Quote from: FROMAFAR on January 10, 2012, 01:55:54 PM
Hey PEP good hearing from you....... FROMAFAR misses the the board.... I'll keep watching, always had a little rooting interest in Stevens when not play RIT..... I think you guys may make the Tourney this year... Yea it looks like Hartwick, Stevens and Naz-- With Fisher and IC battling for #4, but you guys could sneak in.... I think the 4th team makes it with 7 losses.... BUT what???

Big win for the Saxons at Fisher today!! 76-62... Going to be an interesting rest of the season battling for the 3-4 spots!

Quote from: buck1053 on January 08, 2011, 07:56:50 PM

Quote from: AUSaxons33344 on January 08, 2011, 06:55:27 PM
I don't agree with your last line.  The program is turning around.  They've progressed the past 3 years --- everyone has off nights (like last night). 

A couple years ago I remember the Saxons lost by 30 or so to Fisher at home then went in to Fisher's gym and won by 10.  The team only has 2 Seniors and is very young.  They came back from their terrible loss yesterday to beat Utica by 5 today and in their other game v Fisher a few weeks ago , they lost by 6.  I don't think they'll be a bottom feeder of the league this year and could surprise some teams at the top. 

While Alfred has progressed from 1-15 (2-23 overall) in the E8 (9th of 9 teams) in 2007-08, to 3-13 (8-17 overall) in the E8 (8th of 9 teams) in 2008-09 to 4-12 (11-14 overall) in the E8 (7th of 9 teams), I would expect them to be 8th (ahead of Elmira) again this season, certainly no higher than 7th (if Utica is able to be as bad as they were last year and with Connolly at the helm that's certainly a posibility. Naz is winless in the league, but just about all of their losses have been close, including a 10-point loss to the Bombers.

Alfred is now 1-2 in the league and 6-5 overall. I think more than 5 wins in the league would be a miracle. Elmira twice, maybe Utica again, and then maybe a surprise. I guess, though, technically 5 wins would be an improvement.

Let's look at who they've beaten this season: New Jersey City (5-6) by 4, Hilbert (4-8) by 2, SUNY Canton (1-6) by 24, Cazenovia (1-9) by 34, Paul Smith's (4-9) by 45 and Utica (6-5) by 5 today.
So they blew out two teams with a combined record of 2-15 as well as a non-NCAA team in Paul Smith's, and had close victories over teams within spitting distance of .500, including the only team they've beaten with a winning record -- 6-5 Utica.

Now their losses: Penn State Dubois (5-7) by 18, Eastern (8-3) by 8, Penn College (4-6) by 2, St. John Fisher (7-6) by 6, and Ithaca College (11-2) by 53. Ithaca is legit and that showed, Eastern has a nice record, and Fisher is typically tough. Penn State Dubois and Penn College (which got its first win of the season against Alfred) are not high quality teams.

By the way, the most recent Massey ratings have Elmira last in the E8 (ranked 1713), and Alfred next to last (ranked 1647). Hartwick is third to last with a ranking of 1471. Those ratings aren't quite accurate though, as they did not include AU's split this weekend.

I'm sorry but those details just do not add up to a program that is turning around. Going from hitting a plateau of 4-5 league wins is not a program in turnaround.

Impressive research.  What is a Massey Rating?

Quote from: buck1053 on January 08, 2011, 10:11:29 AM

Quote from: Bombers798891 on January 07, 2011, 09:45:24 PM

I will say, I was disappointed by Alfred. There was simply no effort given tonight. Bombers scored the first nine points and had a 22-1 run later in the first half.They closed the game on an 18-0 run and held Alfred scoreless for the last 8:42. Even though the Bombers can score in bunches, that's really a letdown.

Well, given the leadership, it's not all that surprising. Murphy was bad yet they kept him for many years, and even then they didn't get rid of him, just moved him to the women's team. Then they didn't make a great choice to succeed him, they just looked at the fact he had been at Williams and their eyes lit up. Never mind the fact that the coach who'd been at Williams, Paulsen, had just left for the Bucknell job and wasn't taking Wellman with him -- not even to be a video assistant or basketball operations. If he hadn't gotten the Alfred job, he was going to be out of coaching. Not exactly a choice that inspires a lot of confidence.

