Quote from: smedindy on February 11, 2012, 04:34:01 PM
Wabash cruises to a 79-51 win over Kenyon. Andy Walsh is nails again with 20 off the bench. Aaron Zinnerman and Pete Nicksic (filling in for Nick Curosh) had 14 and Derek Bailey added 13.

Ikenna Nwadibia led Kenyon with 17.

Not a game changer to tonight's game.....but a Top 10 candidate for d3hoops for this evening.  Aaron Zinnerman with shot clock at zippo....

http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?v=vCERV2JqL20

Quote from: smedindy on February 08, 2012, 10:15:56 PM
Kenyon beat Oberlin so they're 4-9, 10-12 and Oberlin's  1-12, 6-16.

So NCAC site is wrong, has this score reversed.

Quote from: GoRed on January 28, 2012, 09:52:40 PM

Quote from: BigRedFan on January 28, 2012, 07:19:17 PM
Congrats to the Big Red on a big road win!!!!!
Coach G has the Big Red peaking at the right time.

I am not sure you want to face the Big Red in round one of the tournament!!!!!!
They may just surprise ya!!

Way too go BIG RED!!!

BRF - please have your doctor send me the same prescription he wrote for you.  I could use the inspiration. 

The Denison offense still is far from peaking because the Ghiloni system is still very unproductive.  Without the hot hand of Tiberi from the outside this afternoon, the offense was still very anemic and mostly Dimonde Hale.  Thankfully, Ghiloni saved himself from the boneheaded move of the century by putting Tiberi back in the game after pulling him with 8 minutes left and watching the lead evaporate immediately.     

The difference maker in this game, other than the red-hot shooting of Tiberi, was the performance of the Big Red defense.  They contained the Wabash big men extremely well and kept Shelbourne from penetrating.  Kurosh did little damage inside against the smaller Big Red defenders and Bailey seemed to be a non-factor the entire game.  He didn't seem to be laboring, but I wonder if the injury kept him from going full speed. 

I will be interested to hear Wabash fans' take on the game.

Wabash fan take on the game.....Tiberi was the key , Wabash continued to lose him off the ball and he was deadly.   Bailey is in an old fashioned shooting slump, growing up with Jordan Hulls and having a similar work ethic, I can guarantee his time in the gym has increased since Saturday, expect DePauw to bare the brunt of his work.  Could the knee injury have something to do with it, possibly altered his jump? Maybe but more likely a slump.   Too good to stay down long.  It wasn't that he was being defended too close, he was getting good shots.  And it is clear that Wabash needs Bailey to score to win.

  Curosh hand finally seems well.

  Also Wabash has tried to work to penetrate to the bucket more since the last DePauw game and that's good, but....abandoning / not looking for the 3 pointer in their offense as much..has left them with teams packing it in....the 3 pointer is what had them undefeated until Transylvania .... Lost that game not shooting well from 3 and immediately changed the style.  Not sure how that is going to play out....lots of good shooters on the team....might need to open the scope a little and free up the inside. 

Denison played about as well as I have seen them, outplayed us and deserved the win.

Quote from: Mr. Ypsi on January 23, 2012, 09:46:38 PM

Quote from: Wabash2011 on January 23, 2012, 09:41:42 PM


Pollsters don't vote on the basis of only conference games, so conference standings are borderline irrelevant.

Can you please explain this statement?

Non-con games go into the 'full body of work' considered by voters.  Not having studied the teams, I don't know how that factors in.  Just saying that conference standings, per se, don't really matter.  (In the CCIW, Augie is currently two full games behind IWU, Wheaton, and NCC, but is just ahead of IWU and Wheaton, and NCC received ZERO votes.)
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Thanks, seems that when conference play starts in full across the country, how they are playing against each other in conference would be all the data available for half the season.  I assume by year end, it does.  With most conferences approaching half way, I'd think it would factor in naturally.

Pollsters don't vote on the basis of only conference games, so conference standings are borderline irrelevant.
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Can you please explain this statement?

Quote from: smedindy on January 23, 2012, 07:01:58 PM
As a voter in the Poster's Poll, I put a blanket around Wabash / Witt / Wooster in the middle of my rankings. I can't complain if some voters put Wooster ahead, since Wabash looked bad against Witt and then Witt lost to Hiram. It's a tough, tough year.

I agree the parity is really tight but for a team to be behind in conference but ahead in poll, means those that don't follow NCAC polling on the history of program.  In the end doesn't matter, winner will be decided between the lines.

Quote from: smedindy on January 23, 2012, 07:00:57 PM
Wabash's loss to Witt looked bad, then Witt lost to Hiram. Wooster beat a good OWU team. It's really hard to discern any difference between many teams.

