Quote from: desertraider on December 12, 2018, 12:37:50 PM
In NCAA Alabama ran it in the 90s, urban ran it at BG, Snyder ran it at K State. Vikings in NFL ran it in late 90s...I think they had the Alabama qb who ran it there, dolphins ran it in 2008 and 09. Mount ran it as mentioned. So used more recently than pee wee ball.

You're right.  Upon further review, I do remember seeing it outside pee wee.  In the 60's Massillon ran it against Alliance.  The quarterback took the snap under center with an empty backfield and literally walked parallel to the line of scrimmage until he found a hole to run through.   I think that was 75% of their offense in that game  and it worked.    The most effective wildcat I saw other than that was Florida (under Urban) with Tebow.  He was a bruising running back, but he was also a threat to throw so the defense couldn't just put everybody on the line of scrimmage.   

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Quote from: desertraider on December 12, 2018, 09:50:49 AM
Another way to look at is...I scored 4 touchdowns in one game for Polk High...and I will tell everyone about it....forever.

Way I see it is the focus is too much on what he did last year. It was LAST YEAR. All the talk about him being 29-0 is fun but he is 14-0 and has been a non factor thus far in the playoffs.  I am concerned about his confidence.  When he got pulled last week ESPN showed him on bench and he looked off...for lack of a better word. Then they put him on 3rd down and pulled him again and he looked deflated. How long does that stick in his head and how it affects him Friday will soon be seen.

I saw what I thought was dejection/lack of confidence on his face also.  I hope it was understandable anger because he had been taken out so Mount could run an offense (continuous wildcat without any deception)  that hasn't been seen outside of pee wee football in about a hundred years.       

Regarding switching players in and out. I do admire VK and staff on being willing to adjust in game on utilizing your best players and different formations in order to win games. I have witness many times over my years a coach being unwilling to bench a player or adjust an offensive scheme to win games.

No, I agree it was a good adjustment by the Mount coaching staff.   I'm just amazed that the defensive coaches for JHU couldn't make an adjustment  to stop it.   

Quote from: desertraider on December 12, 2018, 09:50:49 AM
Another way to look at is...I scored 4 touchdowns in one game for Polk High...and I will tell everyone about it....forever.

Way I see it is the focus is too much on what he did last year. It was LAST YEAR. All the talk about him being 29-0 is fun but he is 14-0 and has been a non factor thus far in the playoffs.  I am concerned about his confidence.  When he got pulled last week ESPN showed him on bench and he looked off...for lack of a better word. Then they put him on 3rd down and pulled him again and he looked deflated. How long does that stick in his head and how it affects him Friday will soon be seen.

I saw what I thought was dejection/lack of confidence on his face also.  I hope it was understandable anger because he had been taken out so Mount could run an offense (continuous wildcat without any deception)  that hasn't been seen outside of pee wee football in about a hundred years.       

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I'll be watching the Stagg Bowl even though I wish Mount was there.  It's a great matchup of speed vs strength and power.   

I think this does a disservice to both teams.  Oshkosh has plenty of fast dudes, UMHB has plenty of big dudes.  Nobody ever gets this far in this tournament without both.

I was wondering how this comment would hold as the game played out.  Sure, UWO has fast dudes- in places.  I'm sure Devon Linzenmeyer is a straight line fast dude, but he isn't a BJ Mitchell side to side fast dude, and that's the sort of fast UWO needed.  They ended up with 30 yards on 29 carries because they couldn't get outside.  UMHB definitely has both big and fast in all the right places.

Still boggles my mind that BJ only got 4 carries in the 3rd quarter last week.     

30 yards rushing for the game is unbelievable.  BJ exceeded (6 carries, 34 yards) that in the last drive (3:41) of the second quarter last week. 

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Quote from: gizzmo13 on December 16, 2016, 11:12:04 AM
as a spoiled mount fan, today doesn't feel right. 1st time since 05 not either en rout to salem or off work getting ready to watch game on espnu..

I'm with you, except it's been two years for us. 
Normally at this time of day, we'd be having lunch at Corned Beef & Co- along with bloody's and beer chasers.  Our plan would be to get to the beer store (different from liquor store), grocery store and plan on arriving for tailgating around 3:30.
The parking lot is awesome with all the banners, the grilling and the bag toss.  And the music stage has been great every year.
Just a great environment, especially since the games have gone to evening (like the 2009 snow game).

That 2009 snow was such an aberration.  Salem has only had 3 tenths of an inch of snow total in December in the last five years and that was all on one day in 2012. 

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I'll be watching the Stagg Bowl even though I wish Mount was there.  It's a great matchup of speed vs strength and power.   

