Quote from: Wydown Blvd. on February 06, 2011, 01:46:40 PM

Quote from: NYCHOOPER on February 06, 2011, 01:38:11 PM
I stand firm in my proclamation that the NYU Men's Basketball coaching staff is the worst in the country. When a team consistently goes down 15-20 points to their opponent and then furiously comes back to lose by 6-8 points, all the blame is on the coach. Anyone that disagrees with me doesn't realize the importance of a head coach.

I watched the Emory/NYU, WUSTL/NYU, and the Brandeis/NYU matchups. While you continuously harp on the coaching staff, imho I think you also overestimated the capability of the players.

You're definitely entitled to that opinion... That being said explain to me how a school in the middle of New York City doesn't get better talent? Whose fault is that?

I stand firm in my proclamation that the NYU Men's Basketball coaching staff is the worst in the country. When a team consistently goes down 15-20 points to their opponent and then furiously comes back to lose by 6-8 points, all the blame is on the coach. Anyone that disagrees with me doesn't realize the importance of a head coach.

emory's video guys are hysterically awful

Quote from: Pat Coleman on January 23, 2011, 02:06:01 PM

Quote from: hugenerd on January 23, 2011, 12:22:50 PM
Sounds good, but you have to remember that Nesci has made the NCAAs 7 times, even if they were not that recent. He has been coaching NYU for 23 years, has nearly 400 wins, so he deserves some respect. 

Once upon a time, eight teams from a region got tournament bids, regardless of the size of the region. I suspect some of those teams didn't have records any better than teams NYU has had in recent years.

Just saying that devoid of context, "NCAA Tournament bids" could be a misleading stat.

and not to mention that Nesci schedules a cupcake non conference schedule every year. 11-0 against the University of I Just Learned How To Play Basketball isn't impressing me.

Quote from: hugenerd on January 23, 2011, 12:22:50 PM
Sounds good, but you have to remember that Nesci has made the NCAAs 7 times, even if they were not that recent. He has been coaching NYU for 23 years, has nearly 400 wins, so he deserves some respect. 

NYU is playing well today and Chicago is missing some bunnies and jumpers...

Dorman needs to play more, Wein alot less... I like the three guard wrinkle that Nesci threw in just now to close out the game. I'd love to see a starting lineup of GLAVAN, BECKER, DORMAN, POLAN, STEIN. I think Stockmal, Yaffe and Wein would benefit from coming off the bench and would shakeup the look of the game completely. I also think the kid Karch could have a nice career over the next 2 years.

Quote from: hugenerd on January 23, 2011, 12:46:51 AM
Former NYU PF Jason Boone is playing in the German Bundesliga for Goettingen.  They are currently 8th in the league and Boone is playing about 20 mpg.

Also, NYCHOOPER, calm down. I am sure every coach is going to have people that dont agree with him.  I guess I am failing to see how Yaffe throwing the ball out of bounds is Nesci's fault.  Did Nesci tell Yaffe to throw it out of bounds?  Did he fake taking a time out so Yaffe would get confused and throw the ball out of bounds? Maybe he wanted his team to advance the ball to halfcourt before taking a timeout?  Could it be the SID kicked the door simply because of the bad turnover and not because of anything to do with Nesci?

By the way, I just checked the box score and Kyle Stockmal had 0 turnovers in the last 4 minutes, he did have two points and an assist though, but I am sure its easy to confuse those with turnovers when you dont know what you're talking about.  Further, Glavan may have been sitting the final four minutes because he already had 6 turnovers in 23 minutes of action (0.5 A/TO), thats almost half the teams turnovers for the game (they had 13 total), while Stockmal only had 3 in 33 minutes of play (1.0 A/TO).  Stockmal only had 1 turnover in the 2nd half, at the 8:26 mark.  But you are probably right, you dont need to look at the numbers when you come in with the assumption that everything Nesci does is wrong.  Never let the truth get in the way of a good story is what I always say!

