Quote from: wesleydad on December 15, 2012, 04:04:23 PM

Quote from: formerd3db on December 15, 2012, 03:03:27 PM
wesleydad:

Sounds like you had a great time.  Indeed, the Mount people are very gracious in their hospitality at the Stagg tailgaiting.  Just like you did, I, too, experienced that when I have attended the Stagg Bowl in the past.  Anyway, glad you made it home safe.

Also, just to pick your brain at bit, what do you think your Wesley team needs to do to get "over the hump" and win that "big game" in the future (taking off from one of your posts on one of the other boards.

Also, I, too, will join in with raiderpa in thanking Pat and all his staff for providing us another great year of D3fb.com and this forum to participate in.  Hard to believe it has been 12-13 years already.  Thank you.

formerd3db, having been to the last 7 staggs, i think it is that many, and talking to others who have seen wesley play the consensus seems to point to coaching.  the have played mount tough twice and have competed and beaten umhb a number of times.  they did not fair well against uww, but neither did anyone else except for mount.  the talent seems to be there, but for some reason when adjustments need to be made to make a difference they come out on the short end of them.  the offense seems to struggle when it comes to big games and i dont believe they have scored over 20 in any of the semis they have played in.  i understand that the d's are real good at that point, but so has wesley's offense been on more than 1 occasion. the mount folk have stated to me on several occasions that if the coaches switch teams wesley wins the game.  not suggesting that the coaches be replaced just that the mentality in the big game, mainly the second half of big games needs to improve.  just my 2 cents.

as a short timer(4 yrs w a kid in UMU program and ALL missions accomplished, thank god)  I watched some of your games in video and some in person, last year your team concerned me(i refuse to say scared) this year's version was dam good and WAY better than many playoff teams that had inflated opinions of themselves(a hint -are future doctors supposed to be big, flabby, slow,and out of shape with odd tactics) you guys didnt seem as good as last year(remember-comparing one of your teams against another-not all D3) I don't know that it can all be blamed on coaching. your group seems solid, who knows. I will say this-if UMU can come up with a decent O-line-with what I see(remember germany woods plays next year-the guy ahead of 2nd team D3 RB on heidelburg depth chart) and not miss driskill/deisul/scott on defense TOO much(dam some of the freshman kids HIT on defense) UMU makes another deep run(deep run being in final four games minimum. )
UMU will have some tune up games in conference to work out the kinks, with you all being independents not having that option(I know we would not have been overjoyed with TWO games with UMHB in a season-

Quote from: Jonny "Utes" Utah on December 15, 2012, 11:34:09 AM

Quote from: skunks_sidekick on December 14, 2012, 10:25:38 PM
Whining?  You have got to be kidding.

STU doesn't call a timeout earlier, which says "I concede".  LK goes into kneel down.  STU starts submarining at the snap. 

Yah...whatever. 

There is no whining.......STU gave it their best effort.  Mount won...as expected. 

End of story.....

Was that just one player on his own doing that though?  It seemed like the other players weren't doing that stuff.

I was watching closely with binoculars- #1  it looked like 2/3 were over zealous   #2 if it bugged the head coach he could have put a stop to it in those UGH time outs

Quote from: HScoach on December 12, 2012, 08:28:54 PM
Emma17 is right about the Mount O-line.  It's solid, but I wouldn't classify it as great.  Two of the starters were D-linemen last year that were moved to O this fall because of lack of production.  It's not a weak O-line, but I sure wouldn't say it's a strength of the team. 

Strengths:
1.  WR corps
2.  Overall defensive team speed
3.  QB

Solid:
1.  O-line play

Weaknesses/decent/wish it was better:
1.  RB's
2.  Defense lacks size up front

I know our personalities clash a bit but most of the time we are on same page,  would you consider moving o-line from solid to a strength based on of couple things?

