Quote from: clandfan on October 26, 2009, 06:20:00 PM
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The circumstances revolving around Cortland have changed dramatically since that game.  Nevertheless, I'm doubting most of the voters really know that.  

I think PG has nailed it right on the head along with Pat's point that those who ARE noticing Rowan now see that they lost to Cortland.  I take exception to Rams 1102 basically saying that Rowan and Cortland shouldn't be mentioned in the same breath.  Cortland WAS the winner in that game and rather soundly.  If we would have been healthy going into Montclair we would have won that game too.  The Cortland team that beat Rowan is a better team than Montclair.  In the end, Montclair won't be within 20 points of either Rowan or Kean.  So yes, we were ranked quite high early.  We beat a good Rowan team and injuries that most pollsters don't know about make us a different team now.  That's why we still get votes. 

Have you considered the fact Montclair was beaten by Wilkes 37-10?  A team that is 4-3?
How about the fact that their 6 wins are against teams with a combined 16-26 record.

I will stick to my earlier observation that the NJAC is not as good as we like to think. There are two good teams in Rowan and Kean and a Cortland if they were healthy but they Caren't so I will drop them.  Next you have Montclair and Cortland and...maybe, TCNJ.  The rest are just bad.  Beat Rowan or Kean and you will get votes but I think both those games will be over at halftime.



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Cortland was the winner of the Rowan game when Rowan did not have their starting Quarterback.  If you are going to judge Rowan by results only then judge Cortland by results only .  Results are that Cortland lost to Kean and Montclair and beat Rowan without their # 1 offensive player.  Don't talk about beating someone rather soundly without mentioning that they were without their Quarterback and then blame your losses on not having your quarterback.

Quote from: rams1102 on October 21, 2009, 09:37:29 PM

Quote from: dewcrew88 on October 21, 2009, 06:34:15 PM
New column is up - Rowan gets no respect

Great Article. +K

Fantastic Article!  Rowan is getting no respect.

Quote from: Union89 on October 07, 2009, 09:45:16 PM

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Quote from: dlippiel on October 06, 2009, 10:31:35 AM

QuoteKean didn't really beat Cortland, in other words.  Did Kean really beat Trenton St. TCNJ?

Kean did beat Cortland, but they beat Cortland without their best ****in player. That means something and should be accounted for regarding a teams actual strength vs their strength without their star player. Maybe dlip took it into consideration too much, point taken, but it deserved consideration none the less. And if one feels a team is at the same strength when they are playing without their star player than they are not dipping both ****in oars into the water when trying to paddle up stream. Hence if one were to say Rochester is clearly a better overall team than RPI without Herman, dlip would agree because that was taken care of on the field. Yet, if you came to dlip and said Rochester would have still won even if RPI had Herman, one could disagree, because they haven't beaten RPI when Herman (a 3 time LL rookie of the week) was playing. So dlip feels injuries and missing players must be accounted for, especially when those players are returning to the line-up that same year.

I was at the Rowan Cortland State Game and Pitcher was the difference in that game.  Cortland State kept getting into 3rd and long situations and Pitcher kept making plays to get the first down.  He is a terrific player and he will be missed by Cortland.  Pitcher not playing in the Kean game had to have made a big difference in the outcome of that game.  By pointing this out I am not taking anything away from Kean's win.  What I would like to point out is that Rowan played Cortland without their starting Quarterback and that also made a huge difference in that game.  If Rowan's QB had played in that game the result would have been different.

Not trying to be argumentative here but, Union lost 5......FIVE starters in the Muhlenburg game......3 possibly for the season, the other 2 for multiple weeks.  If Union loses a game they should drop with no regard for the injured.....the team needs to overcome.

This is 11 man football...........not tennis or golf......damn it, this argument is silly.

Damn right the argument is silly.  But if you are going to make that argument be fair about it.  Do not take away from Kean's win because Cortland's quarterback did not play while not recognizing that Cortland's win came against a Rowan team without their quarterback.

Quote from: dlippiel on October 06, 2009, 10:31:35 AM

QuoteKean didn't really beat Cortland, in other words.  Did Kean really beat Trenton St. TCNJ?

Kean did beat Cortland, but they beat Cortland without their best ****in player. That means something and should be accounted for regarding a teams actual strength vs their strength without their star player. Maybe dlip took it into consideration too much, point taken, but it deserved consideration none the less. And if one feels a team is at the same strength when they are playing without their star player than they are not dipping both ****in oars into the water when trying to paddle up stream. Hence if one were to say Rochester is clearly a better overall team than RPI without Herman, dlip would agree because that was taken care of on the field. Yet, if you came to dlip and said Rochester would have still won even if RPI had Herman, one could disagree, because they haven't beaten RPI when Herman (a 3 time LL rookie of the week) was playing. So dlip feels injuries and missing players must be accounted for, especially when those players are returning to the line-up that same year.

I was at the Rowan Cortland State Game and Pitcher was the difference in that game.  Cortland State kept getting into 3rd and long situations and Pitcher kept making plays to get the first down.  He is a terrific player and he will be missed by Cortland.  Pitcher not playing in the Kean game had to have made a big difference in the outcome of that game.  By pointing this out I am not taking anything away from Kean's win.  What I would like to point out is that Rowan played Cortland without their starting Quarterback and that also made a huge difference in that game.  If Rowan's QB had played in that game the result would have been different.