Quote from: forheavendial4999 on May 20, 2011, 12:45:30 AM

Quote from: CafeBordeaux on May 20, 2011, 12:28:31 AM
As far as continued success, I just looked up CNU history and under Coach Harvell, they were national runners up (congrats on that, well deserved) and a third place finish (congrats on that as well) other than that, there isn't much else to ride home about as far as regional/national competition is concerned. 

Hopefully after reading this, everyone knows not to listen to you about anything.

I mean really, what a dumb statement. "Aside from playing on the last day of the championship tournament twice, you haven't really done much."

About the only thing more they could do is win the championship, which I have a feeling still wouldn't shut you up.

God I miss Wesleyan and Methodist being really good in the South. Class programs with classy and knowledgeable fans who don't think D-III baseball started in 2007.

I believe what he was trying to say is that CNU has been to the world series twice under Harvell and SU has been to the world series twice under Anderson. I dont think he was downplaying the two world series appearances by CNU even though it could easily be taken that way. As far as Shenandoah fans and players not having any class, you couldnt be more wrong. I think this had kinda been building up on the former players and now that we are no longer playing we can actually get on here and debate. CNU historically has a better track record than Shenandoah. There is no arguement there. So I can see where CNU25 was coming from all except the comment on SU not deserving the respect. Anyone who personally knows the Shenandoah fans, players, and coaches know that we are a class act.

I think I just realized who CNU25 is...........perhaps this should be taken up on softballmania?? haha

Quote from: cnuball25 on May 19, 2011, 04:50:03 PM
I've been reading this board all year, but I've stayed away from it...primarily because I find message board "arguments" silly and pointless. However, I'm not going to allow the SU peeps to get on here and beat their chest about 3 years of success. Much like PNeal7 I'm friends with a couple former SU players and I think the world of them and their accomplishments. So with all due respect to those players...this is ridiculous...

When I first transferred CNU, we didn't give a crap about Shenandoah: we disliked Greensboro because, well, who does like Greensboro...playing Methodist was always annoying because you always felt they didn't 'beat' you but they won all the time...Averett college had an outstanding coach but his players had some busch-league antics...and the big rivalry was with NC Wesleyan because we were always seemingly competing against them for the top spot (and they were fun to have a couple cold ones with)...then SU and Ferrum were just long road trips that always seemed cold. I have no clue where the hatred/rivalry with SU came from. Maybe you were so tired of staring up at our a**es from the bottom of the standings you decided to dislike us.

10 years from now, will anybody know who SU is? Will they remember what they've done and what these current classes have worked so hard to accomplish? That depends on what the next generation of SU baseball does. You see, people defend schools like CNU because we've been there, done that (and yet we're still apparently fighting to get over the hump, but that's a different issue in my opinion). SU isn't respected that way yet and 3 years of success won't bring it. People view CNU/Methodist/NC Wesleyan in a different light because those 3 schools have experienced success for a sustained period of time.

"Coming to play" for the better part of a decade will bring that.

Baring some unforeseen event, it's known that in 2020 CNU will still be near the top of whatever conference they're in (provided it's still DIII) and still competing for regional championships (and hopefully more). The same bold statement can't be said for a school like SU.

Hats off to my Captains for a record-breaking season, and best of luck to the remaining schools in Tennessee.

Case in Point...."SU ISNT RESPECTED".......That is why former SU players take this subject personal.......We feel that what we did the last two years and what they have done so far this year DESERVES that respect. We have been talked down apon on this board the last three years by many. "Our weak scheduales and inflated numbers" yet we won the region two years in a row. Yes, Bridgeforth is a short porch compared to most but what people dont realize 90% of the time the wind there is blowing across the field and knocks the ball down. I saw alot of balls that were crushed that would have been out of any ballpark but because of the wind they were caught. The other 10% of the time the wind is calm or like the 09 series with Methodist blowing straight out. In the end it all evens out. The deminsions of that field do not effect batting averages. Exactly how many regionals in a row does a team have to win to get that respect that you are speaking of? ONE MORE WIN BOYS!!!!!!!

