Elmira's got some very promising freshman recruits, specifically in Zoltowski and Forrest...For the sake of the program, I truly hope that those players have the fortitude to learn how to further hone their game of Basketball rather than learning how to play the game of the mind which, over the past two years, has forced other very talented and driven players out of Elmira's roster. I am thoroughly impressed by the initial play of the newbies, but truly haven't been impressed by anything the existing "veterans" have shown to this point. Even in life, there are Leaders and there are Followers, however, a Leader's attitude and drive cannot be successfully replaced by a Follower's mere ambition. In a program which substitutes sycophants for athletes, things don't look good for the immediate future of Elmira's women's B-Ball. Rebuilding of the program is indeed what needs to be accomplished if success is to be achieved in the extremely competitive ranks of the Empire 8 Conference. Veteran experience surely will take a back seat to the promising new splash of youth in regard to being the formula for success for the Soaring Eagles. It's time for the Freshmen to STEP UP and turn this team around !!!
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Region 3 women's basketball / Re: Empire Eight
February 15, 2010, 09:18:04 AM
VENTING TIME...In my book, and in many others,' there is a world of difference between constructive criticism and outright under-handed rudeness of comment made to individual players of the game.
Recently, a "fan" had been observed obviously planning the timing of his/her exit from a recent road game to coincide with a certain player's entry into the gymnasium after the game. That person then proceeded to mutter guided and improper comments to other nearby fans with the obvious and specific intent of having them being overheard by this certain player. I will not get into the specific comment(s) made and witnessed by many, but I will say this...Grow up, Shut up, or Stay Home. I/We support ALL of our players, win or lose.
Recently, a "fan" had been observed obviously planning the timing of his/her exit from a recent road game to coincide with a certain player's entry into the gymnasium after the game. That person then proceeded to mutter guided and improper comments to other nearby fans with the obvious and specific intent of having them being overheard by this certain player. I will not get into the specific comment(s) made and witnessed by many, but I will say this...Grow up, Shut up, or Stay Home. I/We support ALL of our players, win or lose.
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Region 3 women's basketball / Re: Empire Eight
January 31, 2010, 11:04:28 AM
The Friday game against Hartwick was indeed a pleasure to watch. This was by far the best game of the season for EC. The girls played with obvious desire and effort and they seemed to be led well by the coaching staff. Everyone involved played well together truly showing what can be accomplished through teamwork. I, for one, am thoroughly impressed by how well and consistent EC is now shooting from the FT line. In this game, there were a lot of good inside looks and not a whole lot of wasted shots. The defense was strong and was even switched up a bit by Coach Howley. It genuinely appeared as though the team was having fun on the court. I'm not sure what happened in the Saturday game against Utica 
Once again, too many offensive throw-aways and generally sloppy play.
Once again, too many offensive throw-aways and generally sloppy play.
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Region 3 women's basketball / Re: Empire Eight
January 28, 2010, 11:27:57 AM
I'm truly sorry you feel that way...As you said, We all want the same thing...to see Elmira succeed ! Why don't we turn this thread around and post some positives about what we expect to see from the Ladies of Elmira this weekend against Hartwick and Utica ?
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Region 3 women's basketball / Re: Empire Eight
January 28, 2010, 09:37:15 AM
...OOPS...Sorry, I hadn't been logged on when I checked hoopster12's profile and thus the email address was hidden...My mistake and I apologize !
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Region 3 women's basketball / Re: Empire Eight
January 28, 2010, 09:23:01 AM
In response to hoopster12's post, let me say this...I do agree with many of the points you made in your post inclusive of the fact that the coach bears some of the responsibility in those areas in which our team is not succeeding. I do also agree that the players themselves bear a share of that blame as well. However, for those of us concerned about the direction of the program to be labelled by you as a "critic of the program" and, in your own opinion as the only "program supporter," only blaming the coach for its failures, you could not be more wrong. Although there have been many recurring coaching faux pas pointed out in recent posts, there have also been inconsistencies and weaknessnesses (as well as strengths) of certain players brought to discussion in past posts. In my prior post, I said this...