Cleary you (and possibly dblock) are disgruntled former players or friends/family of players.  I dont have as much a problem with dblock, because he at least didnt make a bunch of stuff up. These rants do nothing but hurt your own credibility.  I dont think the NYU SID is coming onto these boards looking for advice on whether to retain Coach Nesci, so I would recommend one of two things: a) save your energy and dont write long rants about things that arent true, or b) if you are trying to make a point, make sure that there are some actual facts that backup your rant. The only thing really clear to me from your posts is that you don't like Coach Nesci, what does not come across is that you know anything about basketball.

HN-

I'm not a former player or family member though i think dblock is... I think waking up yesterday with a mean hangover and reading the game recap had me in a bad mood.

Its hard to understand my anger unless you have watched as many games as I have. Nesci should have called a time out because he had a foward pushing the ball with 15 seconds to go. It was one of those situations where 99% of coaches call a timeout and run a goto set that they know will give em a bucket.

As far as Glavan vs Stockmal, I don't care what the box says, I was there and Glavan had no more then 4 turnovers and they came on ticky tack plays. Reading the stats and not knowing the personal doesn't tell the true story. I wish there was a way I could send you some game film because Stockmal can't be in the game over Glavan needing a bucket especially when Coach Edwards had NYU's shooters on superlock during the last couple minutes.

I swear on my family that while I seem jaded that I am 100% justified and I vent only due to the love for the game of Basketball and my alma matter. I dont believe that it's a coincidence that NYU loses and loses and loses. You mentioned Jason Boone who I have been told was a man amongst boys on the court and that he had a teammate who played pro in Ireland, one who plays at Rucker Park (EBC) and other NYC semi-pro tourneys all year round yet they didn't make the NCAAs? I'm sorry but I'm not here to suck up to a coach who doesn't get victories.

Watch today's game, I will be streaming it. I'll give you my honest reaction to the game.

Quote from: dblock on January 22, 2011, 01:46:34 PM
Wash U looks like a shadow of its former self. NYU should have won that game last night and they didn't even have Richie Polan playing. I think its utterly ridiculous that NYU isn't 15-0. They've lost every game by one or two possessions. Simply awful.

I happened to catch both the Women's and Men's game at Coles yesterday and I have never seen a basketball program look so lost. The Womens team has gone down hill since coach Janice Quinn left and it's evident cause they haven't had a decent team since 2009. The Men's team is the real saddening team. I have no doubt in my mind that NYU is the most talented team in the UAA. Joe Nesci shouldn't be allowed to coach CYO basketball. The Bears scored on two plays yesterday. When NYU was in a man defense they ran their sing... the same swing they've been running for YEARS, and Spencer Gay consistently got WIDE OPEN layups. Then Nesci does the inexplainable and goes zone against Wash and then it was just a shooting exhibition for the bears. I've never in my life seen a coach who lacks any understanding of the basketball game. Nesci literally starts every game with two of his best players on the bench...Not only are they two of the best players, they are his Senior Captains. Derek Becker is the BEST defender on NYU and Richie Polan is the best scorer and rebounder. In what sport do you start off with the best players on the bench? Instead of playing those two, he's got sophomores who don't play defense and only launch threes starting. Then you add in the momentum killing timeouts, the incessant playcalling on every possesion (regardless of the fact that EVERY UAA TEAM KNOWS NYU's OFFENSE BETTER THEN THEY DO) and the fact that nobody on his team or in the organization respect's him and you get the "Joe Nesci Collegiate Basketball Strategy". Hopefully his days are numbered and I think this is definitely possible due to something I saw during the game yesterday. 20 or so seconds left and Wash is shooting a 1 and 1 up a bucket. On the bench is Senior Captain and PG DJ Glavan ( sidebar- Nesci had him on the bench for the last 4 minutes in a 2 point game as Sophomore Guard Kyle Stockmal was turning over the bal constantly and not playing any defense at all) Wash misses the FT and NYU grabs a board. Nesci doesn't call a time out and Soph Forward Carl Yaffe throws the ball right out of bounds. The NYU Athletic Director who stands in the same spot every game and doesn't show any emotion, turns around and kicks this huge metal door and sends a huge loud noise flying through the gym. Between the faces of disgust displayed by the players, parents and NYU fans you'd think someone would say something to Nesci.   

