N1-

For DPOTY consideration you make no mention of Liam Keaney of Bates. For my money he's a strong candidate.

NESCAC leader in 3 categories:
#1 in Solo Tackles
#1 in Sacks
#1 (tied) in TFL
He has been all over the field for Bates.

Also, despite missing time due to injury, LB Ryan Rozich is always a force and a perennial all NESCAC player who deserves consideration as well.

Just wanted throw these guys in the mix.

Quote from: nescac1 on October 10, 2026, 02:23:55 PMWow, yeah, FY or no, I'm surprised we have not seen Weiler before this point of the season.  Regardless of the strength of opponent, he is certainly the biggest arm talent Williams has had on the roster since at least 2010 (not saying a LOT, as the Ephs have generally gone with run-first QBs, but it ain't nothing, either).  Weiler was 9-18 for 189 in the half despite three drops by receivers and a pretty blatant uncalled PI.  He also was very impressive running the ball, very nimble for a big QB, ran for 8-53 (net is only 30 because of a huge loss on a bad snap that was in no way his fault).  The entire offensive approach is dramatically different (and a lot more fun to watch) as the Ephs have been spreading the field and abandoned the sluggish, conservative approach from the first three weeks.  They even scored on a clever reverse to Stahelski who's brought some badly needed speed to the offense. Weiler had 3-4 eye-popping plays, none more so than a 55 yard bomb on, I think, 3rd and 29 that he put right on the money to Stahelski; there is a zip on the ball when it leaves his hands that Eph fans haven't seen for quite some time. 

Overall a very impressive day for Eph FYs despite Jack Fabiano not playing (hopefully he is OK). FY tailback Aiden Clark looks good, he's like a bowling ball out there and feels like he's close to breaking a big one soon. Danny Montesano has done a nice job helping fill in for Ben Yedid, another key player who seems to be out, on the DL. Finn Ryan pops whenever he is on the field and is another guy who always seems close to making a game-changing play on defense, he's going to be heard from in a big moment this year.  And Will Machnik continues to do a nice job at CB. 

But the key guy in the class is obviously Weiler and his career could not have gotten off to a more impressive start. Please, please keep him upright, Ephs! 

Bates, I know they've been depleted by injuries this year, and they have definitely gone the wrong direction from last season. 

All good points N1, totally correct. Bates played very inspired Football on fumes last week with injuries to 5 or 6 of their best players in losing that heartbreaker to Tufts on homecoming last weekend. It was a loss, no excuses from Coynes desk. He's a stand up guy who is as mentally tough as any HCOF I've seen.....his day will come.

I arrived at the game today fearing Bates might be flat after an overachieving, empty the bucket effort last week....and they were..... I walked around the field, watched warmups closely, both sides. As the game started I saw a flat, emotionless group of Williams players and a sleepy crowd on the Eph home side to match the lethargic Bates brigade. For the Purple maybe it was mid term break or just not taking their opponent seriously but the Williams faithful seemed listless. For most of the first quarter it was the quietest football atmosphere I can remember. There was more excitement over at venerable Taconic when a guy made a 10 foot putt on the 18th to win a $5 Nassau.


But the Ephs came out and played well.
Kudos to the Purple for a fine effort today and wish them the best going forward. They are a better club than Amherst in all phases. Eph's kicker looks to have a D1 leg, really drives the ball.

Disagree with N1 a bit on the FY QB Weiler (only one game). I think you are overestimating his arm talent- he throws a nice ball and will have no aerial problems in the NESCAC but there's not a super big time arm there. However, his asset is great feet in the pocket. He will be unstoppable as a runner. His speed and anticipation is outstanding to go along with a good arm. He's going to be very good. His biggest asset will be his legs.

What amazes me is the embarrassment of riches The Ephs have with recruited Quarterbacks.- These guys were all recruited as QBS !!!!!