1 when a time consuming drive or two was needed as in a cpl OAC games, the semi-final and final they produced(I know the offense put the defense in bad spots at times during the year, but was there a bigger "save" than when UMHB drove -aagainst a tired mount D)  to go ahead 35-28 (and I admit 5 turnovers made the "save" needed) and then two back breaking drives ensued

2. two of those lineman made first team - and our center made second team d3 all america, and the two guys "borrowed" from the defense did  very well considering they weren't 3 year starters like the other 3 were. They did a nice job in unfamiliar situations. Now if you wanna talk depth? I glad not many injuries this year- 1 substitute with game experience

and I think we both know the troubles on short yardage -lack of a true bruiser "wes Ryder" fullback and no QB sneak from the spread

add in breaking the scoring record, can the o-line get some extra credit-also after an article about the tommie's huge(same size as ours) o-line wearing out teams in second half? didnt look that way last night- I saw 2 time consuming drive put the game late in the game from our o-line

also consider upgrade "size  of D line"   they were not huge and I have no idea how they did it, but I never saw them man-handled for more than one quarter a game all season-  deisul  being a hybrid linebacker/DL made up for some size upfront too

Quote from: skunks_sidekick on December 14, 2012, 10:15:11 PM
Really Ypsi?  STU showed what a classless A-hole team they were with Caruso's end of the game "strategy". 

Really?  What a frickin' JOKE..........

WOW.....I am shocked.

2 things    I am not sure their coach's thing was TOTAL bull     and you have a PM       just back from red eye bus, bed time

Quote from: MUC80 on December 11, 2012, 05:43:32 PM

Quote from: hazzben on December 11, 2012, 01:10:52 PM

Quote from: raiderpa on December 11, 2012, 12:15:25 PM
First sighting on St Thomas board:
"Mount Union has not seen a defense like we have" 
to paraphrase:  UMHB defense not even close to being as good as the Tommies...
here we go

ARE YOU KIDDING ME???
I just wanted to win Friday, now I want to win and score 40...or 50...or 60

UMHB may be the better team. We'll get an idea on Friday. But it's not at all outlandish to claim UST has a better D than the Crusaders. And you are blatantly putting words in their mouths to claim they are saying UMHB is "not even close to being as good as the Tommies." No one has said that.

Rush D:
1. UMU - 46 yds/g
6. UMHB - 72 yds/g
7. UST - 76 yds/g

Pass D:
4. UMU - 133 yds/g
110. UST - 210 yds/g
225. UMHB - 262 yds/g

Pass Eff D:
2. UMU - 79
19. UST - 102
59. UMHB - 113

Total D:
1. UMU - 179 yds/g
16. UST - 278 yds/g
80. UMHB - 334 yds/g

Scoring D:
1. UMU - 8.6 ppg
11. UST - 14.1 ppg
65. UMHB - 20.4 ppg

3rd Down Pct:
3. UMU - 25.1%
6. UST - 27.4%
62. UMHB - 33.8%

Turnovers Gained: (maybe this is why they seem to have such a superior D  )
3. UMHB - 38
7. UST - 34
10. UMU - 33

Sacks:
18. UST - 44
38. UMHB - 40
42. UMU - 39

UMHB ranks ahead of UST in just two categories, and only marginally so (4 yds/g rushing; 4 TO's on the season). In every other category, UST has the edge. Several times by a good margin.

Now, if UST fans were claiming their D was superior to Mount's, I could see you getting your purple panties in a bunch. But I know of no credible UST or MIAC poster (i.e. not including the drivel that Purple Reign puts out there) who is claiming UST has the edge on D or as a team. They are confident, but not delusional. And they've earned that right by making the Stagg, a path that included several quality teams that UST dominated on D and made totally one dimensional.

It's entirely possible that Mount has not seen a D this year like UST's. It's also highly likely UST has not seen an offense or defense as good as Mounts. And that's why I can't wait for Friday. We get to see it proved on the field! We really do have a great, even if not perfect, system in place at the end of the day.

A topic that was discussed on this board a couple of weeks or so ago: Mount's offense faces the #1 defense in the country every week... in practice. Sure, it's not actual game conditions, but Coach Kehres doesn't have them "walk through" the plays. On every rep, the offense is working their butts off to try to beat a defense working just as hard. So when someone says "they have never faced a defense like ours", it should be modified with the qualifier: "outside of their own practices."

