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#1
Region 3 men's basketball / Re: Empire 8
March 19, 2012, 11:53:12 AM
How does Smith from Stevens Tech not get a first team position on one of the East region polls, D3Hoops or NABC? He averaged more points per game than any of the these big men except for Jared Suderley. He also averaged more rebounds per game than any of them, the closest being Suderley averaging 3.4 less. He also is nationally ranked in 3 categories; 5th in rebounding with 12.0/game, 8th in field goal percentage at 62.6 and 2nd in double/doubles with 21.

      FG  FGA   FG%   3FG 3FGA   3PT%  FT  FTA FT%   OFF REB DEF REB TOT REB AVG REB  PF   
Smith, Simon   191 305   0.626  0   1   0       120 191 0.628  97       238       335       12.0   69   
Stein, Andy     177 314 0.564 17  45   0.378  60  84 0.714  35       138       173        6.4    64
Suderley,Jared   205 374   0.548 17  52   0.327  98 118 0.831  80       152       232        8.6    60
Pebole, Matt   143 274   0.522 23  54   0.426  87 118 0.737  57       155       212        7.3    52
                        AST AST/GAME TO STL BLK PTS AVG   WON LOST
Smith, Simon    58  2.1             74 38  13  502 17.9    20   8
Stein, Andy       68  2.5             48  8   28  431 16.0    21   6
Suderley,Jared 49  1.8      46 18  10  525 19.4    23   4
Pebole, Matt    46  1.6      50 23  20  396 13.7    23   6

   

   
#2
Region 3 men's basketball / Re: Empire 8
January 27, 2012, 10:30:25 PM
Quote from: AUPepBand on January 27, 2012, 09:58:21 PM
Quote from: Bombers798891 on January 27, 2012, 08:29:22 PM
Quote from: magicman on January 27, 2012, 09:01:15 AM
Quote from: with age came? on January 27, 2012, 04:01:25 AM
Thought that Elmira was improving and obviously I was right as AU wins a squeaker.  AU Pep are you going to predict who Elmira will beat for that first W?

I don't think Elmira will beat Nazareth.

Considering Nazareth already beat them by 53 points once, I'm going to go out on a limb and say this is accurate

Go ahead and build your treehouse out on that limb, 798891, Pep thinks you'll be safe.

Fisher easily handles Elmira (0-8) to go 3-5.
Nazareth does the same to Alfred and now 6-2, dropping AU to 4-4.
Ithaca edges Stevens to stay pace at 6-2, Stevens now 5-3.
Hartwick clobbers Utica to remain in the hunt at 6-2, Utica falls to 2-6.

Stevens beat Ithaca
#3
Region 3 men's basketball / Re: Empire 8
February 15, 2011, 11:28:00 PM
The game is Saturday 4:00 PM. Should be exciting.
#4
Region 3 men's basketball / Re: Empire 8
February 14, 2011, 05:29:06 PM
There was a little home cooking. One of the few times that I have seen it at Stevens. There were a lot of no calls but not like Friday night against Naz, 19 fouls total in a physical game. Big games for everyone involved this week but as far as hosting the tournament I think it will come down to Saturday against Ithaca vs Stevens. I hope I can avoid another trip through Binghamton this year where I will have to branch off North, East or West.
#5
Region 3 men's basketball / Re: Empire 8
February 11, 2011, 04:41:38 PM
Quote from: FROMAFAR on February 11, 2011, 01:37:23 PM
Hey Old Duck, I look for Stevens to win big tonight. If I still have my coaching hat on, NAZ plays a lot of match up zone...That leaves the Bigs open if not played right. If your Guards can get it to Smith, Franklin, Sabatino and Jones down low, you should cruise.  Watch that will be open...not much their to defend either. As far as RIT (my boys) we are tough to prepare for since I don't even know are schemes.... So just play your game and hope we don't hit any late shots that mean something..... ;) 