Owen Johansen- one of the best athletes in the league who hopefully get on the field again.
Brady Carroll- probably going to be an all NESCAC DB
Will Baker- probably going to be an all NESCAC DEFENSIVE LINEMAN !!!! added some weight and playing like a force.
Owen McHugh- after a phenomenal Freshman year is now a slot receiver and hopefully will get some looks as the season progresses.
Drew Renzella- Would have been a starter in multiple NESCAC programs- probably gonna hold a clipboard and maybe get some backup reps this year depending on injuries.
Drew Weiler- Maybe the heir apparent. Could Johansen go back to TE/HBack if Weiler continues to perform at today's level. Time will tell.

EMBARRASSMENT OF RICHES IN WILLYTOWN

On another note N1.....Wish there were some restaurants in town.

For 5 consecutive years some very good Wesleyan teams have posted an annual sub par effort in games they should have won. They have all occurred against teams in the lower half of the standings. For 4 consecutive years preceding this year they have dropped games against Bates, Bowdoin (twice) and Colby.
 
Trinity doesn't allow that to happen.

This years version occurred last week at Hamilton. However, the Cards were able to squeak this one out so I predict they will go into this years Trinity game undefeated.
A lot can happen and there much more Football to be played but this years game in Hartford shapes up as a potential classic. If things unfold as predicted it should be one for the ages with a playoff opportunity at stake.

VooDooDoc wabsh

 The facts of the case involving Hammer at Allegheny as stated are correct and a matter of public record.


I originally directed message to Owl in error

Quote from: The Third Division on October 04, 2026, 11:33:29 PMfor the record: (link removed)

Different case.

Yes, back to Football.

Another great report, right on money by NM. The reach of his corespondents is impressive and informative. In the early days of his NESCAC journalistic endeavor if there was no news his syndicate diligently worked to find and maybe create, some stories but it's different now. He is a very credible journalist with a committed and objective focus on Nescac Football. His group provides great reporting and content which I think we all enjoy.   

I'll clarify one thing on the Bowdoin situation- The majority in Brunswick feel that Hammer will be gone but let's see how everything plays out.

The firing of his predessor JB Wells was very controversial. It was a leverage play by a small group of well capitalized Bowdoin Football supporters who simply decided they wanted Coach Wells gone. Shaking in his boots cub Bowdoin AD Ryan succumbed to their wishes and Wells was fired. The funding of the Whittier Field renovations and construction of the new Football building adjacent to Whittier coincided with the firing of Wells. The Polar Alums leveraged their contribution on the Wells firing. Ryan played along a gave the Bowdoin trustees a wink. It was a financial win.

Now, Coach Hammer is on the hotseat. I don't know how many in Brunswick realize that AD Ryan fired Wells and then proceeded to hire Hammer. Yes BJ Hammer....the same guy who was the subject of a sexual harassment lawsuit brought by a member of the Allegheny Football team where the Hammer was Head Coach of Football prior to being recruited by AD Ryan for Bowdoin. The sexual harassment lawsuit was settled by Allegheny. It involved a kicker for the Allegheny Football team who was female. It was messy. The progression of the suit resulted in a judgement against Hammer and Allegheny which was settled for a sum exceeding 2,000,000.

Ryan evidently did not do a thorough background check on Hammer before bringing him to Brunswick. Of all places one would think Bowdoin would be the last place he might land given prior events.

It's puzzling how or why Ryan and the Bowdoin Athletic Department got the esteemed Bowdoin Administration embroiled in this series of transgressions. These developments in Bowdoin Athletics seemed totally inconsistent with the public identity of Bowdoin and their ideals as the #4 rated liberal arts college in the nation.

The difference in the firing of Wells and the potential firing of Hammer is pretty significant. Wells was fired clearly without cause. If Hammer is fired it will be with cause.

Since the cat is evidently now out of the bag can anyone disclose who the interim Head Coach is at Bowdoin.