"We, the fans, see the true potential in our EC Athletes, but only those athletes and their Coaches can exploit those talents and desires to turn this program around into a WINNING situation for all those involved. In closing, wins vs. losses mean nothing to me...A Winning Program merely means that everyone involved is on the same page and is in search of THE SAME GOAL !!!"
I stand by that statement and will not hide behind any of the comments or posts that I have made to this point. Conversely, I just wonder how a first-time poster on these forums is able to have an email address of "hidden."
Regardless, I respect your views and opinions as just that. I think we all are looking for the same thing in the end. Keep on posting.
"We, the fans, see the true potential in our EC Athletes, but only those athletes and their Coaches can exploit those talents and desires to turn this program around into a WINNING situation for all those involved. In closing, wins vs. losses mean nothing to me...A Winning Program merely means that everyone involved is on the same page and is in search of THE SAME GOAL !!!"
I stand by that statement and will not hide behind any of the comments or posts that I have made to this point. Conversely, I just wonder how a first-time poster on these forums is able to have an email address of "hidden."
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Regardless, I respect your views and opinions as just that. I think we all are looking for the same thing in the end. Keep on posting.
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Region 3 women's basketball / Re: Empire Eight
January 25, 2010, 11:53:11 AM
I really don't know what else to say other than I am ecstatic to see that the EC women hung in there and got their first conference WIN over R.I.T. this weekend !!! After the Nazareth game on the Friday before that, I was beginning to wonder if the wins would ever come to fruition. The Lady Soaring Eagles played with purpose and all-out desire for the first half of the Naz game until going into the locker room with a 15 point lead. Everything seemed to be "clicking" for EC until they re-emerged from the locker room for the second half. It just leaves me wondering, WHAT IN THE HECK was discussed over that half-time break It sure as heck was not game strategy that was discussed, since within a mere five minutes, that lead was cut down to 3 points (a 12-0 opening run by Nazareth). I just cannot fathom the thought of what could have caused a "Team-on-fire" to just come out and give up like that. Nazareth obviously went into the break with the sole purpose of making the necessary adjustments to turn the game around and they did just that ! In that regard, I tip my hat to Coach Gotham of Nazareth ! Why did it take the first five EC possessions under a full-court-press to make ANY adjustment to that press whatsoever ? For God's sake, in the very least, an EC time-out would have been the very least that should have been done to re-gather your team before that commanding lead was squandered away to nothing !!! How is it even possible to accept that it took those five possessions to make the decision to put in a legitimate and capable ball-handler to even begin an effort to combat that press THIS GAME SHOULD HAVE BEEN A WIN FOR EC, BUT WAS THROWN AWAY !!! Even within the closing 10-15 seconds of the game (when the win was still accessible), why would any coach willfully pi$$ away a dreadfully important 7 seconds on the clock when EC was only a single 3-pointer away from tying up the game in the closing seconds of the game In that case, it actually took an observant benched senior to actually call that necessary time-out in order to even give EC a shot at saving face. I am far from one who knows all there is to know about the game of basketball, but I do know that there is far too much talent on this team that is not being used wisely. My only wish is that these very fine AND VERY TALENTED young ladies somehow put aside their differences and come together with the coaching staff and accomplish what is easily within their grasp !!! It will take a concerted effort BY ALL involved to again make the game enjoyable and fun for all !!! It truly turns my stomach to see what may be in store for the EC 2010-11 season if and when some of those talented key players decide not to return to the court. Once again, CONGRATULATIONS to the EC Women on their win over R.I.T. We, the fans, see the true potential in our EC Athletes, but only those athletes and their Coaches can exploit those talents and desires to turn this program around into a WINNING situation for all those involved. In closing, wins vs. losses mean nothing to me...A Winning Program merely means that everyone involved is on the same page and is in search of THE SAME GOAL !!!