You never know. Remember last year they controlled their own destiny and ended up losing 5 of the last six. 4 of those games, including Baruch in the ECAC, were rematches where Stevens won the last time the teams met. The 5th lose was to Ithaca who beat them by 2 points at Ithaca in the first game. Their offense is still pretty predictable. The big difference this year is that their defense is much better, they are rebounding exceptionally well and they are shooting foul shots fairly well, 72% even with Smith's 57%.  Those are the 3 things you need to do at the end of a game to give yourself the best chance to win.   I am a little nervous about your RIT team gaining momentum like they did last year. To me they were playing the best basketball in the league at the end of last year.
#6
Region 3 men's basketball / Re: Empire 8
February 11, 2011, 09:33:32 AM
Quote from: Old Duck on February 11, 2011, 08:04:04 AM
Quote from: Bombers798891 on January 31, 2011, 04:13:48 PM
Quote from: sjfcards on January 31, 2011, 02:06:12 PM
Thanks magicman. I hope the other 3 teams like Pittsford.  :o :D

I wonder if there has ever been any thought about hosting the tournament at a neutral site like they do in DI. I know SUNYAC had a few conference tournaments in Utica at the Aud.

I like the home court idea. For one, it's a reward to the team who wins it. And, it usually means better attendance, since one fan base doesn't have to travel

The ECWC Championships are scheduled for the Ben Light Gymnasium on Feb. 26, the same day as the  E8 final. I would think that this is an all day and into the night event. What happens if Ithaca gets the #1 seed? Would the date of the final be changed, would the tournament be held at a lower seeded (#2?) gym or would they play the first round at Ithaca and the final somewhere else?

The womans tournament has the same issue.
#7
Region 3 men's basketball / Re: Empire 8
February 11, 2011, 08:04:04 AM
Quote from: Bombers798891 on January 31, 2011, 04:13:48 PM
Quote from: sjfcards on January 31, 2011, 02:06:12 PM
Thanks magicman. I hope the other 3 teams like Pittsford.  :o :D

I wonder if there has ever been any thought about hosting the tournament at a neutral site like they do in DI. I know SUNYAC had a few conference tournaments in Utica at the Aud.

I like the home court idea. For one, it's a reward to the team who wins it. And, it usually means better attendance, since one fan base doesn't have to travel

The ECWC Championships are scheduled for the Ben Light Gymnasium on Feb. 26, the same day as the  E8 final. I would think that this is an all day and into the night event. What happens if Ithaca gets the #1 seed? Would the date of the final be changed, would the tournament be held at a lower seeded (#2?) gym or would they play the first round at Ithaca and the final somewhere else?
#8
Region 3 men's basketball / Re: Empire 8
February 10, 2011, 03:22:40 PM
FROMAFAR, I thought that the "area referee vote" was a good line. Overall the officiating is good. You expect that the home team will usually get some of the close calls going their way. For me it is more that Stevens seems to be playing on a neutral or away court when they are playing in Hoboken. As for you coaching philosophy I agree with you 100%.
#9
Region 3 men's basketball / Re: Empire 8
February 08, 2011, 08:11:15 AM
Quote from: Ethelred the Unready on February 08, 2011, 08:04:27 AM
Quote from: FROMAFAR on February 08, 2011, 07:09:14 AM
I know I am missing something.... How does Fisher receive any votes in top 25??? OTHERS RECEIVING VOTES--Am I reading this wrong, OR did the area ref's vote ;D  I know I am either wrong as usual, or that's a mis-print... Makes no sense...BUT WHAT DO I KNOW ;)

Not that 2 votes mean all that much, but I agree.  I'd like to know the rationale for someone giving a 12-9 team a vote as one of the top 25 teams in the country


I go for the ref vote theory.
#10
Region 3 men's basketball / Re: Empire 8
January 27, 2011, 02:41:54 PM
Quote from: FROMAFAR on January 26, 2011, 12:52:33 PM
magic you were right on about the Ducks and Wick.  Bomber #$% as difficult as this is to say, you too are right... ::)Wick is a lot like IC on both ends... They throw up the 3's, and don't play too much D. I watched the Wick game last night and what surprised me was Stevens who I thought was the best defensive team in the league....played lazy on the defensive.. if someone was there let me know... I watched on computer and not a great picture.... 78 pts is a lot for Stevens and looked like Wicks bigs don't rebound well... Stevens crushed them on the boards.... But their bigs can shoot, and played away from hole for the most part on "O".