I think this does a disservice to both teams.  Oshkosh has plenty of fast dudes, UMHB has plenty of big dudes.  Nobody ever gets this far in this tournament without both.

Yep. I can name a number of players on MHB that I have studied and watched who have speed, strength and power (Hello Teidrick Smith, Markeith Miller, etc). I have also seen enough of UWO to know they have dudes with all those attributes.

I'm sure you're both right.  I categorized (probably unfairly) both teams based on the semifinal games - the only time I'd seen them.   I still would prefer to see MHB play in space and take some shots down the field and Oshkosh control the ball and play tough defense.  But,  I'll keep an open mind and try to notice the speed of Oshkosh and the strength and power of MHB.   It won't be easy.

Quote from: section13raiderfan on December 16, 2016, 08:42:23 AM
Watching the Jack Dear highlight video I liked his speed and ability to dodge the first tackle but I noticed one thing that alarms me too. He's very right arm dominate and runs in traffic without two hands on the ball. He doesn't like to switch arms to protect from oncoming tacklers. That will have to be coached out of him. If you want to see a Qb with great escapability and a strong arm, the kid from Warren Harding was unreal. I can't see him going D3 but maybe someone should pitch him just in case. I definitely would not like to see him play against us for sure. Everybody watch the Stagg Bowl anyways....we have to be the good sports now!

I'll be watching the Stagg Bowl even though I wish Mount was there.  It's a great matchup of speed vs strength and power.   I expect MHB to win, but the weather (28 degrees at kickoff) favors Oshkosh.  I'm curious to see the crowd size.  The weather will probably keep locals at home.  It's bad timing - we're supposed to be in the 60's on Sunday.  When I worked for the IRS, my boss lived in Roanoke so we talked about the Stagg Bowl.    She said she would go watch one if Mount wasn't playing.  She liked the Mount people, but she was tired of seeing them every year.    That was ten years ago so she must really be tired of Mount (and Whitewater) now.  This is her chance to see a non-Mount game, but I'm sure she's not going to sit in below freezing weather.

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Quote from: gizzmo13 on December 14, 2016, 03:51:38 PM
id like to see Tevion Cleveland from Perry hs end up at mount, perfect fit, little smaller in size,  like 5-7 155  but crazy skills at rb, wr, db kick ret, even played qb.. those are the kinds of kids that grow a little in college then people are like how'd this kid not get a d1 scholarship.

He wants to concentrate on academics in college and doesn't want to play sports.  I don't blame him.  He started as a freshman and took a beating for four years.   Great player, but undersized even for DIII.

He'd be undersized for a jockey - I'm sure that height and weight are "rosterized".

He's way too big to be a jockey.  They're usually under 120 pounds.

Maybe we just have bigger jockeys in the Northeast than they do in Alliance?   

I'm in Northern Virginia and I know the owners at Pimlico in Baltimore are not letting a 155 pound jockey ride their thoroughbreds - maybe their Clydesdales.   

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Quote from: gizzmo13 on December 14, 2016, 03:51:38 PM
id like to see Tevion Cleveland from Perry hs end up at mount, perfect fit, little smaller in size,  like 5-7 155  but crazy skills at rb, wr, db kick ret, even played qb.. those are the kinds of kids that grow a little in college then people are like how'd this kid not get a d1 scholarship.

He wants to concentrate on academics in college and doesn't want to play sports.  I don't blame him.  He started as a freshman and took a beating for four years.   Great player, but undersized even for DIII.

He'd be undersized for a jockey - I'm sure that height and weight are "rosterized".

He's way too big to be a jockey.  They're usually under 120 pounds.

As listed he is about the size of BJ.

According to the roster, BJ's about 20 pounds heavier (5'6 175) which can be significant at the lower weights.  Of course, it's comparing a HS senior to a college senior and I don't know what BJ weighed as a HS senior. 

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Quote from: gizzmo13 on December 14, 2016, 03:51:38 PM
id like to see Tevion Cleveland from Perry hs end up at mount, perfect fit, little smaller in size,  like 5-7 155  but crazy skills at rb, wr, db kick ret, even played qb.. those are the kinds of kids that grow a little in college then people are like how'd this kid not get a d1 scholarship.

He wants to concentrate on academics in college and doesn't want to play sports.  I don't blame him.  He started as a freshman and took a beating for four years.   Great player, but undersized even for DIII.

He'd be undersized for a jockey - I'm sure that height and weight are "rosterized".

He's way too big to be a jockey.  They're usually under 120 pounds. 

