I agree Moncolfan.  I think if we played this game 10 times, Monmouth wins 7 of them.

I was a little worried that I was going to see Wartburg all over again.  Monmouth has a chance to put the game away, 1st and goal from the 5 or 10 and the back up QB goes into the game to run a "wildcat" like play.  I thought the reasoning against Wartburg was to put the ball in the best players hands.  Unless there was something going on with Tanney that I didn't know, every football person in the stadium probably would disagree with this call.  Backup QB fumbles and IWU takes over at the 5 yards line.  Monmouth was very lucky that the defense bailed them out.

That being said, I think that that the Monmouth play calling was great the rest of the game.  The Scots played a terrible first half and the offense really played with their hands around their neck in the first half.  Once they got the score to make it 17-7, I think they loosened up and really showed that they were the better team out there.  Good luck next week!  The Tommies are gonna be tough.  Get a win and really get some respect for this conference!

Gosh darn it.  I don't look at the board all week and fulbakdad goes bonkers.  First of all, you aren't on the doorstep of anything.  If the Scots even remotely show up and act like they want to win that game, its 75-14 at best.  Your halfback pass and option/underneath reverse ARE T.R.I.C.K. P.L.A.Y.S. designed to cause blown coverages.  That's what trick plays do, they try to cause others to blow their coverage.  LF is "decent" at best, evident by your record.

You are probably that dad that was yelling from the stands on 3rd down and long when you are running out of time, "Get a first down."
Your fans were all about your team, until Monmouth took the lead, then all I heard was complaining about bad decisions of the coach.

There is so much of difference in the ability to succeed in the two programs from the coaches, to the players, to the fans, to even the guy on the PA.  How unprofessional does that guy sound?!?!  I am mad at myself for even responding to your asinine comments, but sometime you just need to be told like it is.  Wake up and enjoy doing nothing when the playoffs roll around.  Kilts and Bagpipes out...

Oh...and by the way, take the $5 dollars that you charged as a "new rule" this year for attendance and spend it on a clue.

Quote from: SNC BACKER on October 12, 2011, 01:53:37 AM
Sncfballfan, you want a reaction? Get your facts straight,  especially about defensive coordinators at SNC. You have a right to your opinions, but don't let facts get in the way.

SNC Backer,

Don't let them get in the way of you either.  What did he get wrong?  I am not saying he is right, you just need to provide more evidence than the empty post above.

As far as IC getting in at one loss.  Their non-con win was over Milikin.  If they were to beat a mid-range team in a competitive conference, then I could see that.  They need to schedule that first game a little tougher and then it might happen.  Those one loss St. Norbert teams weren't getting in and they have consistently been at the top.  I am sorry to say, but MWC is only getting one team in this year.  If Norbert wins this weekend, its all but over in the MWC.

Well...looks like that outcome of the SNC/IC shows that the best TEAM on the field didn't win again.

Or maybe since MC beat the daylights out of IC, it really shows how poorly the offense played up in De Pere.

Carroll made a statement though this weekend.  Could be a tough game when MC goes to Carroll.

Moncolfan,

Well put about the game and both defenses.  I will say that I listened to Purtill's post game interview with the TV crew and he was a class act.  He congratulated both teams on a hard fought game.  Congratulated Monmouth numerous times on the win and had nothing but good things to say.

That game could have been 28-3 win for either team.  Monmouth stalled out their offense numerous times and I really think they should have pushed the ball downfield more.  When they went one back or trips on one side, they had one on one on the backside plenty of times.  I think that SNC played a lot more zone than Monmouth expected.

On the other side.  I was very impressed with SNC offense and their quarterback.  Made some smart plays and ran the offense well.  I think they should have ran the ball more because Monmouth had a lot of linebackers out and I think they could have really just run the ball for three or four yards every time.

I would say that whoever was going to come out of that game with a win was going to feel pretty lucky.  I am glad it was the Scots.  Good luck to SNC the rest of the year.  Its really too bad that Monmouth couldn't get a win in the first game of the year.  This game made have given the MWC an argument for two teams in the tourney.

Games for the Week

Beloit  24          Grinnell 14   
St. Norbert 14  Monmouth  35
Lawrence  7     Illinois College  42
Ripon  24         Knox 7       
Lake Forest    27  Carroll  30       

Maybe this is a question for Pat Coleman but wouldn't it be a nice addition to the D3 website if all they guys made predictions on the games.  You could get quite a tally going for the writers on their record of picking the right games.  I guess that is a lot of games to go through and a lot of work.  Or at least pick your regions games.  Would be nice to get the opinion of who they think will win each week.  Maybe its already out there and I just don't know where to find it.

Quote from: sncfballfan on September 29, 2011, 12:47:15 PM
Red duck, I love the optimism that you present and glad that you're not too down after coming up short year after year.  I love your assumption about never seeing the field as well considering my graduating class lost 1 conference game in 4 years at SNC.  Just stop and think about that for a minute red duck, you won less conference championships in the past 12 years than we had conference losses.  Like I stated earlier, it's been the SNC/MC show (will give Lake Forest their props as well) for the past 12 years so 2012 will be interesting.... 

Monmouth's preview of the clash: http://www.monmouthcollege.edu/athletics/news/story.aspx?Channel=%2fChannels%2fSports&WorkflowItemID=fdc70ed8-9899-4d54-9dfd-5084c388fcf4

SNCfbalfan, you think about it.  Your comment about another team not having as many conference championships as you have conference losses is ridiculous and doesn't even make sense.  Because that is true about Knox as well, St. Norbert won less conference championships as Knox has conference losses in that 12 year span.    What you were probably trying to get at, and is pretty impressive is that St. Norbert is the only one that doesn't have more losses then conference championships and that's at 9 conference championships with 8 conference losses in that span, but go back a few years more and that doesn't hold true either.  It does show you how impressive of a run St. Norbert has had though.