I'm sure Pep will have a different take because I know he likes the guy. And he might be a great guy, but that doesn't necessarily mean he's a great coach. Obviously the team has regressed, even though they currently stand at 5-5 on the season. 0-2 in the league, 0-3 on the road and the teams they have beaten aren't exactly world beaters.

I think they will compete with Elmira, as always, for the bottom of the league.

I don't agree with your last line.  The program is turning around.  They've progressed the past 3 years --- everyone has off nights (like last night). 

A couple years ago I remember the Saxons lost by 30 or so to Fisher at home then went in to Fisher's gym and won by 10.  The team only has 2 Seniors and is very young.  They came back from their terrible loss yesterday to beat Utica by 5 today and in their other game v Fisher a few weeks ago , they lost by 6.  I don't think they'll be a bottom feeder of the league this year and could surprise some teams at the top. 

Quote from: magicman on March 05, 2010, 03:16:54 PM
Here's my guesses on tonight's action involving New York teams.

Plattsburgh St. 82    SUNYIT  70
Medaille 76   Nazareth  72
St. John Fisher 73  Brooklyn 65
Brandeis 77  St. Lawrence  68
Oneonta 68  Franklin and Marshall  66

Hope I'm wrong on the St. Lawrence score.

Naz/Medaille is tough game to pick because of Medaille's weak schedule, but they do have an impressive win over John Carroll.

Oneonta with a tough game against D3Hoops #20th ranked Franklin and Marshall  and are the dogs here but the Red Dragons own a win over #10th ranked William Paterson and I think they can get it done here if they play to their potential. 

Time to go get my tickets for the games in Plattsburgh tonight. I'll come on after the games with a synopsis of them.    GO CARDS!!! Both teams of them.

Close guess with the Naz - 78-72, I believe, in OT Medaille pulled it out.  Naz was up 10 with a couple minutes left...collapsed...  McAdam with an awesome career. One of the best players in Naz history!

Quote from: Bombers798891 on January 31, 2010, 07:02:23 PM

Quote from: AUSaxons33344 on January 31, 2010, 06:25:50 PM
Saxons by 2 over the visiting Hartwick Hawks 69-67.  25 from Stopera, 12 from Patt, 11 from Johnson (freshman).  Hartwick gets 19 from Ryder, 16 from Blazek and 11 from Phillips.....

Alfred will be a headache for some of the teams on top...beating fisher last year to knock them out of the E8 tourney is a good example...  Anything can happen.  It just depends on what team shows up to play...   

The Bombers send thanks...

LOL  sure thing.

Saxons by 2 over the visiting Hartwick Hawks 69-67.  25 from Stopera, 12 from Patt, 11 from Johnson (freshman).  Hartwick gets 19 from Ryder, 16 from Blazek and 11 from Phillips.....

Alfred will be a headache for some of the teams on top...beating fisher last year to knock them out of the E8 tourney is a good example...  Anything can happen.  It just depends on what team shows up to play...   

Quote from: thebear on January 29, 2010, 11:00:41 PM
Alas - Naz's 6-11 kid played at Potsdam last year and didn't play much.  He was very wiry coming out of high school and put on a lot of strength & muscle the last two years (He was a medical RS in '07-08).

He decided to leave for greener pastures and followed Broderick when he left Oswego for Nazareth.

Lots of Ability and glad to see he's coming into his own this year.

He looked awful coordinated and had some good big man moves.  Didn't even have to jump to dunk, really.  Glad the game was at least a tight one.  Hoping that same Alfred Team comes to play next time.  Need to close a game instead of working so hard to tie it then letting it slip away...

Quote from: the golden flyer on January 29, 2010, 06:39:55 PM

Quote from: sjfcards on January 28, 2010, 07:36:02 PM
So, I am having a hard time placing this Fisher team against the quality teams we have seen in this league in the past. I don't think they are anywhere near as good as the Sean O'Brien teams or even the Dan Mueller/Beigle team that went to the Sweet 16, but I can not remember any of those teams going 10-0 in the league.

