Quote from: emma17 on December 05, 2011, 04:50:37 PM
This is just like the week before NCC last year for me.  We all knew NCC was the team knocking on the "purple power" door and the week was filled with uncertainty.  So here we are again.  We've all known St. Thomas has been knocking at the door. 

On another note, does anybody know if the UWW administration does anything in particular to encourage attendance at the games?  With ESPN coming I can't imagine they wouldn't want a big crowd for obvious reasons.  If it were up to me, I'd make sure every professor read a bulletin to every class every day of the week encouraging attendance at the game. I'd make sure every dining hall and the common areas in the student union had "ESPN is Coming to Town" posters.   Heck, I'd put fliers on car windshields and send updates through the university email system.  I'm rambling, but you get the point.

Is this game actually on tv or just on-line through ESPN3?

Quote from: Kira & Jaxon's Dad on May 13, 2011, 11:37:01 AM
How does the Head Football Coach of a College Program with two daughters at home have time to play in an Amateur Baseball League?  I am an Assistant Football and Head Track Coach at the HS level and my wife would leave me if I joined a recreational league of ANY sport!    

I just had to comment on this because it brought back so many memories.  My father, very good baseball player, played on a recreational league back when I was a child.  My mother used to go to the games and take us children.  She enjoyed relaxing, watching the game and chatting with the other spectators.  Us kids had a great time playing with the other kids and watching our dads.  Afterwards there was usually ice cream on the way home, or perhaps a stop at a bar for a burger or a house for a potluck.  He played on the same team for several years, so there were a lot of friends made.  Good times.   Not every mother and children are sitting home waiting.  Every family is different.  
I am kind of amazed at the assumptions that were made here by several different posters.  Huh??

Quote from: 02 Warhawk on October 21, 2010, 12:05:45 PM

Quote from: Beyond Prime on October 21, 2010, 11:52:49 AM

Quote from: BoBo on October 21, 2010, 08:51:28 AM

Quote from: MasterJedi on October 20, 2010, 01:40:51 PM
... Personally I feel that River Falls will be a cupcake, though UWW can't take them lightly. ...

... helpless team - that might weigh on the mind of the coaching staff as the game progresses.  This game has the potential to get Dakota State ugly, but I see Whitewater taking steps in attempt to avoid doing that to another WIAC school if at all possible. ...

This is my first full football season of reading this site regularly. Before now, I checked it every once and a while.

On that note, I do find it interesting the choice of words that are used by what seems to be primarily WW fans. One thing that I would like to remind those people of is that it isn't a matter of if, it is a matter of time before the tide will change and there will be another team on top in the conference and the division. I just wonder how those people will react to those comments if they were made about the WW team?  

you're abosuletly correct...sooner or later another WIAC team will overtake UWW as the conference favorite. Just like La Crosse in the early 90s compared to now. I think us UWW fans are just enjoying the present rather than worrying about what's coming in the future.

Besides I'm sure those "choice of words" were already spoken about UWW in the past...they weren't exactly much of a threat when I was there.

We are just enjoying the ride while it lasts.  

I understand they are just words and I understand WW fans are on a roll and yes, enjoy it!  But I gotta say that Prime has a point.  It is certainly OK to dissect a teams performance, stats, whatever.  But at times I see posts saying "Where are all the other fans?".  Could this be a reason?  Yes, some teams are struggling.  But they deserve some respect, as do all the teams.   If this was a forum just for WW, I wouldn't think twice about it, enter at your own risk, but this is a WIAC forum.
I don't think anyone means harm, but I do think at times things could be worded a little better.   Sometimes I think the WW people start talking to each other and forget other team fans are tuning in.

IMHO.....for what it's worth....I'll never get an karma on this board!

Quote from: Beyond Prime on October 12, 2010, 03:37:02 PM

Quote from: fanofwiac on October 12, 2010, 02:18:12 PM

Quote from: danimal on October 12, 2010, 01:16:57 PM

Quote from: fanofwiac on October 12, 2010, 11:35:39 AM
Wondering if any of you would know the answer, or where to find it.  What are the rules for medical redshirt?  Is there a certain time limit when a player becomes ineligible?  For instance, a player would injure himself this last game and the season is half over, are they still eligible?  No reason...just curious.

We use 'redshirt' but I believe the NCAA refers to it as a Hardship Waiver.  Injury/illness must occur before the completion of the 1st half of the season.  The can get injured between the last game of the first half of the season and the next game kicking off the second half and still be eligible to apply for a Hardship.  After granted a Hardship by the conference or NCAA, the player can still practice/rehab without loosing a year (10 semesters or 15 quarters to start and finish playing).

Do a search for the NCAA Division III manual for exact info.