I understand the above statement, BUT.....Wooster has lost to Witt, DePauw and Wabash.....yet they rank in the poll above all three.  Hiram beats DePauw and Witt, but not Wabash.   Wabash loses to Witt and DePauw.  I would think that both of those teams are worthy of consideration above Wabash and Wooster...Granted Wabash had a bad game at Witt, and Witt had a bad game at Hiram....Wabash beats Wooster by 14..DePauw beats Wooster by 9..a week removed..really don't get this one at all.  Seems more about the program and history than the team.....parity, yes...serious question, does NCAA look at this poll at all? Even politically at the end of the year?  I think the answer is no, but just asking.

Interesting, for the NCAC ....http://www.d3hoops.com/top25/men/2011-12/week8

New poll, don't understand the Wooster leapfrog again, http://www.d3hoops.com/top25/men/2011-12/week8

New poll....Wooster leapfrogs again....http://www.d3hoops.com/top25/men/2011-12/week8

Quote from: seinfeld on January 22, 2012, 06:40:19 PM

Quote from: Wabash2011 on January 22, 2012, 04:58:59 PM


If a frog had wings he would not bump his butt on the ground when he jumps.  Just as relevant as the statement above.  Not a pollster or NCAA tourney official who put any weight on that piece of trivia.

We were going along pretty good this year, then comes this piece of junk comment. Please tell me you are smart enough to know WoosterBooster was inferring to how close the conference is, not some philosophical statement or saying the Scots should get bonus points for losing a close game. And if you were actually at the game he was talking about, you would know how it truly was a game Wooster gave away. It will be the game that haunts Wooster this year if it fails to make the NCAA tourney.

Seiny, yes, smart enough to know. Yes saw game actually, you are right, Wooster truly gave it away.  Yes, game should haunt Wooster.  So hopefully that clears the air.

Quote from: Wooster Booster on January 22, 2012, 03:20:50 PM

Quote from: smedindy on January 21, 2012, 09:37:23 PM
Standings at the halfway point!

Wittenberg 7-1
Wabash     6-2
DePauw     6-2
OWU         5-3
Wooster    5-3
Hiram        4-4
Denison     3-5
Kenyon      2-6
Oberlin      1-7
Allegheny   1-7

Had Wooster not lost in the last second to Wittenberg, there would be four teams tied at the top at 6-2.

If a frog had wings he would not bump his butt on the ground when he jumps.  Just as relevant as the statement above.  Not a pollster or NCAA tourney official who put any weight on that piece of trivia.

Quote from: David Collinge on January 19, 2012, 06:21:48 PM
Now watch Hiram shock the Tigers this weekend and throw a monkey wrench into the works.

Hiram is the most dangerous Jekyll and Hyde team in the conference, especially at home.

Quote from: pennstghs on January 18, 2012, 09:26:10 PM
Wittenberg 61 Wabash 43

This is not the Wabash team I expected to see as they left their game and intensity back in Indiana. Wittenberg outplayed Wabash to some extent but Wabash played themselves out of the game. The 4-22 three point shooting was more of a Wabash settling for outside shots as very limited post touches occurred (minus the 4-5 wide open layups in the early part of the game)

Witt pounded it inside and thus shot 29 to 5 free throws. This wasn't an officiating disparity, just the way the game

HUGE 2 game lead now for Witt and if they can win Saturday at Hiram I will feel really comfortable with Witt's chances to win the league title this year. Reason being, at Hiram has been a tough game for Witt and is your cliche "trap game." I think we'll see how focused this team is on Saturday.

Ditto to everything in this post and totally agree.  This was not the Wabash team I have been watching.  Officiating was not the difference in the game, when you don't attack a zone you will not get fouled.   Wabash needs to retool a bit, props to Witts coach, he had this one figured out and they executed.

Quote from: smedindy on January 18, 2012, 09:20:26 AM
Well, it is a league-wide schedule. Even if President White is the VP, he can only do so much and the league has to approve all schedules. It's obvious that in the best interest of the league it makes sense to do the Hiram / Gheny two-step right as January begins, and also it's best for the league to have every team play conference games on the same day after the holiday break. It makes it easier to actually schedule and also makes it quite intriguing for fans.

I did take a look at the historical results on the Wabash site. In some years there was a week break early in January, and others there didn't seem to be a comps break. It wasn't consistent. Last year was odd because of the nine-team league. In 2010, there was a break between 1/2 and 1/8 but I didn't know if that was for comps or just scheduling reasons. In 2007 the break was between 12/30 and 1/6. In 2006 there was no real break. And so it goes...

It's probably wise to have a home game scheduled during comps. That may be the best compromise.

I knew I could count on you smed for the research....close enough to the current team to know I had a discussion with Coach Petty and it was an issue on his radar that he focused on....to whatever extent he could influence....And yeah Ralph, it is not an excuse, it is reality that 4 years of hard work rest on those exams and it does lead to mushy brains....and mushy brains lead to not the greatest execution on the court.  Nuff on this, on to whipping up on Witt tonight.