I HAVE heard from a very solid source that the contract practices are as rough as many of the games     (uh I am willing to readily admit the average practices wasnt as tough as the game with the texans obviously

Quote from: amonachino on December 05, 2012, 12:41:06 PM
When you  look back on Mount getting beat by whitewater the last 2 yrs. the reason is clear.  in 2011 2 fumbles losing 1, with no running game.  Add 2 int. and a QB that could not create a big play with his legs.  A final of 13-10.  In 2010 you have the same QB now with 4 int. and 5 fumbles losing 1 with no running game. Mount has upgraded the running game, still has to get better, and really improved the QB play.  Burke has 5 int in 13 games with 2 loss fumbles, Lattimore has 4 loss fumbles in 13 games. Burke has 8 games with 0 int. and never more then 1 in a game.  If Mount has no more then 1 turn over and can generate a running game of some merit, they will win.  If Lattimore fumbles again it may be his last start. He fumbles every 29 carries. Simon is 1 every 70 carries.  In big games over the years Mount has earned their stripes by winning the turn over stat. You do not win championships with sloppy play.  IMO Mount has handed over the keys to the opponent.  All the weakness you have as a team show up in big games when each team is very good.  Mount is very good, they need to keep playing as they have the whole yr. anything less will not do.   

you forgot the punting game  Mt punter had problems(much improved this year) and UWW had a guy kicking 50 yard BOMBS     I'm afraid to ask -do these guys have a great punter? Of course Denton may cause them to kick a few outta bounds, losing some yards in the process

Quote from: HScoach on December 03, 2012, 01:13:16 PM
Don't believe the rosters.   I can still remember Bridgewater's MLB that was listed at something like 6', 190 lbs.   When in reality he was a 6'3", 230 lb beast.   Lots of crazy games get played with roster heights & weights.   Some schools sandbag, some exaggerate to make it easier to garner post season awards, some simply list their freshman ht/wt all 4 years.

While I don't doubt that happens in a lot of cases..... in the comparison listed for  this game? I don't think Mount has played obvious games with their height/weights -and I have recorded a few UMHB games- from what I saw-I don't think they have played any of those games either-I admit it's harder to tell on video than it is looking/talking to the players after the game, but I  didnt see any noticeable discrepancies in UMHB line size vs roster info either. I will say they are bigger on the line than some of the teams mount has seen in some  previous games-not that it means much....  Hopkins had some big lineman but by the second quarter they were "hands on hips/winded" . There's no category in the programs for condtioning

Quote from: Brian Carroll on December 02, 2012, 02:51:47 PM
Another big win for the UW-O Titans. Keep it going and win another title for the WIAC.

agreed(except for the last part of your post)   
Oshkosh is what I call a "trick or treat" team- you guys can look uh not so good for a a few series , yet turn on the afterburners and walk away from a good team . I watched the first part of Bethel game and it was painful to watch, yet oshkosh wins, watched part of UWW game and y'all had a bad stretch yet won THAT one. Saw the Linfield video and that had flat spots.... yet you guys won them all. I enjoyed the 2 years we opened with oshkosh-the game at your place was my son's first varsity start and -for first few series he was so tight you couldn't have pulled a pin outta his butt with a tractor. No disrespect to  your semi-final opponent-I just hope Mount GETS to the stagg bowl-but I hope we play you for third time in three years. Your stadium was nice, fans were friendly-now, realize in those two games mount played you, oshkosh had the slight advantage of having played a game, while we "opened" with you. I just think it would be a good match up, would look good on a national stage and have the "  darn it, the same conference for 8 years" angle as an added storyline.........again, mount is going to have it's handsful this saturday as I am sure oshkosh will

Quote from: theaprof on December 02, 2012, 04:50:04 PM
70's was disinvited from the boards.  I still see him every week at the game though.  Stands near the south gate with Dean Taylor.

Thanks for the info, I will look him up next week-glad it wasn't health related

Quote from: HScoach on December 02, 2012, 11:48:37 AM

Quote from: purple on December 02, 2012, 11:41:52 AM
Wow. HS Coach has mentioned Kevin Burke in the same breath as Bill Borchert. I always pause a moment when I hear the name of The Great Number 7,and reflect on a great play he made,or game he won. High praise indeed.

Not saying Burke is equal to Bill yet, or that he'll end up being what Bill was, but he has the potential to get there.  What I am comfortable in saying is that his sophomore season is better than any other Mount QB's sophomore season.  Including Borchert's, Ballard's and Micheli's.  And it has nothing to do with the statistical numbers.  It's the field awareness, poise and leadership.  The kid is one cool customer.  And when he struggles, it usually isn't for more than a few series before the wrinkles are ironed out.  If he works his butt off, which I have no reason to believe he won't, the sky is the limit for Burke.

