to walk away with a series win.

HSU at UTD - I'm a little disappointed this game is not at HSU's little league field. With normal winds, this series could easily generate 100 total runs. What matters most to me: which team plays solid defense. Both teams will hit, who will make the plays to keep the scoring down.

McM at Chapman - Right now I'm wishing I was still at McMurry, this is always a fun series. What matters most to me: McMurry starting pitching. In the 12 regular season games I was apart of against Chapman, McMurry scored atleast 5 runs in 9 games. Scored 10+ in multiple. However, only walked away with four wins. Each of the four wins came behind solid performances on the mound.

Quote from: dp643 on February 17, 2010, 08:51:39 AM
Has anyone that has seen both Brett Holland and Orosey pitch think they are fairly comparable?

I never faced either Holland or Orosey, but from watching from 1st base coaching box I'd say Holland was a bit more of a power/strikeout pitcher in mentality and delivery. Both have smooth mechanics, from what I remember, but I believe Holland threw more "effort" type pitches where he was looking for a swing and a miss, whereas Orosey is a little bit more around the zone looking for soft contact early in the count. Both were/are very good at working ahead and neither allow many freebies. Neither pitcher, in my opinion, allow for much success with two strikes; both have above average fastballs with a good curveball (Holland) or slider (Orosey) alongside.

Congrats to Orosey, TLU has found a way to find quality arm after quality arm.

McMurry wins their first game of the year today behind an excellent effort from Dakota Smith. According to the box score, needed only 73 pitches over 6 innings allowing two hits on his way to the win. Cory Davis also looked to have thrown a good two innings.

Jake Mullin has started this season just the way he left off last year. Kid can rake.