Funny how they have Hope ahead of Norb's...

Actually Mr. Roop, among other MWC teams they shot the 3 ball just as often. They play to their strengths like any good team does, and they are a good half court team.

You all bring up very good points about preseason rankings and the possibility of Norb's being over ranked. Personally I am looking forward to Norb's showing you all that they are better than what you give them. I remember during the NCAAs last year when you said they wouldnt win a game and they did. Granted they weren't used to the physical play and played terrible vs. Point but they were still only down 7 with 4:26 left. They had a chnace to close the gap but did not have experience to do so. Now obviously they do. I know you are not "hating" on their skill but they are better I think than what you give them.

"But I've got a huge problem with St. Norbert at #9.  Who have they beaten?  Well, everybody they've played except for Northwestern.  Now, if this was the Big T1E1N squad we're talking about, then that's respectable... but it's the UMAC team.  And it was at home.  Yes, they're the best UMAC team, but that isn't saying a whole lot.  The UMAC is on the bottom at Massey.  And Northwestern is rated # 121 in Massey.  Now, SNC is #15, and I guess I'm OK with that to a point... (I mean, they HAVE beaten everybody else they've played...)  But really, who is that?  Per KnightSlappy's RPI rankings, they've got the 74th highest rated RPI...  but their OWP is .414 and their OOWP is .540.  Now, more cannot be asked of them than to beat the teams they play... but if they keep playing teams that aren't good, and the teams above them who ARE playing tough teams lose, then the old St. Peter Principle is in action again (I'm going to use it til it gets old GS!).  It is absolutely possible that they very well may be the #15 team in the country... but how do we know unless they are tested by other top teams?  There should be a way to kind of cap them. 

I think part of the problem is that, unless you really take a look at a team like St. Norbert, it's hard to compare them to other teams that more may be more about in terms of who they've played.  The victories against Oshkosh, Elmhurst, and Chicago would have looked great last year or two years ago... But these three teams are .500 at best this year thus far.  They really don't have an impressive victory."

I think that you do have to look at St. Norbert a little closer. They are 16-1 with a few things to keep in mind. They have won games with their leading scorer out against Illinois College, which beat a D1 team in SIU Edwardsville this year, and other games. Granted thats a pretty weak team but its D1. IC also gave Illinois Wesleyan a game earlier this year. Thier PG battled an injury and they made major lineup changes mid-way through the year. When you have as good a defense as anyone in the country, you can play with anyone in the country.

Your right they don't play the best teams, but I'm confident they could give even the Pointers a game

Go Green Knights!!!