Never thought this would be possible but I'm longing to be back at UWRF for the season opener.  My grad school doesn't even have football, nor is there much of anything for D3 football in Nebraska, so I guess I'll have to live vicariously through the WIAC radio broadcasts this fall.   


Good luck to everyone today and throughout the season. 

Quote from: cmsme on February 27, 2012, 01:59:25 PM
Excuse me, but do you have any advice on the best way to get from California (San Francisco) to Whitewater Wisconsin?
Should we fly into Chicago or Madison?
Is there a lot of snow to drive thru?

Snow is pretty minimal right now, although it is supposed to rain/snow most of the week and Madison is about a half hour closer.  Never been to the Madison airport though so I don't know what that will get you.

Quote from: larry_u on February 27, 2012, 01:35:58 PM

Quote from: GBMAN on February 27, 2012, 01:11:00 PM
I'm thinking way ahead here... But what would happen if UW-W & UW-RF both advanced and played each other..Where would that game be?

Depends on the other pod.  Whitworth and Virginina Weslyan would have the strongest arguments for hosting if they advanced.  Depends on whether the NCAA wants to pay for 2 flights or 3. If they decide on only 2 flights, then whoever was ranked higher in the last regional rankings between UWRF and UWW would most likely host.

I know they said we would see the final rankings this year, so I suposse we will know shortly.  But River Falls was 2-0 this week vs. Reg Rk Whitewater 0-1, plus a head-to-head win so I think it may be RF who gets to host if they go with 2 flights

Quote from: PointSpecial on February 17, 2012, 05:15:08 PM

Quote from: SilversSports on February 17, 2012, 04:44:34 PM

Quote from: Greek Tragedy on February 17, 2012, 03:54:25 PM
Thought I'd bring this forward.  I believe the NESCAC tourney starts tomorrow.

WIAC

Wednesday, Feb. 22
First Round
#1 Seed - Bye
#2 Seed - Bye
#6 Seed at #3 Seed - 7 p.m.
#5 Seed at #4 Seed - 7 p.m.

Friday, Feb. 24
Semifinals
Lowest Remaining Seed at #1 Seed - 7 p.m.
Highest Remaining Seed at #2 Seed - 7 p.m.

Sunday, Feb. 26
Championship (Will be broadcast tape-delay on FSWisconsin (March 18 - 5 p.m.) and FSNorth (March 24 - 3 p.m.)
Semifinal winners - 2 p.m.

I would not be surprised if listed times get changed in both Men's and Women's WIAC Tournament.  UWRF has the possibility to be hosting parts or all games of 4 tournaments that weekend and I would think they would get permission to switch game times around so that there isn't more than one game at the same time.

The men are Wed/Fri/Sun.  The women are Tue/Thur/Sat.

Yes I understand.  But UWRF could also be hosting an NCHA men's semifinal game and two NCHA women's quarterfinals games that weekend.

Quote from: Greek Tragedy on February 17, 2012, 03:54:25 PM
Thought I'd bring this forward.  I believe the NESCAC tourney starts tomorrow.

WIAC

Wednesday, Feb. 22
First Round
#1 Seed - Bye
#2 Seed - Bye
#6 Seed at #3 Seed - 7 p.m.
#5 Seed at #4 Seed - 7 p.m.

Friday, Feb. 24
Semifinals
Lowest Remaining Seed at #1 Seed - 7 p.m.
Highest Remaining Seed at #2 Seed - 7 p.m.

Sunday, Feb. 26
Championship (Will be broadcast tape-delay on FSWisconsin (March 18 - 5 p.m.) and FSNorth (March 24 - 3 p.m.)
Semifinal winners - 2 p.m.

I would not be surprised if listed times get changed in both Men's and Women's WIAC Tournament.  UWRF has the possibility to be hosting parts or all games of 4 tournaments that weekend and I would think they would get permission to switch game times around so that there isn't more than one game at the same time. 

Feb. 24 2004 exact attendance was 1,119.  So Karges should be big enough.  Also this might be the last time the Karges Center would have an opportunity to host the NCAA tournament as it is set to be demolished within the next few years with a new gym created out by the hockey arena and football stadium as part of a new Health and Human Performance and Athletic Complex. 

Also, UWRF gets hurt a little bit for next week's rankings with Puget Sound breaking into the ranks as the Falcons lost at PS in November. 

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You mean River Falls, not Lake Forest

Good win for River Falls last night as the Karges Center said forget #linsanity, its #Luesanity as So. Tess Lueders drops 18 off the bench to lead all scorers.  Good night all-around for the Falcons, limiting Robinson on the defensive end and getting four scorers in double digits, Lueders 18, Holst 15, T. Gregorich, 13, Dorhn 13.  Dorhn picked up her 8th double-double of the season and 21st of her career as well as moved into 10th all-time in the WIAC in career rebounds. 

Could be a shakeup coming next week in the West as SP and RF lost tonight and either WW or RF will lose for sure on Saturday. 

Quote from: PointSpecial on February 15, 2012, 10:56:35 PM
Actually, the top 3 seeds aren't all that tough.