I have no real comparisons for Burke with past greats, except on the STO replays of old play off games, but I will tell you he has one skill that is #1 a lost art #2 doesn't get much media attention     and it is: Burke is GREAT at play fakes(I just watched Jay Cutler half azz 6 or7 in first half of bear game)  I mean Burke is exceptional at it...... It does take a few components to make it work real well- a credible running game, fast receivers. I'm sure the older ppl on here remember Jim Macmahon fron 1980's bears...... he had an average arm, but he really was great at the play fakes-of course he WAS stuffing the ball in walter payton's gut, but I can remember him turning a(for real) world class sprinter-and a receiver with  barely average hands(willie gault) into a true TD threat . His deal was to put ball deep in walter's breadbasket, pull ball out late(Walter sold the fake very well too), then the ol sunglasses "too cool for the room" dude would shuffle a little to his right to buy even more time and throw the ball as far as he could and Willie would run underneath it with the conerback 2/3 steps behind because CB had taken a step forward to "stop walter".  .
Btw I was in san diego when the  macmahon was playing there(1989?) and  blew his nose on one of the world's most obnoxious reporters-a nasty thing to do but "it was either that or I was going to punch him and I am tired of jails" was his reasoning

anway, point of this rambling post was to hopefully have a few of you that might not have been aware of this talent to watch how well Kevin does it, I think it might have been mentioned on one TV broadcast? But I noticed it in the Franklin game and he's gotten better as year went on- It's a little thing, certainly no stats for it.... no bonus clauses or helmet stickers, just a small thing that helps win games. In current NFL I would say peyton Manning is the best play fakes
One more question, and I am hoping I don't upset anyone, but whatever happened to "70'sraider" ? Health issues or Mogadore grandkids playing football- he didn't seem like the type to be run off a board that easily

and before I get bombarded with "Macmahon set records at BYU- he had a great arm" etc, if you watched him at BYU he had the play fake thing down THERE too. It slows down the pass rush, helps the running backs and the entire offense.

Quote from: bushman on December 01, 2012, 04:07:46 PM
Best not saying anything about Widener,   UMHB a tough nut to crack,  Stagg bowl next week in A town.

what an odd game. It seems the recent trend is for the offense has to start the first series laying some kind of  an egg, defense makes a stand , Offense then scores on a drive opponent makes cpl mistakes, off to the races. Other observations..... I think thats the  first time defense has given up points in the 3rd quarter all year  not that it matters.  11 PENALTIES vs 4? Those officials sure are not UMU fans-  and their QB would  have had a lot more pressure(and a lot fewer passing yards) on him if they would have called 1/2 of the obvious holds on Widner. I recordered the video feed and there was a lot of out and out jersy grabbing by widner on the Dline. 700+ yds on offense and some long(usually quick) drives by our offense, and the widner announcers were some strange strange uninformed men

Quote from: MUC80 on November 30, 2012, 01:51:02 PM
This is a question for Pat Coleman (I tried to comment on the Daily Dose, but I guess you have to have a separate login for that). You wrote "The Purple Raiders might not run well but they won't have to this week". I'm curious as to what you base that comment on. According to the NCAA Stats page, they are currently ranked 12th in the nation in rushing offense with a Yds per game average of 261.42. Even more impressive is 5.82 yards per rush. I wouldn't call that not running well. However, I've been to only one game this year (vs. CNU) so I can only go by what I read.

and not to answer a question directed at Pat but sometimes Mount does better in "no man's land" on a 2nd/3rd down and 7/8 yds to go than with 2/3 yards to go. Burke either lasers one to WRs or there will be a hole and a lineman or two sneaks down gets a linebacker and a RB rips off a long run. That sounds backasswards but it sure has happened a lot this year

Quote from: MUC80 on November 30, 2012, 01:51:02 PM
This is a question for Pat Coleman (I tried to comment on the Daily Dose, but I guess you have to have a separate login for that). You wrote "The Purple Raiders might not run well but they won't have to this week". I'm curious as to what you base that comment on. According to the NCAA Stats page, they are currently ranked 12th in the nation in rushing offense with a Yds per game average of 261.42. Even more impressive is 5.82 yards per rush. I wouldn't call that not running well. However, I've been to only one game this year (vs. CNU) so I can only go by what I read.