It sure as heck was not game strategy that was discussed, since within a mere five minutes, that lead was cut down to 3 points (a 12-0 opening run by Nazareth). I just cannot fathom the thought of what could have caused a "Team-on-fire" to just come out and give up like that. Nazareth obviously went into the break with the sole purpose of making the necessary adjustments to turn the game around and they did just that ! In that regard, I tip my hat to Coach Gotham of Nazareth ! Why did it take the first five EC possessions under a full-court-press to make ANY adjustment to that press whatsoever ? For God's sake, in the very least, an EC time-out would have been the very least that should have been done to re-gather your team before that commanding lead was squandered away to nothing !!! How is it even possible to accept that it took those five possessions to make the decision to put in a legitimate and capable ball-handler to even begin an effort to combat that press THIS GAME SHOULD HAVE BEEN A WIN FOR EC, BUT WAS THROWN AWAY !!! Even within the closing 10-15 seconds of the game (when the win was still accessible), why would any coach willfully pi$$ away a dreadfully important 7 seconds on the clock when EC was only a single 3-pointer away from tying up the game in the closing seconds of the game In that case, it actually took an observant benched senior to actually call that necessary time-out in order to even give EC a shot at saving face. I am far from one who knows all there is to know about the game of basketball, but I do know that there is far too much talent on this team that is not being used wisely. My only wish is that these very fine AND VERY TALENTED young ladies somehow put aside their differences and come together with the coaching staff and accomplish what is easily within their grasp !!! It will take a concerted effort BY ALL involved to again make the game enjoyable and fun for all !!! It truly turns my stomach to see what may be in store for the EC 2010-11 season if and when some of those talented key players decide not to return to the court. Once again, CONGRATULATIONS to the EC Women on their win over R.I.T. We, the fans, see the true potential in our EC Athletes, but only those athletes and their Coaches can exploit those talents and desires to turn this program around into a WINNING situation for all those involved. In closing, wins vs. losses mean nothing to me...A Winning Program merely means that everyone involved is on the same page and is in search of THE SAME GOAL !!!
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Region 3 women's basketball / Re: Empire Eight
January 14, 2010, 08:37:58 AM
I'd have to agree with jakhogan (to a certain extent) and even more so with TheNextLevel...I feel that Matt Donahue was a fine coach and an excellent person; In contrast, I feel that Erika DeSanty was an excellent coach and a fine person. The combination of both of them made for a good coaching staff for EC. Either, or both, of them offered more to the EC program than Howley has or ever will. As I mentioned before, season win-loss records are not all that important to me...To me, it's much more important that the coaching staff have not only an understanding of "The Game," but also a through understanding of, and a certain bond with, their players. After the past two seasons, it's evident to me that Howley possesses neither of those qualities. Furthermore, EC's current practice of constantly rotating in a Grad Student Assistant Coach every two years is a joke in itself. How could any coach build a program around that ? As sotier put it, I am also more concerned with "moving forward," as are (obviously) the fans and parents in the stands.
Sotier...Hmmm...Perhaps that wouldn't be a bad thing for Director of Athletics to be made aware of, huh ?
Quote from: sotier on January 13, 2010, 02:30:36 PM
...note to athletic advisor,find her see if she is interested in head coach job. They would be better for it.
Sotier...Hmmm...Perhaps that wouldn't be a bad thing for Director of Athletics to be made aware of, huh ?
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Region 3 women's basketball / Re: Empire Eight
January 11, 2010, 09:26:57 AMQuote from: sotier on January 07, 2010, 11:43:05 AM
...All that negative said...Its not too late to salvage the season...