A. WW wins, Point wins:
#1 Point (13-3)
#2 Whitewater (13-3)
#3 River Falls (12-4)

B. RF wins, Point wins:
#1 River Falls (13-3)
#2 Point (13-3)
#3 Whitewater (12-4)

C. WW wins Point loses  (I'm not sure about this one...)
#1 Whitewater (13-3)
#2 River Falls (12-4)
#3 Point (12-4)

D. RF wins, Point loses
#1 River Falls (13-3)
#2 Point (12-4)
#3 Whitewater (12-4)


A is clear.  Since Point swept Whitewater, SP would get the top seed if they're tied at the top.
B is also clear for a similar reason... RF would get the top seed by virtue of sweeping Point.
C is tougher... but I think that RF will just be ahead of Point due to sweeping them..
D should follow the same way that C does... Point swept WW so they'd get the higher seed.



Here are the tiebreak rules:

SEEDING

Teams will be seeded 1 through 6 based on the final regular season conference standings.  If necessary, the following tie-breaker criteria will be applied to determine entry into the tournament or to seed teams with identical records:

1.   Head-to-head competition between tied teams.

2.   Cumulative Won/Loss record vs. teams placed higher in the conference standings.

3.   Record vs. teams in conference standings in descending order (i.e., #1 seed, #2 seed).
   
[Note:  When comparing tied teams against positions lower in the standings which are also tied, those "lower tied positions" shall be considered as a "single position" for purposes of comparison.  Example:  Team A and Team B tied for second would compare against Team X and Team Y tied for sixth as follows: Team A would compare its combined record against both X and Y versus Team B's combined record against both X and Y.]

4.   Team with the best road record in conference games.

5.   Coin toss conducted by the WIAC commissioner.

[Note:  If two teams remain tied after a third or other teams are eliminated, the tiebreaker reverts to criteria No. 1.  For example, if four teams are tied with 4-2, 3-3, 3-3, 2-4 head -to-head records, the 4-2 receives highest seed and the 2-4 team the lowest seed in the grouping.  Since two teams remain tied at 3-3, we revert back to criteria #1 (head-to-head) between those two teams and then (if necessary) utilize the remaining criteria in order.]

The bracket will be re-seeded following the first round of play in order to match-up the highest remaining seed vs. the lowest remaining seed and the #2 remaining seed vs. the #3 remaining seed.



Here are the standings:

Whitewater 12-3
River Falls 12-3
Stevens Point 12-3
Superior 8-7
Platteville 8-8
La Crosse 7-8
Eau Claire 6-9
Stout 3-12
Oshkosh 0-15


Superior and Platteville are in for sure... I'm not sure what happens if LaX loses and EC wins. 

LaX and EC split their series, so it would go to the record against the top seeds.  From that point, it depends if RF wins or loses... if RF wins, then LaX would get the bid by virtue of LaX's victory tonight.  ... If WW wins... well, I guess LaX still gets the bid, because RF would be ahead of SP.

So, EC has been eliminated.

I'm also not sure what happens if LaX beats Superior...  That would have 3 teams at 8-8.



My head hurts and I'm not interested in figuring the rest out tonight... somebody else can do it if they'd like... from my perspective, Point just needs to beat EC Saturday and get a bye and a home game in the WIAC tournament... and then I'll be happy.

If La Crosse wins Saturday they get the #4 seed.  Superior wins all 4 possible scenarios for #5 seed and UWP is #6.

If LC loses and EC wins.  LC makes tourney if RF wins outright.  IF WW wins outright EC would be in by virtue of a split with Platteville.  Any other tie for the title would require EC to lose to SP giving LC the final spot.

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Quote from: SilversSports on February 13, 2012, 09:23:25 PM
I know we are talking about some of the smartest D3 BBall minds on this page.....so does anyone know an easy way to figure out OWP/OOWP, maybe a spreadsheet already created? 

Or would you be able to calculate UWRF and Carthage women for comparison?  I'm just curious how heavily Carthage's win over RF in Sin City is weighted by the NCAA.  RF has the W% and Reg Ranked Opp. category advantages and they are tied for common reg. opp.

Right now it would seem as though that loss may have RF sitting out of the tourney, but boy that seems awfully tough considering the venue (black back drop on one end and shooting into a wide open end in 2nd half/OT)

Obviously its how they fair against other regional teams in terms of numbers as well for C bids, but I'm just curious head-to-head.

NCAA has lots of stats and stuff that you can look thru. Here's the page with OWP/OOWP/SOS for the WOMEN (even though this is the men's WIAC pages).

http://web1.ncaa.org/champsel_new/exec/pdf/staticpdfrank?doWhat=publicrankings&sportCode=WBB&region=35&division=3

I know it is, there are just more posters here and thus I figured a better shot for answers!

I know we are talking about some of the smartest D3 BBall minds on this page.....so does anyone know an easy way to figure out OWP/OOWP, maybe a spreadsheet already created? 

Or would you be able to calculate UWRF and Carthage women for comparison?  I'm just curious how heavily Carthage's win over RF in Sin City is weighted by the NCAA.  RF has the W% and Reg Ranked Opp. category advantages and they are tied for common reg. opp.

Right now it would seem as though that loss may have RF sitting out of the tourney, but boy that seems awfully tough considering the venue (black back drop on one end and shooting into a wide open end in 2nd half/OT)

Obviously its how they fair against other regional teams in terms of numbers as well for C bids, but I'm just curious head-to-head.

Anyone by chance have a calculation for UWRF and Carthage's OWP/OOWP?

Never mind the bracket I was looking at was a link higher on the page from last year!