Quote from: The Champ on February 25, 2010, 08:00:27 AM

Quote from: Just Bill on February 24, 2010, 10:40:57 PM
Technical fouls on the head coach are assigned to the bench. The head coach is responsible for any T on an assistant coach, manager, trainer, etc.  So a head coach could be tossed for two bench T's even if they didn't actually get one themselves.

Thanks for the clarification!

Quote from: UWRFI am not completely sure, but I think the technical was on Tiffany Gregorich.  She jumped off the bench after a no-call went against her sister.  She appeared to be yelling and didnt want to sit down.

That's probably it.  I didn't see what happened - was watching the action on the court.  But as soon as the whistle blew and the T was called - I looked a Cindy and she seemed completely calm at the time - not the attitude typically shown by a HC after having a T called on them individually.

Yeah that does make sense.  I saw the ref speaking with Coach Holbrook for awhile, but both were pretty calm, so they may have been  speaking about why he was calling the tech.
That's probably it.  I didn't see what happened - was watching the action on the court.  But as soon as the whistle blew and the T was called - I looked a Cindy and she seemed completely calm at the time - not the attitude typically shown by a HC after having a T called on them individually.

Quote from: The Champ on February 24, 2010, 06:16:49 PM

Quote from: wisco87 on February 24, 2010, 05:42:55 PM


That was my point.  I wasn't complaining about who the fouls were being called against - just the sudden timing of the change in how the game was being called.  Consistency went out the window after that T foul.

The RF runs started at about the 11 minute mark and lasted about 2 minutes, fueled by 4 fouls against Stout and some excellent play by the RF team, bringing the Stout lead down to 18 points.

After that, things settled down and the lead floated between 15 and 21 points, with the final score 86 - 70.


Sounds like it was a great game.  I had a 2 hour drive home, so chatted with the players for about 30 minutes and headed home...

Great quote about consistency going out the window, because that basically sums it up.  All in all, I thought it was a strange way to officiate the end of a game with a 20 point lead. 

Quote from: The Champ on February 24, 2010, 11:06:28 AM
The game last night...

Was a good one for Stout.

But two totally different games in each half.

It appeared to me that RF was trying to stop Stout's scoring by fouling them and forcing them to the line to score.  But Stout sank 67% of the FT's accounting for 50% of their 20 point first half lead.

Second half started the same way with Stout building the lead to 30.

But then the game changed.  A technical was called against the RF bench (don't know what happened) with about 13 minutes to go.

After the technical, the refs must have decided to call anything that looked remotely like a foul.

In the last 13 minutes of the game, these refs called a total of 21 fouls.  That's 2 more fouls than were called in the entire first half!

The outcome of the game was a foregone conclusion (both teams putting the bench players in) and the refs were still called 2 touch fouls with less than 20 seconds to go.

It was a painful/joyful game to watch, if that makes any sense.  It was dragged out because of the officiating, but my team was winning...

I believe the tech was on Coach Holbrook.  She was speaking with the ref and then he called the foul and pointed to her, although it was the most calm technical foul I've ever seen, so I'm guessing she must have said something.  There was another post about RF missing layups in the first half, which may have been the game.  I did some very unofficial tallying, and thought it was around 8 layups they missed, that should have been made.  Although it is easy to say from the stands that a shot should have been made.  That being said, that would have trimmed the 20 point lead at half to only 4.  It is complete speculation, but may have changed the game. 

You make a good point about the fouls, it was, well a lot of calls being made that I don't think were made in the first half, so pretty inconsistent.  RF was able to make a run the final ten minutes of the game, mostly from the hustle of there three senior guards.  The score was something like 60-28 at 10 mins or so left in the game, and got the lead down to around 15 or so at one point.

There was also a great mens game after for anyone who watched it, with Stout nailing a 3 pointer at the buzzer to win.  So a great night for Stout fans.  Not so much for the Platteville/River Falls fan in me.

Quote from: badgerwarhawk on February 22, 2010, 10:44:17 AM
The number of fouls is interesting but what is more significant, imo, is the number of free throws that result from the fouls called.  Here's those number to do with as you please.