Hearing from more than one source regarding controversy at Bowdoin surrounding a potential personnel issue relative to the coaching staff. I won't comment on rumors here on the board until the situation can be factually clarified. Rumor only at this point from what I can see.

Does anyone closer to the program know anything about developments and disclosures that may have been issued within the Bowdoin community?

Yeah, it's nice to have the option to do the Missouri thing, I get it. But when you're scouting and recruiting a kid like this you go all in. Sure he could get hurt but as an incoming prospect Hamilton got a potentially great one here with credentials that exceed any of the other RBs I've seen in this class- maybe the best all around RB prospect since Chance Brady at Tufts.

Quote from: Nescacman on September 21, 2026, 04:13:59 PM

Quote from: ItsATuftSituation on September 21, 2026, 12:31:01 PMWas in Medford to watch the Jumbos play Hamilton. Sad that Hamilton's stud first-year RB got hurt on the final play of the game. He was super dynamic, scored three times in the game. Hope he's okay but he was down for a long, long time.

Never like to hear about injuries. We hope he is OK.

Not sure if 7 carries for 33 yards (and 6 catches primarily on dump passes) warrants the term "stud" but he did score 3x and HCOF Murray was very high on Ace when we spoke to Coach on our season preview 9 Weeks NESCAC podcast. He certainly has one of the better names in the NESCAC so there is that... 

NM1-
This kid is a stud and will be heard from in this conference believe me- to put things in perspective his   track times in high school---- 100 meters: 10.6 ---indoor 55m: 6.51---- 110m hurdles outdoor: 14.12
I know Hamilton is not a track school but these High School times are better than Hamilton school records before he even shows up. This kid is Ladirus Drew on a 5'8" 188 pound frame. Not sure any other NESCAC teams even knew about this kid because he doesn't appear to have participated in any of the New England clinics where all the NESCAC teams beat each other up competing for camp participants. What a get for Murray.....like Kurzum. Hamilton fishes in a different recruiting pond and they have a lot of recruiting opportunities they have missed in past years, looks like they are turning things around.

Trin 8-1
Although I think you are trivializing the expenses a bit I'm with you 100%. However that's how they think on the Administrative side in Academia.
 
It doesn't matter how big endowments grow, when expenses are going up they get very frugal. Especially in an area where many NESCAC administrative types are not major advocates of growing helmet sports to begin with.

At Trinity, Tufts and Wes it's probably a lesser change beacuse those programs are already further advanced. Maybe 15-20 more players. Those programs already have 10 or 11 coaches while  much of the rest of the conference typically have an 8 man staff. At other schools it might create a need for 2 more coaches and 25 players.

I hope it happens but in my experience I've seen a real reluctance to increase funding for Football traditionally at all the schools.

Let hope the Presidents see that these changes are needed to compete on the national level.

I agree with DiCenzo and hope there will be changes, but It's all about dollars. Cost $1,500+ to outfit a football player. Cost is maybe a few hundred dollars to outfit Track Athletes.
Believe there actually are limits in the conference on Basketball, Hockey and Baseball rosters which are tacitly determined by the individual schools. I've seen kids get cut in these sports in the NESCAC.

Not sure about Lacrosse and other sports.

The only sport that really benefits from high roster numbers is football. Makes no sense to have 25 Basketball players (unless you are Grinnell) or 35 baseball players without formalized JV programs in those sports. It's counter productive to have large numbers in those sports but they tacitly do have roster limits.
 
I think these factors have given the decision makers some wiggle room on the issue for years and we haven't even mentioned the need for larger coaching staffs that comes with expanded rosters.

However, maybe decision makers will consider change as participation in the D3 Football playoff commences.

At the end of the day I see it primarily as a money issue at a time when even the Harvards of the world are whining about rising expenses.

Their you have it.

Dante Kelly of Wes is one guy who I'm anxious to see if he can produce again at an elite level. Im afraid the answer is yes. There is some interest in how he performs after he's been around the league once. DCs now will prepare differently. He was fantastic in his FY.