Pardon my rant, but Im so passionate about basketball that it kills me to see my alma matter suffer with a head coach who seems to take his opportunity for granted. There's no doubt in my mind that the right coach could make NYU a powerhouse. Great city, great school... no reason that NYU should be synonymous with underachievers.

anyone watch the case v nyu game?

Quote from: gordonmann on January 11, 2011, 10:55:25 AM
It's also interesting that two of the new Top 25 teams arguably got there on the strength of a loss.  Ferrum went 2-1 last week but the wins were over Averett (now 2-13) and Methodist (now 4-9).  The loss was by six to ranked Eastern Mennonite.  And the Panthers jumped from 29 votes to 73 votes and into the poll.

NYU enters the poll at No. 25 after making a similar jump (28 votes last week, 69 this one).  The Violets were 1-1 with a win over Swarthmore (now 4-9) and the well publicized loss to Brandeis at the buzzer.

Who says there's no such thing as a good loss?

watching that nyu v brandeis game made me think that the violets are 10 to 15 points better then the judges . bad coaching and terrible execution in the 2nd half let Brandeis sneak away with one.

Quote from: WUH on January 08, 2011, 05:13:09 PM
Brandeis defeats NYU 61-59.

Judges were down 1 with 2.1 seconds left and won on a curling fadeaway 3. Heartbreaker for NYU who were in control till the last two or three minutes.

When a team consistently loses in the last 2 minutes of a game something must be done.

It's unacceptable. I've seen it year after year after year.

UAA refs are so biased for the hometeam...except for in NYC where they are just terrible in general.

Quote from: GoGreenGoRed on December 15, 2010, 07:40:16 AM
How much do you think the departure of Tim Whittle has affected Wash U? Though the team was good last year, it definitely wasn't as consistent as before. This is definitely a rebuilding year no matter how you cut it, but I wonder if Whittle leaving has had a bigger impact than initially meets the eye.

Former Wash players have told me that while Coach Edwards is a fantastic coach and theres not another coach in the world they'd rather play for... It was Whittle who was the brain trust the last couple of years.

Quote from: hugenerd on December 09, 2010, 12:15:21 AM

Quote from: Wydown Blvd. on December 05, 2010, 08:41:46 PM
Emory men, NYU men, and Brandeis are off to a hot start and all undefeated... Is it a product of weak scheduling or establishing a turn of the tables in the UAA?

Emory has some impressive wins.  NYU always schedules weak (opponents are a combined 10-29, they have no wins over teams with a current winning record).  Brandeis is young and inconsistent, but they have gotten it done so far.  They will have plenty of time to get the young guys more comfortable in the system, as they now have a month off until January.

Come on man... Nesci has to get his wins up so he can forgo getting fired after another year of mediocrity. It's a shame that a good university in the middle of NYC allows such a sham of a coaching staff to walk onto that court every weekend. Too bad the current AD won't get rid of Nesci and start a younger more in-tune regime.

And will someone explain to me why Richie Polan is coming off the bench for the violets? The kid cannot be stopped. He's averaging 17 and 10.5. He should be getting 35 minutes a game.

I'm really interested to see how NYU plays this year. In my opinion they have two of the most athletic guards in the UAA and an unstoppable big in Richie Polan. I wonder if Joe Nesci has them still running the princeton offense that nobody in the UAA is fooled by. NYU would thrive in a hybrid offense consisting of the dribble drive offense, some quality ball screen set plays and the Princeton about 40% of the time. UAA teams don't even exert themselves on defense against NYU, they guard the entry passes and beat players to the spot.  Hopefully Nesci sees an opportunity in a weak UAA year and let's his team play. Would also help them if they played some higher intensity defense, NYU has fallen a long way defensively since they lead D3 in Team Defense stats in 05-06. It's time for NYU to shed the cloak of mediocrity and try and be a great team. Nesci hasn't taken a NYU team to the tourney in how long??? There's a desperate need to change the culture at the Jerome S Coles Sportscenter.