Thanks.  I found a form for medical hardship on wiacsports.com.  I figure that's the right place to look for WIAC?  But it was confusing.  It asks about participating in no more than 1/3 of the maximum number of games plus one.  Then in another place it asks about whether or not the injury occured in the first half of the year, plus one for tournament play        
Why the two different questions?
Are all applications granted if they fall during the first half, or are there other criteria involved?

If this is for a current player, I am sure the coach would help with the paperwork.

As I said, just out of curiosity.  But since Warhawkdad is curious also, this is the reason.
At the coffee shop this morning, the subject of season ending injuries was brought up.
CoffeeDrinker#1 says you can get a med redshirt.
Coffee Drinker#2 says no, you can't anymore, too many games played.
Coffee Drinker #3 says he is sure someone got a med redshirt later in the season. (Ithink Pat answered that question about # of games played)
Coffee Drinker #4 (me) says I'll find out...I bet I know some people who know.....
So. What I believe the correct answer is is that if a player had played all the games at this point, and was injured during the last game....he could not get a med red shirt.  But if he had not played in all the games and was injured last game, then he could.
Yes, our coffee group should probably tackle major issues like the economy, but this is so much better 

Quote from: danimal on October 12, 2010, 01:16:57 PM

Quote from: fanofwiac on October 12, 2010, 11:35:39 AM
Wondering if any of you would know the answer, or where to find it.  What are the rules for medical redshirt?  Is there a certain time limit when a player becomes ineligible?  For instance, a player would injure himself this last game and the season is half over, are they still eligible?  No reason...just curious.

We use 'redshirt' but I believe the NCAA refers to it as a Hardship Waiver.  Injury/illness must occur before the completion of the 1st half of the season.  The can get injured between the last game of the first half of the season and the next game kicking off the second half and still be eligible to apply for a Hardship.  After granted a Hardship by the conference or NCAA, the player can still practice/rehab without loosing a year (10 semesters or 15 quarters to start and finish playing).

Do a search for the NCAA Division III manual for exact info.

Thanks.  I found a form for medical hardship on wiacsports.com.  I figure that's the right place to look for WIAC?  But it was confusing.  It asks about participating in no more than 1/3 of the maximum number of games plus one.  Then in another place it asks about whether or not the injury occured in the first half of the year, plus one for tournament play        
Why the two different questions?
Are all applications granted if they fall during the first half, or are there other criteria involved?

Wondering if any of you would know the answer, or where to find it.  What are the rules for medical redshirt?  Is there a certain time limit when a player becomes ineligible?  For instance, a player would injure himself this last game and the season is half over, are they still eligible?  No reason...just curious.

Quote from: Beyond Prime on October 06, 2010, 04:45:35 PM
With the way that the playoff teams are selected, it makes sense why they may shy away from scheduling some teams. At the same time, that can be kind of short sighted. After all, if your only goal is to make the playoffs, then you are unlikely to win a championship.

So I guess I see it as what are your goals?

1) Schedule and play to make the playoffs?
2) Schedule and play to become the best and maybe win a championship?

I have never understood why non-conf play should count for the playoffs.  Simply doesn't make sense.  How can you count games where opponents vary so much (some play tough teams, some don't) and also those are the first games of the year.  Many teams greatly improve after those non-conf games, some teams don't.  Those are the trial games...the work the kinks out games.
Why take your team out of the playoffs right away by scheduling harder teams? While I think playing tougher teams may give you an edge, it isn't everything.  Just playing a tough team is no guarantee it will turn you into a winner.  And if your team loses those non-conf games, it could have a detrimental effect on the players.  It's understandable why coaches don't want to play WIAC teams.
I'm not a coach....just my two cents.  

Quote from: bleedpurple on September 28, 2010, 07:33:40 PM

Quote from: fanofwiac on September 27, 2010, 09:49:40 AM

What about LaCrosse???

I'm glad you asked, Fan!

Here is a closer look at UW-LaCrosse and their current state of affairs:

ENDANGERED SPECIES?

www.uwwfootball.blogspot.com

Thanks.  Very informative and well written, as usual.   And much appreciated.  And now that I understand the rivalry business.......you really enjoyed writing that, didn't you???

Quote from: BoBo on September 28, 2010, 11:40:20 AM
Why, you ask?