I didn't see any cheap shots by IC besides just a few late hitting, but that is to be expected when a team is playing hard.  What I did see what officials pretty much making up whatever they wanted.  The umpire called like three penalties in a row on a d-lineman for MC.  After the first one, he complained and I thought to my self, he is probably going to get another one.  Sure enough, the next play was a defensive holding on that lineman called by the Umpire.  I watched the whole play, there was nothing even close to a hold.  It was a roll out pass play and he was just trying to fight to get around the lineman.  Clean on both parties.  I think that the real issue is that possibly there was a reputation that Monmouth brought with them from last week.

What I didn't know was that slashing your throat is an automatic penalty.  That one caught me off guard.

Still wondering how many returning starters that St. Norbert is returning?  With a 46-2 ballgame last year, the Scots are going to have to play much better on both sides of the ball.  I know they are improved with Tanney back and many starters back, but does that make up 44 points?

How many returning defensive starters for SNC?

Should be a good game.  I think I am headed to this one.  Interested in seeing the new field.  Would be nice to see a few early scores for the Scots to get out to a big lead and make things a little less nerve racking for me, but I am guessing this one will come down to the fourth quarter. 

Any significant injuries for either side?

As a HS basketball coach myself, I give my teams a goal every year.  I think about what we should be able to hold the other team to and what we should be able to score a game.  For instance

Defense allows no more than 50, Offense scores more than 50.

Obviously, you aren't going to meet both goals every game.  If you did, well like you said, you would never lose.  But if you meet at least one of those goals every game, you should win a majority. If my team holds the other to 40 and we only score 45 we still win.  I know it seems obvious but it puts a team goal in to measurable numbers for the players.

As a defensive oriented coach, I play by the philosophy of if they don't score at all, you can't lose.  I set much lower goals.  If I have a high powered offense, my numbers are higher.  I think every coach goes into a game saying, if we score 35 points or we hold them to 20, we win.

That being said, you can't stress these as the end all and be all of the game because what if they give up 35 points in the first half, they might think, well, we didn't reach our goal, this one is over.  But when you meet those goals, you have to point them out.

Redhawk...I never said they should be ranked.  What I was asking was why did they lose ground in the "others receiving votes".  And without making Warthog mad, they played a game with the 10 ranked team that could have gone either way.  My question was answered and I agreed.  Moncolfan and Scottie both said that they don't deserved to be ranked.  So I don't get where you are going with that.

Is Ripon young this year?  Why so many close games?  They still seem to be running all over people.  Redzone issues?  Defense issues?

Quote from: grboob on September 22, 2011, 12:11:57 AM
Enough about Larry and the Scots.  What about IC, Norbert and Ripon.  I believe they are still undefeated in the MWC.

Come on --comments!!  How are their QB's doing?

IC looks to be better this year and with the game being at IC, Monmouth could have a test.  I think that it ends up with a Monmouth win, but IC could make it a good game for a while.  I am just wondering how any defense that gives up 30 points a game is going to be able to handle MC offense.  Seems like they are scoring some points themselves so it might be a question of can IC offense outpace the Monmouth offense.

Is the IC QB a freshman?  Does anyone know what happened to Blu Thru N Thru?  Will Rocky and Bullwinkle escape certain death?

Find out next episode called "Monmouth Bass" or "Boogie Woogie Blueboy"

Quote from: warthog on September 19, 2011, 05:31:04 PM

Quote from: Kilts and Bagpipes on September 19, 2011, 09:48:48 AM
Some one tell me how this works.  Last week, Monmouth beats Grinnell 61-20 and has 660 yards of total offense.  They get 24 top 25 votes.  This week, they hold a team that scored 62 points to a shutout.  A team that had 600 yards the week before to under 200.  Oh and by the way, they had 680 yards of offense this week.  And they get 10 votes.  They dropped by 14 votes? The only team that beat them, Wartburg, moves up 3 spots and is 3-0.  That game was pretty evenly fought and minus two big plays that accounted for most of Wartburgs passing offense, Monmouth wins that game.   If anybody has a reason why this drop of votes happened.  Then by all means, I will understand, but it doesn't make sense to me right now.  Pat, were there some bigs wins out there in DIII land that I am not aware of?

Were ifs and buts, candy and nuts, Christmas would last all year. 

I was in no way saying that MC should have beat Wartburg.  My point was that it was a pretty evenly matched game and that Monmouth had every opportunity to win that game.  I think the two teams are evenly matched and for Wartburg to be ranked 10 and Monmouth to be unranked is a pretty wide spread for two pretty close teams.  Not trying to take anything away from Wartburgs win.  Sorry if it looked that way.

Moncolfan...agreed.  It seemed a little chippy at the end.  As a coach myself, you want your kids to play hard all the time in football and if a late hit happens, it happens.  Bottom line, whatever you think is a great play on the DIII field, is made daily in the upper levels.  No your role and play the game.  That goes the same for Lawrence.  They were just as bad when it came to the trash talkin and now they are whining about Monmouth because they got beat so bad.  I was at the game a year ago and they wouldn't shut their mouths in the first half.  Dancing, celebrating after every play....whoopin it up like a girls softball team on the sideline.  I was watching the game on the internet last week and they acted the same way to Knox.

In the end, there is no need for trash talking in DIII football.  Go play the game, when you act like that, you are just being the meatball football stereotype.  Win with class and lose with class.