Anyone know when the All Region teams come out? I'm thinking that the USAS should have a few representatives and possible Player of the Year

Quote from: PNeal7 on May 18, 2011, 04:54:13 PM
Everyone has an off day, CNU just picked the wrong time to have it. I'm going to blame the extremely long layoff between games (ask the Buckeyes how that works out in Bowl Games). Either way, CNU lost and is now facing elimination the rest of the way through. However, it can happen, as John Hopkins a few years back is a prime example.

PNeal, I will agree that the long layoff is to a disadvantage, I used to hate that. How long of a layoff did Webster have? I can see CNU getting back to the championship but I dont see them winning it. Today reminded me of NCWC in 09 when they won the Conference Tourny and then came out flat in the regional.

I wouldnt say he got into trouble because of plays in the field. He threw well, and they had 3 errors with him making one of them. The big "game changer" was when SU has 2nd and 3rd one out with their 9 hole up and instead of it being an 0-2 count there was a catcher interference call. After that He hit the next guy to walk in a run. He then gave up a double to Van STUDler. He threw a good game but I wouldnt blame the loss on the defense behind him.

Way to go Bossman........Everyone knows its in the unwritten rulebook of baseball to never bring that up....the baseball gods were reading the boards today haha

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Quote from: Richard of Funchester on May 17, 2011, 11:12:24 AM
Please tell me if I am wrong about this, but it looks like the South Region games will have live stats and video for the duration of the tournament in Millington.  I clicked on the video feed to see which video player would be used on my computer.  It's going to cost $7.99 a game to watch or $9.99 for the month of watching games.  Does anyone else think this is nuts??  Maybe I am just looking at this wrong.....

Tell me why they should not charge you ?   The equipment and people and services are not free.

I think that it is ridiculous that they are charging people to watch a Division 3 Regional unless the Video is legitimate which if its anything like any other games I have watched it isnt.  And for them to charge 7.99 a game
? or 9.99 a month? Come on. Nobody is going to use this for a month. You will watch it for the 3 to 4 days that this tournament goes on. I think they have taken into consideration that this years tourny is far away for 4 of the teams and assume that fans wont be able to make the trip so they are taking advantage of us. Who gets the money? I havent looked at it yet

Quote from: Falcon2720 on May 10, 2011, 11:12:30 AM
Whenever there is controversy over regional rankings and someone wants to question the validity of those ranking you should look at who is on the south region committee.  Last I checked Jeff Cleanthes (Rhodes Head Coach) is the chair of the committee.  Here's a question,  I wonder what Rhodes would be ranked if he wasn't the chair?  My guess would not be fifth.

Pauperboy,

Obviously you want to do a comparison between MU and Rhodes.  Maybe somebody has ruffled your feathers?  If you don't feel MU is capable of winning a regional then I'm not sure how you feel Rhodes is capable of winning a regional.  Methodist had their chances as did Rhodes.

Using the human element, Rhodes ended the season on fire, losing 3 of their last 4 games.  2 games to a Hendrix team that is one of the best in the country at 19-22.   Using your logic the win over Wooster means nothing since it was Wooster's 4th game in 4 days to start the season while Rhodes was playing its 18th game.  Wooster is also having a down year compared to their usually standards.

For every Immaculata, Swarthmore, and Purchase  (All 3 teams over .500 BTW) I can point out MacMurray (3-33), Centre (13-23), and Sewannee (10-21).  I guess MU should schedule bad south region teams to bulk up their in-region record like Rhodes.

