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Quote from: Colby Hoops on December 17, 2010, 01:41:21 PM
I think that the discrepancy is that NERR includes prep schools and all private school leagues, while the other rankings seem to be just public and catholic schools.  That significantly narrows the talent pool as almost all of the best New England players play in the prep school leagues.  So ranking third on that list means hes very good, but likely more of an ivy league/nescac borderline player, rather than a high-level D-1 talent.

be careful how you interpret rankings on NERR, it is a business.

Yeah, but when NERR's top 20 are all going to D1's and the other rankings have players in the top 3 going d3, that also tells you something.

what other rankings??

Quote from: Colby Hoops on December 17, 2010, 01:41:21 PM
I think that the discrepancy is that NERR includes prep schools and all private school leagues, while the other rankings seem to be just public and catholic schools.  That significantly narrows the talent pool as almost all of the best New England players play in the prep school leagues.  So ranking third on that list means hes very good, but likely more of an ivy league/nescac borderline player, rather than a high-level D-1 talent.

be careful how you interpret rankings on NERR, it is a business.

Quote from: Frank Rossi on November 22, 2010, 12:38:02 PM
Here's just a random thought.  David believes that 4 or 5 NEFC teams could've beaten Cortland Saturday.  Interesting -- why didn't those 4 or 5 teams beat Maine Maritime or Endicott to get to the Playoff in the first place?  Much like LL watchers can't really argue about the idea that SLU was the best of the bunch in the LL this season for a variety of reasons, how can someone who must be an Endicott fan (since it would be strange if they made the trip to South/Central New York for just general NEFC fan reasons) basically make the claim that their team was only a mid-pack team in the NEFC this year -- even though they won the conference?!

In my judgment, no NEFC team could have or would have beaten Cortland this year unless Cortland suffered multiple injuries and/or other major problems during or just before the game.

David, any reason you believe your conference champion wasn't really the cream of the conference?!

Endicott was the best team in the NEFC this year. From what I saw of Cortland on Saturday, WNEC, Curry, Framingham, Salve and Maine Maritime would have all been competitive games. The NEFC is getting tougher.

EC lost a close game to RPI, who inturn beat Alfred, who beat Ithaca who was barely beaten by Cortland.

CS gave up 35 points to Endicott, they had 3 turnovers 2 for TDs and a blocked punt. Just think the game was closer than the Cortland faithful here believe. A few calls the other way and maybe the outcome would have been different. I thought Pitcher went over the LOS on his TD pass, I thought the "defenseless receiver call was incorrect and I thought that the first on-sides kick was recovered by EC. The CS player went in front of the 10 yard limit to field the ball which he mishandled before getting hit and that penalty really hurt.  All those calls ended with touchdowns for CS.

However CS did what they needed to do, but I bet they were suprised it was that tough of a game. I thought once the Cortland RB took himself out of the game that Endicott had a chance. They will be back next year 20 of 22 starters returninfg and now they won't be as happy to just get there. Either way, it was a fun game to watch, though I was suprised even with CS giving out free tickets there may have been more Endicott people there.

Quote from: DanPadavona on November 21, 2010, 09:32:23 PM
What is it with the NEFC?  DP remembers 2 years ago some Plymouth State fan claiming that Cortland was "lucky" to beat them, even though the score was 31-14.  Same poster swore we had no chance against Curry, which we then beat 42-0.  

Just some quick factoids for the delirious:

The same SUNY Maritime which lost 60-0 to Alfred, beat 4-3 NEFC "power" Mass Maritime this season
Another better than average NEFC team, 4-3 Westfield State, lost 34-0 to Montclair
The NEFC is now 2-13 all-time in NCAA Playoff Competition.  The NJAC is 23-14.  Yes, that means the NEFC would need to win 21 of its next 22 NCAA playoff games just to equal the NJAC's record.

There is no NEFC team capable of beating any of the top 5 teams in the NJAC in 2010.  Not one.  Framingham would rank somewhere between 6th and 9th in the NJAC.  So while I respect your right to compete as a Pool A selection, and I appreciate your enthusiasm, you are absolutely delirious if you think your NEFC conference champion could win any other conference in D3 other than the ECFC.  I know that sounds harsh, but it's blatantly obvious to every other fan in D3 outside the NEFC.

I think you're refering to Maine Maritime. Don't sell the NEFC short, there were some quality teams in that league, like WNEC, Maine Maritime, Framingham St, and Curry, never said they would win other conferences. I'm pretty sure Endicott drove 7 hours on the bus each way for that game. They represented their conference well in a well played game by both teams. Move on, you have a big game this week against another quality opponent.

Buffalo State, William Patterson, Brockport State, Morrisville State and Western CT with a combined record of 12-38 doesn't make thier defense formidable.

Giving up 35 to a good Endicott team is not a bad thing but several NEFC teams like Maine Maritime, Curry, WNEC, Salve Regina and Framingham State are all teams that could score on Cortland.

They earned the home field and as they took advantage of it as they should have.

However, just thought that the referees were inconsistant whicj was dissapointing.

Quote from: DanPadavona on November 20, 2010, 09:43:03 PM

Quote from: cstate19 on November 20, 2010, 08:40:59 PM
Congrats goes to Cortland.  Cach Mac is putting one heck of a program together. 

I agree.  Have you seen some of the freshmen and sophomores on CState?  It's unreal.  This is not nearly our best team, the best is yet to come.

Was at the EC Cortland game. 4 or 5 of the NEFC teams could have won that game. At a neutral sight with neutral refs there would be a different out come. The overweight "U" seemed to always be in the way, and the older man "H" missed at least 3 big calls that he later apologized to the EC coaching staff for missing.

The daunting defense feasted on bottom feeders like 0-10 WConn., not impressed.