Quote from: gizzmo13 on December 14, 2016, 03:51:38 PM
id like to see Tevion Cleveland from Perry hs end up at mount, perfect fit, little smaller in size,  like 5-7 155  but crazy skills at rb, wr, db kick ret, even played qb.. those are the kinds of kids that grow a little in college then people are like how'd this kid not get a d1 scholarship.

He wants to concentrate on academics in college and doesn't want to play sports.  I don't blame him.  He started as a freshman and took a beating for four years.   Great player, but undersized even for DIII.

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Quote from: Kira & Jaxon's Dad on December 12, 2016, 09:48:17 AM
IMO, Davis played great up until this past Weekend.  As a True Freshman (18 or 19 years old) leading the Defending National Champions to the Semifinals I think he played above expectations.

Hard to see how many open receivers there were based on Camera Angles during the game (as they usually focus on who has the ball), but I did see Kennedy on a deep drag, coming across the field, wide open on one of the plays Davis was scrambling to his right.  Davis ended up throwing the ball out of bounds.  I suspect that the pressure from UMHB front 4, and the dropping of 7 in coverage made it more difficult for him to find his receivers.  Also the pressure of playing in such a close game, on the road, with the weight of the program on his shoulders.

Again I think this team overachieved this year and I am very happily surprised on how well the Defense played this weekend, after giving up so many yards/points in the other playoff games.

Good looks for the future of UMU.

inwould also say not to forget the team speed of UMHB. Davis threw one pass to a "wide open" receiver and Hickey turned on the jets and picked of the pass. the receiver had several steps on him. I've watched all year as "open" receivers failed to be open when the down field pass got there

Great point.  There was a significant speed/quickness difference on both sides of the ball.  Mitchell stood out as the one Mount player that could match that speed and quickness.  I think in some cases MHB was probably  baiting Mount's freshman QB to throw to "open" receivers.   Mount's defensive effort is even more commendable given the speed of the team they were facing.   I also thought that for the most of the game MHB played too conservative on offense.  They had the athletes to make plays like the tipped ball in the end zone (not a fluke play in my opinion) and to get speedsters out in space, but didn't do that for most of the game.  Maybe the Mount defense just frustrated them.    If they play conservative on Friday, they'll help Oshkosh.   

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Quote from: section13raiderfan on November 26, 2016, 02:56:35 PM
JCU in ot! How sad that its a playoff game and the empty seats outnumber the filled seats 10 to 1. It looked like the same wAs true at the UMU game.

It's like that everywhere on Thanksgiving weekend, honestly.

Play the game in Alliance and the fans will show up.

                                                 

Attendance

11/28/15  Albright at Mount             1258

11/26/16  Mount at Johns Hopkins    1145

I guess you're right.  113 more will show up.

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JCU in ot! How sad that its a playoff game and the empty seats outnumber the filled seats 10 to 1. It looked like the same wAs true at the UMU game.

It's like that everywhere on Thanksgiving weekend, honestly.

Especially so in Ohio when the D3 games are up against OSU/Michigan.    They're fortunate to get anyone there that isn't related.

I went to the Hopkins game and was pleasantly surprised by the size of the crowd.  As mentioned, Thanksgiving weekend-most of the students are gone.  Hopkins plays lacrosse at the highest level (DIV1?) so most of the students and alumni are primarily lacrosse fans - the other sports are an afterthought.  Hopkins doesn't charge admission for football during the regular season, so I would guess most of the locals who would come to watch for free during the regular season are not going to pay $8 for a playoff game.    But, it was a good atmosphere in a nice stadium and I enjoyed the game.  The people who didn't go missed a good game. 

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Is Johns Hopkins University connected to the Medical Center of the same name?

Yup!

Well...
My medical insurance card says "Johns Hopkins," but they are all baffled as to why I bleed PURPLE & WHITE!!!
GO RAIDERS!!!!!

You might be a die-hard Mount Union fan but I'm pretty sure you bleed a mixture of stout beer and beef jerkey.

Well, I said it before, and I say it again ... I still baffle Johns Hopkins medical professionals ... even though, RC, it is light beer and chicken wings these days!  (They bow down and worship my cholesterol results, by the way).
Myself (MUC Class of '81), and my oldest daughter (MUC Class of '04) will be at Homewood Stadium for the game tomorrow.  We both work in D.C., but live in Odenton, MD.  Anyone that decides they do not want to drive home after the game, we have sleeper space at our houses; bring your overnight bag, as we do not offer all the hotel accoutrements.  You will, though, have to "spring" for the stout beer and beef jerky at our local "dive" watering hole!

I'm driving up from Fairfax tomorrow morning.  Getting to the campus is no problem, but I was wondering about parking.  Do you know if there's stadium parking or do we have to look for visitors' parking elsewhere on campus?