Wasnt Tom Austin on the committee last year? Methodist was on the bubble and also were hosting the regional and that had to influence on whether or not they got in. I dont feel that having a coach on the committe gives you an advantage

Quote from: Boysofsummer21 on May 05, 2011, 11:49:36 PM

Quote from: narch on May 05, 2011, 11:22:31 PM
back2back...i think those names are pretty good...i'd like to see how bailey's career numbers stack up vs. inghram's and maybe even jesse henry from su...

van sickler is a no-brainer

brett thomas put up monster numbers for fc for a couple of years

blake rice from ncwc had a good run as a pitcher, as did yost from averett

the burgess kid from gc had a few really good offensive years, as well

here are my monarch suggestions

blake maxwell career:
pitching: 7 wins, 4 losses, 22 saves, 110.2 ip, 1.79 era, 91 k's
hitting: 154 ab, 50 hits, .325 ba, 6 hr, 40 rbi

Dan Glies,OF - no career numbers, but here are his accolades:
2000 diac/usasac rookie of the year
2002 diac/usasac player of the year, 2nd team all-american
he was probably one of the hardest working players i've seen in the diac/usasac...really a great player

ryan brandt had a really solid career for the monarchs, and he was the conference pitcher of the year in 2005, but i'm not sure he'll make the cut – here are his career numbers:
23 wins, 13 losses, 342.2 ip, 3.15 era, 294 k's, holds the mu career record with 4 shutouts

i don't have his career numbers, but jesus adames was a pretty darn good catcher – his 2003 season was pretty nice and he was a 2nd team all-american that year:
.384 ba, 10 hr, 32 rbi, 12 sb

a trio of current monarchs deserve consideration, as well:
brian inghram career numbers:
.354 ba, 20 hr, 157 rbi, 47 sb

trey such career numbers (3 years) – 2009 usasac rookie of the year, 2010 2nd team all-american
.359 ba, 32* hr, 130 rbi,
*one hr away from the mu career record, held by mike brewington, who played in the majors  

i thought that i might be overstating his career to think of lancaster, but he had a nice run:
.344 ba, 1 hr, 97 rbi, 84 sb

i think maxwell, glies and such are all legit all-decade guys, while the others merit strong consideration

Bailey numbers can be found in the CNU media guide for 2010 (they don't have one for 2011??) and his number are better over all and he got a ton of awards. they had the same number of career RBIs and Ingram has more SB. But Bailey hit .375 for his career.

After playing agaisnt both of these guys I think Bailey has the edge. He was a STUD both defensivley and at the plate. He always seemed to get the big hit when the game was onthe line.

Trae Baily?
Kenny Moreland?

Pecora?


Im not familiar with any players from 2000- to 2005 so you guys will have to throw in names from that span....

Quote from: hasanova on May 05, 2011, 09:24:59 PM

Quote from: forheavendial4999 on May 05, 2011, 09:02:08 PM
However, in this context I was mostly joking. Check the batteries in your sarcasm meter.

I think sarcasmometers run on solar energy and usually malfunction when someone's in the dark. 

Let me apologize for not picking up on that. Whenever someone uses sarcasm I normally find it somewhat humerous. This wasnt.

Hasanova.......You got a chuckle out of me with your comment......that was pretty good.


Well get this started.......Is Van Sickler on your list?

Quote from: forheavendial4999 on May 04, 2011, 06:37:06 PM

Quote from: hasanova on May 04, 2011, 03:18:09 PM

Quote from: Back2Back!! on May 04, 2011, 02:21:44 PM

Quote from: BMoore#4 on May 04, 2011, 08:27:20 AM
Transfers are a crazy subject anyways in d3 baseball.. especially with no money for scholarships to give out.  That could have a major factor in it as well as being close to home.   Its a sticky situation for coaches and makes it hard on them. Sometimes though coaches get lucky recruiting.  Look at the 2006 ncwc world serious team i played on. Matt Smith was headed to UNCW but a spanish grade in highschool did not allow him to go there so he ended up at NCWC.  Chris Pecora.  recruited by some D1 schools but wanted to be close to home  ended up at ncwc.  Ryan Syder a all american 2nd baseman that was looked at by d1 schools but decided to go smaller for playing time. Kenny Flyth a ecu commit and grades led him to ncwc. Myself had a uncw walk on spot or a 15% scholarship to Elon but 3 weeks before schools starts i come to NCWC.  Andrew Webb who was going to go to Campbell but decided to stay close to home and get more playing time end up at NCWC.   So yes transfers hurt coaches but also can help and by kind of doing nothing end up with a good team.   

