Quote from: WLCALUM83 on March 04, 2011, 07:43:00 PM
Gotta wonder, remember that foul (at about 8 min left in 2nd half) that at first was thought to be called on WLC's 41 but was assigned to another Warrior (I was listening to the WLC feed) -- had the Warriors' other tall fould out earlier-- Didn't think WLC would out-rebound the Eagles either-

Yes, it was a big foul that they didn't give to the post defender from WLC. Would've been tougher for WLC to guard UWL down low then. However, I take what announcers say regarding fouls with a grain of salt, they don't always have a great view, and it's only one view of the field.

Areed with the rebounding. When you're taking long shots and missing like UWL was for the first 30 minutes, you're going to get more long rebounds, taking away the post advantage UWL had. Pure conjecture as to where the rebounds actually landed because I was only listening to the game.

UWL falls. It's too bad, they played well in the last 10 minutes of the half but couldn't close the gap. Had they played that way the entire game, it may have been a different story. Credit to Lutheran, they were poised, confident, and played well the entire game. It's been a lot of fun to follow these UWL seniors, congrats to all of them, they should be very proud of the way they've played this season.

UWL down 7 at half. Shooting 0-7 from 3 pt land, need to start hitting in the second half, or start taking higher percentage shots.

Quote from: badgerwarhawk on March 04, 2011, 06:21:22 PM
Season over

Too bad to hear, congrats to the UWW seniors on their season.

UWL down 5, turning the ball over too much, but so is Lutheran.

Side note: not sure how you get Lorenzo from Litrenta...

Quote from: Mr. Ypsi on March 02, 2011, 08:58:36 PM

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It would not be the craziest thing in the world if Point lost to Concordia, but as billys said I'm not hesitating too much making that pick.  There are not too many cases that I would pick a MIAC squad to beat a WIAC squad.  After watching a lot of both conferences the last 4 years there's no comparison.

While this may have been something of a "down" year for the MIAC I would be hesitant to state that there's "no comparison" between the two conferences.  While UW-Stevens Point impressed me very much when they beat UST (St. Thomas) in St. Paul back in the early part of the season, keep in mind that GAC did beat UW-River Falls in their matchup at about the same time as well.  Unfortunately, because of scheduling quirks in the MIAC, we don't get to play as many non-conference games as we should/need to get more recognition by the NCAA Tournament Committee. 

I wouldn't hesitate to say this is a down year for the MIAC, but I'd say talent level on a yearly basis is usually very similar. The MIAC has proven to have some very good teams over the years.

That being said, the style of the play between the two conferences is night and day. The WIAC looks like football compared to the MIAC.

I'd be curious to what degree that is a difference in what refs allow, as opposed to 'innate' differences in style - any speculation?

From what I've seen, the refs seem to allow a lot more of a physical style in the WIAC and that drives the teams to play a little more wreckless when defending, going after loose balls, blocking shots, etc...

Kind of what I figured.  Elite athletes are likely to play as 'rough' as they can get away with.  Teams WILL differ depending on whether they are 3-point oriented or 'slasher' oriented (as well as guards vs. 'bigs' oriented), but there is also a heavy component due to officiating.  Are MIAC and WIAC refs pretty much separate pools?

My guess would be separate pools, but that's just a guess.

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Quote from: PRF2009A on March 02, 2011, 08:51:45 AM
It would not be the craziest thing in the world if Point lost to Concordia, but as billys said I'm not hesitating too much making that pick.  There are not too many cases that I would pick a MIAC squad to beat a WIAC squad.  After watching a lot of both conferences the last 4 years there's no comparison.

While this may have been something of a "down" year for the MIAC I would be hesitant to state that there's "no comparison" between the two conferences.  While UW-Stevens Point impressed me very much when they beat UST (St. Thomas) in St. Paul back in the early part of the season, keep in mind that GAC did beat UW-River Falls in their matchup at about the same time as well.  Unfortunately, because of scheduling quirks in the MIAC, we don't get to play as many non-conference games as we should/need to get more recognition by the NCAA Tournament Committee. 