Is the league down this year, compared to those years? Or is the FIsher team better than I am giving them credit for. I don't remember any teams in the league back a few years ago, apart from Utica, that would have been a way better team than Ithaca or Naz.

I am just having a little trouble finding what my expectations are.

Watching the E8 over the last few years, I feel this Fisher team is very solid, very well could be best team in region (sorry Medaille, but their schedule is very weak) with maybe U of R being the only team better. After seeing them play a few games this year I think the biggest difference between this year's team and the past few years is that they lack a true post presence(i.e. McSweeney, Sidney, beigel, etc.) I think this year's Fisher team is very good but if I were to compare them to the past Fisher teams that went to NCAAs in recent years, I am not sure if they are quite as good for that reason. However, defensively you could make a case that is better than any Fisher team in year past. I would agree that Fisher could win a couple games in NCAAs, especially if they do host a first/second round games....With that being said, I also believe that the E8 doesn't have a lot of parity this year. Last year the E8 was dominated by Ithaca for the most part but after that, was very balanced with a lot of teams jockeying for position down the stretch for the conference tournament. This year I think there are 4 teams fighting for the remaining 3 spots.....

As for tonights slate of E8 games...

Stevens @  Fisher - Big game between #1 and #3, this game is bigger for Stevens especially if they want to stay on pace with the other top teams for post season play. Stevens hasn't faired to well with these long road trips since joining the E8. Tough place to play at Fisher, with one of nations best defenses....Fisher 65 Stevens 56

Alfred @ Naz- Naz coming off a tough loss in the Battle of the Beaks...can't have a let down. Alfred not a pushover by any means...Naz 81 Alfred 65

RIT @ Utica- A must win game for RIT if they want to make a run ( which i think they still can FROMAFAR). In a similar position to Naz last year when they were 2-5 and they made conference tourney. RIT grinds out this road game 63 to 57

Elmira @ Hartwick- I think this game will be a lot closer than expected. Elmira can shoot the ball well from beyond the arc and I think they can hang around for most of the game. I think their defense will give way to defeat in the end however...  Hartwick 78 Elmira 68

There are a lot of "beaks" in the Empire 8 -- Ducks, Soaring Eagles, Golden Flyers, Cardinals....just throwing it out there, making an observation.

But Naz took care of my Saxons 72-62....close at half and tied late.. Naz made their free throws and hit a couple clutch shots.  McAdam looks strong as always and that 6'11" kid had 2 or 3 dunks. (6'11" at D3 level??? did he transfer fom a bigger program or something)...Corletta played well for Naz as well.

Had a few freshman play well for Alfred -- Curran, Costello, Bobo and Mormon all looked good and made some plays.  Bright future for that group.  Kwiecien had 15 or 17...Patt and Stopera played well also.

On to the next one...Need a W!!!!!

Rit wins 58-45.... AU couldn't get anything going.... Low scoring game like most of the games v RIT usually are.  Testament to good D or bad O??

Rit up 32-20 on Alfred at the half....18-2 RIT early on...5 point spurt in the last 5 seconds to make it a 12 point game by AU....Just inside halfcourt buzzer beater by Ron Smith to end the half...  RIT looks good on D..Saxons can't get anything going...  Lets hope (for my sanity's sake) they can turn it around with a good start to the 2nd half.

GO SAXONS!!

The Saxons hang on for a 61-60 victory.  A lot of missed opportunities for Utica at the end.  Abrams missed a wide open lay-up on an inbounds play with 12 seconds to go.  A lot of missed free throws by the Saxons also that Utica could not capitalize on.  Hard fought game with Goodman leading the way for Utica 29 pts and 8 boards. 

LETS GO SAXONS!!!!

Saxons up 37-30 at half v Utica.  Distributing the ball and looking good defensively as well.  Patt is 3-4 behind the arc and the rest of the team is shooting well.  Let's see if it can continue and they can close this one out!!  Go SAXONS!!!