Speaking of teams  here is a good topic   lets come up with a all Century team  2000- 2010    lets do 8 position players.. 1 util.. and 6 pitchers as they could carry a team...

Wouldnt an all century be the last 100 years? haha how about an all decade team

Oops!  Two errors in the same inning. 

Well, it could be so far this century. Then just keep updating and eliminating.

That is possibly the WORST idea I have ever heard

Quote from: BMoore#4 on May 04, 2011, 08:27:20 AM
Transfers are a crazy subject anyways in d3 baseball.. especially with no money for scholarships to give out.  That could have a major factor in it as well as being close to home.   Its a sticky situation for coaches and makes it hard on them. Sometimes though coaches get lucky recruiting.  Look at the 2006 ncwc world serious team i played on. Matt Smith was headed to UNCW but a spanish grade in highschool did not allow him to go there so he ended up at NCWC.  Chris Pecora.  recruited by some D1 schools but wanted to be close to home  ended up at ncwc.  Ryan Syder a all american 2nd baseman that was looked at by d1 schools but decided to go smaller for playing time. Kenny Flyth a ecu commit and grades led him to ncwc. Myself had a uncw walk on spot or a 15% scholarship to Elon but 3 weeks before schools starts i come to NCWC.  Andrew Webb who was going to go to Campbell but decided to stay close to home and get more playing time end up at NCWC.   So yes transfers hurt coaches but also can help and by kind of doing nothing end up with a good team.   

Speaking of teams  here is a good topic   lets come up with a all Century team  2000- 2010    lets do 8 position players.. 1 util.. and 6 pitchers as they could carry a team...

Wouldnt an all century be the last 100 years? haha how about an all decade team

Quote from: narch on May 03, 2011, 10:01:48 PM

Quote from: Back2Back!! on May 03, 2011, 09:45:51 PMDoes this happen alot at Methodist? Players transferring to Division 2 and Division 1 schools? and if so do you think they come there with the mindset that they will transfer after a year or two or are they just not happy there? I remember Seth Kivett transferring out when I was playing and he was a HUGE stick in your lineup.

it obviously has happened in these situations...i'm not sure any of those guys attended mu with the intention of transferring, though...mahaffey is originally from ohio and fasano is originally from ny, so perhaps they were getting closer to home...kivett was a shock because he left after 2 years...i don't know much about willingham except that he went to a christian high school and north greenville is a pretty strongly religious place, so perhaps it was that - ultimately that's part of the game

It is a part of the game.........but why not go to a Division one school out of high school? It happens at Shenandoah all the time players leaving but it normally is players who really dont get much playing time. All these guys would have made a big impact.

Quote from: narch on May 03, 2011, 09:41:17 PM
i know we could all play "what if", but i wasn't thinking earlier today...what if mahaffey, fasano and willingham were still pitching for mu...and i did a little research

mahaffey has pitched 14 innings this year for marietta with a 1.29 era and 16 k's over 4 appearances....looks like he hasn't pitched much, so maybe he's missed some time due to injury

fasano has 34.1 innings for d1 rutgers with a 2.88 era and 20 k's - he has the 2nd lowest era on the rutgers staff and has pitched the 5th most innings...he could have helped mu

willingham has thrown 27 innings for d2 north greenville and has a 3.67 era...he is 6th on the staff in ip

those three arms could have helped mu tremendously this year....

Does this happen alot at Methodist? Players transferring to Division 2 and Division 1 schools? and if so do you think they come there with the mindset that they will transfer after a year or two or are they just not happy there? I remember Seth Kivett transferring out when I was playing and he was a HUGE stick in your lineup.