* UWL spent the good part of 35 or so years dominating the conference standings

* UWL/UWW is arguably the most heated rivalry in WIAC football, mainly because they are the two most successful programs - there is no love lost between these two - think of Texas/Texas A.M. or Michigan/OSU -  they rejoice when the other gets kicked in the mouth

* non conference season is over...now it's time to start playing your brothers (you know how brothers play?) - of course everybody wants conference teams to win every nc game; there's stumbling (see Oshkosh), but when you shoot yourself in the foot the way UWL has, IMHO, I don't have a great deal of sympathy for the way they have lost; on the other hand, Oshkosh has improved their standing in my view for the way they have been competitive with superior teams in defeat

* one for all...all for one? you are new around here - that only works if you're guarding the castle in France; come playoff time, you root for the conference, whether it's UWW in football, or Point in basketball, when one team remains in contention for a national championship for example; during conference season, I'm looking for the easiest way for my team to win a championship; half the teams are going to win, the other half lose - nothing anybody can do to change that

* d3football.com has labeled the WIAC the toughest D3 conference - nobody goes out pounding their chest over this because d3football does it for us

I see!  I did not know about the rivalry.  I was surprised...first time since I've been reading this board where anybody even hinted at not liking a particular team.  As I said...you always want YOUR team to win, of course, but this has been the most civil board I have ever been on and it took me by surprise.  Not to be critical...that was very mild...I certainly understand a rivalry!  Just didn't know it existed from your end, considering the team standings the last couple years.....

I would suspect if UWW ever had a down year, wouldn't be too many tears from other teams either. 

And like BoBo says, no one is crying a river for them. 


OOOOKKKKKK.......so why the comments about no one crying a river for them?  I kinda thought WIAC fans were all for one and one for all.....except when your team is playing, of course.    With everyone claiming bragging rights for the toughest conf in D3, I wouldn't think you would want anyone to stumble on a non-conf game.

Quote from: BoBo on September 27, 2010, 10:37:27 AM

Quote from: fanofwiac on September 27, 2010, 09:49:40 AM

What about LaCrosse???

From reading their game stories, the Eagles have a problem that has plagued them in all 3 losses - finishing. Once again this week, they gave up a lead then had a chance to tie or go ahead in the final two minutes of the fourth quarter but failed to score.

Finishing....but why the problem?   If you have an 18 point lead (at least I think that was the number) you shouldn't self destruct that much.  18 point lead usually leads to self-confidence, not self destruction.  Well.....usually.  Looking at the roster they seem to have a good number of seniors which means experienced players.  although I couldn't find the 2-deep to see who was actually starting.  EC has only 5 senior starters and lots of new faces and they have dug in and pulled out two wins.   If LaCrosse has the talent....then why?  Then we may be getting to chemistry/coaching/whatever and perhaps discussion of that sort is not allowed???  But I do believe LaX coaching staff is highly regarded.

413 - I don't know the situation with your son, but I hope every two months brings you a little more peace of mind.

What about LaCrosse???

Quote from: janesvilleflash on September 24, 2010, 02:31:45 PM
Oh, don't worry. He will.

I believe he already did.  When I was having problems navigating the forum when I first came on and asked very similar questions, I'm almost positive he answered.  Just scroll page thru the pages and you can find the answer.   

Quote from: Just Bill on September 24, 2010, 02:13:37 PM

Quote from: fanofwiac on September 24, 2010, 01:10:54 PM

Quote from: Just Bill on September 24, 2010, 12:54:47 PM
You just get the opposite problem on other boards.  You get three or four different threads all having the same discussion, usually involving the same people, so nothing is in one location.  Pick your poison. I like this way better.

And, you are free to create new threads. Anyone can do it.  The only rule in the Terms and Conditions is you can't have a thread to talk just about one team.

Hmmm....I can't seem to create a new thread in this forum.  I wonder if something is wrong with my setup or if I'm just an idiot when it comes to computers.....

Go to the West Region page and there should be a button for "New Topic". If you don't see it, it might be that it's not visible until you reach X number of posts.

I've used Wissports for many years too. On Wissports, everytime Brett Favre blows his nose, there's instantly three threads in favor of it and five threads opposed to it. The setup is fine, but I don't see it as being remarkably superior to this one or any other. 

Yep...but on the other hand...those of us who don't care about Brett Favre are forewarned and don't bother reading those.  Just as those of us who don't know about O'Grady may have skipped that conversation.
I guess its a moot point as this board is not going to change anyway.  And it's the only WIAC forum I can find right now, and the posters are knowledgeable, so I will continue to check in occasionally.  

Quote from: Just Bill on September 24, 2010, 12:54:47 PM
You just get the opposite problem on other boards.  You get three or four different threads all having the same discussion, usually involving the same people, so nothing is in one location.  Pick your poison. I like this way better.

And, you are free to create new threads. Anyone can do it.  The only rule in the Terms and Conditions is you can't have a thread to talk just about one team.

Hmmm....I can't seem to create a new thread in this forum.  I wonder if something is wrong with my setup or if I'm just an idiot when it comes to computers.....