I wouldn't hesitate to say this is a down year for the MIAC, but I'd say talent level on a yearly basis is usually very similar. The MIAC has proven to have some very good teams over the years.

That being said, the style of the play between the two conferences is night and day. The WIAC looks like football compared to the MIAC.

I'd be curious to what degree that is a difference in what refs allow, as opposed to 'innate' differences in style - any speculation?

From what I've seen, the refs seem to allow a lot more of a physical style in the WIAC and that drives the teams to play a little more wreckless when defending, going after loose balls, blocking shots, etc...

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Quote from: PRF2009A on March 02, 2011, 08:51:45 AM
It would not be the craziest thing in the world if Point lost to Concordia, but as billys said I'm not hesitating too much making that pick.  There are not too many cases that I would pick a MIAC squad to beat a WIAC squad.  After watching a lot of both conferences the last 4 years there's no comparison.

While this may have been something of a "down" year for the MIAC I would be hesitant to state that there's "no comparison" between the two conferences.  While UW-Stevens Point impressed me very much when they beat UST (St. Thomas) in St. Paul back in the early part of the season, keep in mind that GAC did beat UW-River Falls in their matchup at about the same time as well.  Unfortunately, because of scheduling quirks in the MIAC, we don't get to play as many non-conference games as we should/need to get more recognition by the NCAA Tournament Committee. 

I wouldn't hesitate to say this is a down year for the MIAC, but I'd say talent level on a yearly basis is usually very similar. The MIAC has proven to have some very good teams over the years.

That being said, the style of the play between the two conferences is night and day. The WIAC looks like football compared to the MIAC.

Quote from: LA RAMS on March 01, 2011, 01:48:55 PM
I wouldn't be so fast to pencil in UW-Steven Point into the round of 16 as Concordia from the MIAC is going to be in town.  This is a team that has caught fire lately and with seniors such as Erica Nord, Lindsey Schultz, Brittany Jossart, Maggie Bauernfeind, and freshman 6'4" post Alexandra Lippert the Cobbers are going to be very, very tough to beat.

From talking to someone that watched the MIAC and WIAC this year, they thought the WIAC would roll through the MIAC. Maybe Concordia has caught fire lately, but I don't think they have a chance unless they're playing amazing right now.

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Quote from: billys on February 28, 2011, 10:22:54 AM
I haven't seen enough UWL to know for sure but how does their style match up with IWU? Can they handle that pressure?

I watched bits and pieces of the UWW-UWL conference tourney game.  At times UWL did have trouble against the press.

Agreed. It looked like a confidence issue. It wasn't that they didn't have the right setup to break the press (though UWW did a great job of putting on pressure), but that they were hesitant to follow through. They'll need to fix that collectively to beat a press in the tournament. In my opinion, with no 10 second clock, you should be breaking a press 95% of the time.

Tough game last night for UWL. They had their chances to pull away and to come back, but they couldn't quite do it. Frank and Churchill both played tough and the team played their hearts out, but there were a couple things that made the difference in the game:

1) UWW's press killed the Eagles. They just couldn't figure out how to attack it, and it caused much more angst than it should have. UWL isn't deep enough at guard to not show a team they can't press them right away.

2) UWL was in double bonus with 11 minutes left in the game, and just couldn't take full advantage. That was prime opportunity to chip away at the lead.

Frank didn't get as many good looks in the second half because she got in foul trouble early in the half. I have to agree that it was pretty brutal inside, and it disappointed me that they didn't control that. Only one of Frank's fouls was a questionable call, but it can get frustrating when refs aren't looking for the push underneath on the other end. Overall, nothing out of the ordinary from what I've seen from WIAC crews.

I hope UWL gets a chance in the playoffs. I'd love to see what they can do.