Well...Hopefully the outcome of, and the intra-team cooperation shown in, the Clarkson game is a sign of better things to come for the Ladies of Elmira !!! I concertedly hope that the salvation sotier referred to is forthcoming. The EC women finally played well TOGETHER. Even the spectators in the bleachers seemed less hostile and cheered positively for ALL of the players on the court. In my humble opinion, again, some minor substitution decisions as well as a time-out or two which seemed to temporarily break the offensive momentum could have been an issue, but it all played out well. Regardless of the known outcome of this game with the checkmark being placed in the "win-column," this game, whether it had been a win or a loss, is a WIN for EC. As I mentioned before, the blame cannot be placed upon one, or even several, individuals for past poor performance; this is a team-sport and everyone needs to recognize their respective role in it. Coach Howley seemed to me to be actually "In This Game." Being the skeptic that I am, I will say this; I hope that the fact that there were four recruits present to watch the game had no bearing on the Coaches demeanor and efforts during this contest. I also truly feel that every game for EC is an important one, whether it be an E8 contest or not. Let's first get the winning attitude, and perhaps the conference wins will follow. However, on this occasion, Congratulations to Coach Howley and to the Lady Soaring Eagles for a step in the right direction. As sotier put it, hopefully "Its not too late to salvage the season..." Hopefully, even more so, it's not too late to salvage the TEAM.
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Region 3 women's basketball / Re: Empire Eight
January 07, 2010, 04:11:04 AM
I missed the Ithaca game, but from what I heard, it was one of the poorest games yet. I did, however, take a look at the box scores for the game and the stats really are sickening. According to the stats, I'm assuming that you're referring to Kent as being the one shooting a good percentage of her shots in the first half (3-5 with 13 min of playing time) and then only 3 additional minutes of playing time in the second half ? What's the deal with that ?...Like I said, a vast majority of the substitutions made by Howley are ridiculous at best ! It sure seems as though if you're hitting, you're pulled out and if the team gets on a run, she calls a time-out and ends up breaking the momentum. I've seen this on several occasions over the past few games. I'm really beginning to wonder if she really wants to WIN. You are also correct on the issue of seldomly ever hearing any offensive play being called out. It's the same player motion on nearly every offensive possession. In regard to some of the other issues you have pointed out, I will say this...I truly feel that there are obviously some "head-games" being played by Howley so as to further breed the lack of harmony amongst the players. I could go on and on with other issues of concern, but for now I guess I should just keep my mouth shut and try to be "politically correct." I just hope that someone else in a higher place sees what's going on as well and takes some steps to change it. It's a shame, for the girls' sake !!!
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Region 3 women's basketball / Re: Empire Eight
January 04, 2010, 01:39:25 PMQuote from: sotier on December 01, 2009, 07:42:11 PM
...I think you and I are the only E8 people interested in expressing views on this years teams.I hope we start getting views from other fans about their favorite team and how they are fairing...
EC remains MY TEAM...and I am very much looking forward to any reply/rebuttal from "sotier" and "TheNextLevel" in regard to their thoughts as well !
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Region 3 women's basketball / Re: Empire Eight
January 04, 2010, 10:03:14 AM
I've been waiting patiently for some new posts in this thread, but I haven't seen any such thing since the last several EC games have come and gone. I guess I'll take the opportunity to break the ice and hopefully spur some further discussion. I will begin by saying that any transition to a new coaching staff will have its trials and tribulations, however I personally don't see Coach Howley building much at all for the future of the Women Soaring Eagles. For the first year, I remained mute and opted to give her a legitimate chance to show what she had in the way of coaching ability and/or desire. As this second year of her coaching winds deeply into the season, I feel that the time to stand mute has indeed passed. Instead, I now see the team as regressing despite all the talent that many of the players possess. It sure seems as though the Team has no desire to play to win and I cannot help but feel that this is largely the fault of poor coaching ability in combination with the girls' lack of incentive to play the game. Although I, and others, feel that poor decisions are continually being made in the way of improper game-time player usage and/or substitutions as well as the lack of proper adjustment during game-time situations, "Coaching" is much more than game management. In the same regard, continually losing games is not, in itself, a sign of poor coaching. However, breeding dissention within the team may very well be a sign of the same. There seems to be no unified harmony on the court and we have players whom had once loved the game now considering walking away from it. This post is truly not intended to be a "coach-bashing" session, however some changes need to be made for the future of the program, and even more so, for the sake of the young women involved. 
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