at first glance that does sound a little silly (like saying the offense was out of sync on a 22 degree windyass day and dropping 650 yards on a team- but I kinda felt that for first 10 minutes of the last game) but even though the numbers dont bear it out sometimes mount HAS had trouble getting tough yards(we sure miss number 35? fullback  from last year). When O-line is intact they do get a good solid push upfront but with the spread offense sometimes guys go way around o-line and get to our smallish running backs before they get started. Be GREAT to have a big fullback to get ALL the 3rd down 2yds to go that a horse would give us. That said a 50/50 run pass ratio and 260 yds a game is pretty good. I also think with THAT QB and all those good receivers that 3rd and 3 is a passing down more often than in the past few years(when they would dbl/triple cecil and spy on kyle miller- but I understand his comment. all that being said this year's offense seems better than the last 2 years versions and fun to watch...... lotta big plays, lotta depth/speed at WR and RB and o-line has done a good job

Quote from: amonachino on November 25, 2012, 01:36:30 PM
If that rumor is true, has anyone thought how Wesley feels right now??

I'm thinking that the rumor is total BS      heck NCAA doesnt announce the NEXT home game till sunday night much less 2 weeks ahead of time

Quote from: Dr. Acula on November 24, 2012, 09:08:57 PM

Quote from: rscl70 on November 24, 2012, 07:15:32 PM
My impression of Johns Hopkins:  Big and Sloooooow.

Now I realize, after looking at the stats, that this statement is going to seem totally ridiculous, but I thought Mount's offense looked a little out of synch today.  Defense was great as always.

Home for turkey so I decided to brave the elements and go today.  I agree, the offense was out of synch for the majority of the 1Q IMO.  Possibly just Burke and his boys getting used to throwing/catching a frozen rock. 

To me the biggest demonstration of what several have mentioned was when Collins caught the ball running across the field toward the pressbox and literally just took a right turn and sprinted by JHU on his way to end zone again.  You could tell just from that play that the Jays just didn't have the speed to keep up w/ Collins et al. 

I thought Orteca played really well at DT.  He was in the backfield making plays, batting down passes and just generally causing problems.  Very good game from Frank today.  He and Fechko are a nice 1-2 on the interior.

Great to see Tate back at tackle too.  I'm not smart enough to know if he played well or not so I just like that he was out there and didn't seem to be limping or anything.

Burke took a bit to adjust, but as usual settled in and had a great game.  I often have to remind myself that he's only a soph because my expectations just keep rising each week.  It's a great feeling to know he's going to be at the controls the next 2 yrs.

Tip of the cap to I. Scott today.  I have always loved the way he plays.  Smallest dude on the field and he will absolutely pop you.  Did it a couple times today.  Once on an overthrown swing pass to the RB he cracked him and I think the JHU sideline was a little surprised #10 put a shoulder in him like that.  He makes mistakes just like any other CB, but I'll always take a tough kid like that who's not afraid to hit you even if you have 40 lbs on him.  It's an attitude and Scott has it. 

I stayed to the end because I always like to watch the back ups.  I continue to be impressed with Minnich when he gets carries.  He seems to have a knack for falling forward and making sure he gets positive yardage each time.  Also rarely seems to be brought down by one guy.  Also impressed with Jack Nicholls.  He's like their Welker.  Smaller kid who is just quick in tight places and makes people miss.  And he showed again today if he gets free he can run a little too.  Defensively I liked how Kocheff stuck his nose in there all the time.  I honestly thought he was a backup LB until I looked at the roster to see who it was.
 
Finally, I liked that with the offense not clicking early it was Dieuseul and Driskill stepping up to make big plays and swing momentum.  We're spoiled with those 2 anchoring the D.  Just big time players roaming sideline to sideline.

Doc, antonio had a lil rust on him BUT he will be fine going forward

I agree that the Minnich kid is a future star,  I LOVE his quickness, and he sure does well up during "garbage time"   -he's usually  playing with third team and still gets a lot of yards

AND Isiah Scott is one of my favorites on defense, he really is a small dude but he makes plays and #1 aint afraid to stick his nose in on any play and #2 he sure can jump(hence his ability to cover the taller receievers)