Quote from: UWRF on February 25, 2011, 08:48:05 PM
Halftime Semi-final Scores:

Stevens Point 39, River Falls 27. UWSP shooting a blistering 62% from the field

La Crosse 30, Whitewater 29. UWL's Danielle Frank has 6 and 9 at the half

Exciting game in WW. Lax needs to bust through UWW's press if they're gonna finish this one.

Quote from: Becker on February 25, 2011, 02:49:40 PM
I'm new here but had to respond to what Billy said about Dana Thompson.  I've only seen her play a couple of times but you can tell she's constantly looking for calls.  She's the exact opposite of what he said, she looks like she's getting hit when she's not.  And the stats back up what I am saying, she's shot 186 free throws and after Mesick with 166 no one else is even close.  She'll release the ball low into her defender's arms, flail her own arms, get that grimace on her face, and more times than not she get the ref's to give the call.  By contrast, Frank has only shot 77 free throws on about the same number of shots (actually more, 251-237).  It should be an interesting matchup tonight, wish I could be there to watch it.

Meh, if a player is cunning enough to get those calls, more power to her. I hate it when players are whining to the refs, but I can't say I've noticed that from Thompson.

Also, the play of Frank is more keeping the ball above her head and making moves that don't give the other player a chance to affect the shot. They can't reach the ball so they're either trying to hit the elbow or pushing her inside if they're going to foul her. Frank draws her fair share of fouls (9 on Wednesday night I think), but they're more likely to occur before the shot. My guess is Thompson, with her body frame being shorter, is making more moves that are going into the players and trying to draw that contact (I'm guessing based on limited time actually seeing her play).

Looking forward to the game tonight.

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Has Frank committed a foul all season? I didn't get to see last nights game, but saw the 2 earlier games. Congrats and thank yous to the Oshkosh seniors for a great 4 years (3 for Churchill).

I don't believe she's fouled out of any games, and for the most part she's stayed out of any kind of foul trouble.

I might be wrong but I believe the insinuation was that she has gotten the benefit of the doubt from officials and should be called for fouls. Maybe not ... but that's how I took it.

If so that seems weird cause I've always felt like kids, especially tall females, are punished by officials more often then not for being tall. Over the back calls especially where there is little to no contact but a tall girl reaches over the top and the crowd yells and the whistle blows.

I thought it might be that too, but I was going to leave that be. Two things I think you see with tall players:

1) If they're wise enough to know when to go for the block or rebound and when to just adjust a shot or leave the rebound be, they're not going to have many more opportunities to foul.
2) Even if they get a no-call on a blocked shot, they pay for it inside. If you watched the UWSP game, the SP players had their elbows pushing Frank in the back the entire game. I'd say in an average physicality conference, this should be called a foul early to get the defense in line, but the WIAC is an extremely physical conference and that's just not going to get called, along with a lot of other physical play inside.

Quote from: Voice of the Titans on February 24, 2011, 11:15:52 AM
Has Frank committed a foul all season? I didn't get to see last nights game, but saw the 2 earlier games. Congrats and thank yous to the Oshkosh seniors for a great 4 years (3 for Churchill).

I don't believe she's fouled out of any games, and for the most part she's stayed out of any kind of foul trouble.

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http://www.goredlands.com/sports/fball/2010-11/releases/201102226e2oj3

Jim Good was hired as Redlands Offensive & Recruiting Coordinator. Looks like he had a tough go as a head coach for Hamline over the last four years. Thoughts from the boards Hamline supporters?

He says he is looking forward to relocating to California, and looking outside, I can't say I blame him. Hamline was competitive in a tough conference, losing a lot of close games. Hamline not the easiest school to recruit to vs. the other top quality MIAC schools.
By the way, Hamline has now hired their new coach-- John Pate. A lot a college experience, but his most recent job was as a head HS coach in the southeast. No local connection that I can see in the Hamline release. Anybody know more? Who else did they have to choose from?

Definitely a potential #1 seed in the PST IV next year.

You know Rubes aren't eligible anymore.

Good correction, but they will be allowed into the NIT tournament, I think he'll have a good shot if he works hard this year.