Stevens played very soft on defense in the first half and the HC bigs took advantage. Traveling the same day from NJ to NY may explain the some lack of intensity but the main problem was that they were giving to many clear looks at the basket when did their switching on defense.  They had the same problem with Ithaca but were able to adjust after the initial onslaught. Close game to the end with HC executing better then Stevens the last 5 minutes of the game. Stevens made more of an attempt then usual to get the ball inside at the end of the game but HC clogged up the lane well and Stevens had problems scoring inside and from the perimeter.

As far as the playoffs Stevens may have some advantage with their odd home and away conference schedule.  Right now they are 3 and 3 on the road and 2 and 0 at home. The 3 loses are by 4 (HC), 5 (IC) and 3 (RIT) points. The remaining conference schedule is 2 away and 6 at home, with the last 5 conference games at home.  But the home court at Stevens does not seem to be as friendly as some of the home courts in the Great White North.
#11
Region 3 men's basketball / Re: Empire 8
January 24, 2011, 08:53:11 AM
Quote from: Bombers798891 on January 22, 2011, 12:48:26 PM
Quote from: Old Duck on January 22, 2011, 11:05:52 AM
As a side note it seemed that more the 1 of his game high 18 rebounds were made with Ithaca players in the area working to get the rebound.

Clearly you don't understand sarcasm...



I was commenting on this statement.

"It is worth noting that he and smith are the only two players with a double double right now. Although I'm not sure how seriously I take Smith's rebounds. I like my rebounds to be grabbed while another guy is right there and you have to fight for them. Smith catches them in space..."

Don't take it personally, it's just that I have watched him for quite a few years and one thing he is not is soft in the rebounding area.
#12
Region 3 men's basketball / Re: Empire 8
January 22, 2011, 11:05:52 AM
Just some observations. Stevens big's shoot 17 for 30, compared to 13 for 42 for everyone else, Smith over 60% for the year yet they get no touches the last 2 min when the game is one the line. You guys include Smith in the POY talk but he is the 3rd or 4th option in their offensive plan, Why? As a side note it seemed that more the 1 of his game high 18 rebounds were made with Ithaca players in the area working to get the rebound.
#13
Region 3 men's basketball / Re: Empire 8
November 22, 2010, 03:39:41 PM
Under control Jones could help Stevens a lot. He played well Friday and Saturday. Like Smith he was out of the game at odd times on Saturday, on the bench when Stevens was struggling against the press in the second half. You are right that Stevens has the pieces to be in the mix. What the returning starters do has been talked about already. Franklin looks to be healthy and more mobile his senior year. McManamy had a good game on Saturday.  A good 6'5" outside shooter and he mixed it up inside for the first time Saturday night.   Sabatino and Skrelja will see a good number of minutes and should contribute.  Having Jones, Smith and Sabatino in the lineup at the same time gives Stevens a great offensive opportunity to run the ball if they chose.  Problem is their guards do not look up the floor very often.  All that being said the key to their season is if someone ( Thompson or Skrelja) can step up as the point guard. They need someone to run the offense and distribute the ball.  I am not that impressed with the win over Willaim Paterson. They looked out of sync the entire game. The only offense they generated was off the press in the second half. I thought that Baruch was a better team then WP. Stevens biggest test outside of the E8 will be Kean on 11/29.
#14
Region 3 men's basketball / Re: Empire 8
November 22, 2010, 01:17:39 PM
Hard for Smith to score or get involved when he is playing 15-20 feet from the basket at the top of the key in offense being run.  He was able to get a few assists from there. Also being out of the game for the last 6 or 7 minutes of each halve would cut down on his effectiveness. ???