Team....Free throws attempted....Opponents free throws attempted

Eau Claire...439...434
LaCrosse....470...428
Oshkosh.....497...409
Platteville...600...388
River Falls...500...461
Stevens P...485...503
Stout..........661...687
Superior.....403...515
WW............538...591

I wonder what the deal is with Platteville.  They've attempted the second largest number of free throws and their opponents have shot less than any other program in the league. The numbers indicate that Stout's opponents get to the line significantly more often than any other program's opponents and nearly 100 more times than the next closest.   

I smell a conspiracy.   

Stats can get pretty interesting sometimes can't they haha.  Now I am just guessing, but I wonder if it has anything to do with Platteville's margin of victory is -1.1.  So in games where there leading, there typically closer games, thus more fouling especially late in the game.  However, when UWP is losing, it is by a larger margin so there not fouling to try to get back into the game.  Idk for sure, just a guess. 

#35 Maranda Dohrn of UW-River Falls had a huge game yesterday vs. UW-Platteville. Scoring 23 points and grabbing 22 rebounds en route to a 56-47 win of the Pioneers.  It was senior day for UWP, and after falling down by as much 19 points, they lead a spirited effort in the 2nd half to make the game close again, but UWRF made enough plays down the stretch get the W. With LAX, big win over SP, RF falls to the 5th seed for the tournament, so they will have to play on the road, where they have had there struggles during the 2nd half of the season.  Furthermore, River Falls roster has been looking like a line at a doctor's office lately, with numerous injuries and I don't think they have had there original starting lineup since the 13-0 start.  That being said, they do have the ability for a number of different players to step up on any given night, and if they come out on fire, they will be touch to beat.  Should be an interesting game Tuesday as each team was beat eachother this season.  RF with a close victory in OT, and Stout with a more convincing 13 point win. 

Quote from: Bears rule on February 07, 2010, 04:40:27 PM
Will someone explain how RF losses to Superior, then rolls EC and WW.

I know, I know, I said the winner would have 3-5 losses way back before the season started. Maybe #2 will have six losses. Could we be looking at #2 thru #6 seed be determined in the last week? SP was lucky to have a bye Saturday because they might have lost after Stout ripped then Wednesday at SP.

Now back to the RF game. Looks like WW could not shoot. Did anyone see the game. Were they just missing open shots.


Looking for your thoughts.

Hi, I haven't posted on this board yet, but I did see both RF vs. WW games.  I guess you could say I'm a new fan of the conference, and I'm not very familiar with teams other then River Falls at this point, so I am by no means an expert, but thought I could try to answer some of your questions about the game.

It looked as if Coach Holbrook and her team made a lot of adjustments for this game.  The loss to WW a few weeks ago was their first of the season, and was the start of a string of bad losses for the team.  In this game, RF came out with a different starting lineup adding some more speed to the starting 5.  A big difference between the last game and this game was RF didn't use their full court press much, if at all during the game.  This allowed them to set up in the half court, where they played very good defense.  WW didn't get many open shots in this game, and RF did a good job of denying touches in the post.  WW then had to shoot from the outside where there shoots didn't seem to be falling very well (3-19 from three).  #21 Nicole Bundy for WW really showed her range, as many of her three's came well out side the 3pt line, outside of Bundy; however, no one else made a 3 for  WW.

Since RF didn't press, it seemed they had more energy for the full 40 minutes, which allowed them to consistently break WW's full-court press.  WW plays a very good defense, especially in the full-court, and that was a major reason for why RF lost in the first meeting.  However, RF guards really attacked the middle of the press this time, and was able to make some good things happen for them.  Most importantly, they were able to get the ball into the post, which is very difficult against WW post players, but after breaking the press RF had the numbers and was able to find the open player.   Rf outscored WW 38-12 points in the paint, thanks in part to the baskets generated from the press breaker, but also due to the play of #35 Maranda Dorhn for RF who played very well and had 18 pts.