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#1
DelVal is in the playoffs...I'm new to this and I understand there is also an ECAC bowl. Is that for those in the East who didn't make the playoffs? Is it a tournament style thing also, or just a one game consolation type of thing? Who is most likely to get into that? My interests are the MAC and NJAC.
#2
If you had a son that lived 30-45 minutes from both Rowan and Widener which school would you prefer for him to attend? Son is trying to choose between several D3's but is leaning toward these. His HS coach is VERY clear that they are both interested.
#3
Curious about Rowan...Apparently people don't think they are as good this year as they may have been in past years. I haven't followed  them much. What positions need more strength?  I saw a post on another board about transfers. Maybe Rowan can pick up some too.
#4
Albright put up a big score again 57-17. Last week they beat Wilkes 65-26. Widener lost to Wilkes this week. Should we now expect Albright to beat Widener? Albright is off to a great start!
#5
Congrats to Albright, going 2-0 with a convincing win against Geneva, 46-10. Next up is Wilkes.
#6
link to a video of the poll results
http://www.gomacsports.com/news/2011/8/11/FB_0811113855.aspx

is there any schedule or info on scrimmages?
#7
Not sure who the oddsmaker's favorite is....but MY favorite to win is Abright. This will be my learning year because my son is new to the program, so I can't decide based on talent. I HOPE the Aggies don't win, only because he didn't choose to go there!

That stinks about the coach recently suspended at DelVal. He did a stupid thing, but nothing so terrible as to cost his job. I hope they use it as a teaching experience of why you shouldn't drink too much, or how NOT to behave.
#8
good info! Personally glad to see the NJAC and MAC so close in ranking! A lot of the top conferences are too far for us to ever have considered. Do you think there'll be much changes in this year's rankings based on last season finishes? When I get a chance I'll look at the playoff teams and see what I think for myself too. Thanks for the info.
#9
Is there a thread somewhere that compares the strengths of conferences? Which conferences are "more competitive" and what does that really mean? Is it a matter of who sends more teams to the playoffs? Should a recruit consider the competitiveness? Obviously everybody wants to be on a winning team. Doesn't a weaker player have a better chance in a weaker conference (of getting actual playing time?)

I always called my first con my "practice child", unfortunately we didn't get to practice football recruiting with him. I wish we had because I think I lost sight of the scholarship potential of D2 schools outside of the PSAC and even of the schools further away in that conference. THe PSAC schools nearest us have limited scholarship funds. I forgot to encourage the further schools because I forgot that scholarship $ could offset travel costs to see him..

That said, we are all happy with his MAC conference choice.  We liked a few of the MAC schools and everything about his choice seems to fit and it's 1.5-2 hours away. He didn't pick the one with the best record, but hopefully they'll get there! I hope that having real (not imagined!) D2 potential means he should have strong chances to see first year playing time in D3. My hubby and I have also been hopeful for him to play in college. We feel very lucky to get to keep watching him play because there are many who aren't.

#10
 FBP,
Was it Western New England? My son had heard from them on and off and in March he finally spoke with them. We had avoided them originally due to distance. Once he spoke to them I looked them up and realized they were probably worth a look....nice size, team looked good, and price in line with others...It was just getting late and he liked his other choices and I think we were tired of traveling to see these schools etc. I did realize then that there were probable many that we wrote off for no good reason. I hope he made the right choice.

Good luck to your son! Is he working out hard? Mine took about month off (except for normal lifting) due to prom, graduation, wisdom teeth etc. Now he is getting back into it.

We didn't know much about the conferences. Our coach told us NJAC was the most competitive and if he went D3 to go NJAC, but Rowan was too close to home, TCNJ might not have been a good fit academically, and for various reasons we decided the MAC looked like the way to go. Here's hoping Albright has a great 4 years coming!

One good thing would have been that in the NJAC rosters are limited to 100 and he would probably have had a better idea where he stands. Practices are probably more efficient with a smaller team as well.

Once again, enjoy the season. Our first JV game is 8/27 (thereabouts) and I assume as a freshman he'll be playing in that....only 2 months away!
#11
Quote from: Jonny Labcoat on April 29, 2011, 02:54:43 PM
One thing you have to remember about d3 schools is that they don't have to fill any spots with scholarship players.  D1 schools basically have to tell people that aren't getting scholarships that they aren't good enough to play there.  D3 coaches can tell a kid that they are the best thing since sliced bread just to get that kid to go there.  Many good d3 players were overlooked in high school and coaches know that.  So if you recruit 100 players and tell them they are all superstars, you might get 30 of them to go to your school and only 5 of them will actually be any good.  If you recruit 300 players and tell them the same, 75 of them might come to your school and 15 of them will be really good.  Hence, many d3 coaches might benenfit by telling as many people as possible that they want them.

Just my two cents.

You make a good point. I like to think my kid is one of those overlooked....Pace wanted him but he didn't like it...and it's not a top program by any stretch. East Strouds. liked him, but not enough to give him any of the little bit of scholarship $ they had, they only took 3 NJ guys, a QB and 2 OL/DL..they like their PA boys. He had some other D2 interest from out near Pittsburgh but he didn't follow it up. I stupidly didn't suggest he look further away, forgetting scholarship $ could pay for airfare!

The coach told him he was 2nd on his list for his position. I like to think it's true, but I also know it could be what you say they do--recruit as many as possible...it makes sense. We can be biased when judging our own kids! He was a full-time player--SS and WR

.Any parents or players out there who were recruited and whose reality turned out, or didn't, like their expectations? I guess that's what I really want to know.

On a different topic.....he didn't pick DelVal...but what are the chances that the head coach moves on? I'd think he'd be getting offers. I think it was him that said he has 2 young kids and they like the area....(I asked him or the OC the question....can't remember for sure but I think it was head coach...nice guy)


August is close and yet so far away!
#12
I wondered, specifically, in the average MAC conference school,, how many of the 50-60 "commited players" that is those who told the coach they were coming...how many of them were actively sought after by the recruiting coaches. My son was told that he was high on the list of players they wanted for his position. I hope that means a good chance of first playing time...or at least making it onto the bus. By good chance, I mean compared to the other freshmen...not expecting to start first year! 50-60 guys is a lot of competition.

As far as annoucements....deposits are due May 1, so I wondered if they'd announce who had committed, basing commitment on deposit being sent in.

Obviously, I'm new to this world of college ball so please be patient!

#13
 I got the impression at one school in particular that if you want to be on the team, you can. Doesn't mean you'll play, but I guess they don't turn guys away. Tuition is one reason. Stevenson added football to try to get more males to attend the school. More athletes means more students and more $$. I guess there are students out there who like the idea of going to a school that has football, it's something to do on the weekend.
#14
Sorry Kate! We are only an hour from DelVal, loved the area it was in (I grew up in Bucks County). He was afraid the ag majors would be all farm people and he'd have nothing in common. He's not a country boy. Sadly, I think the education is not ranked as high for him as the football, girls and parties and I assume he was afraid the second two wouldn't fit his style! The football is great...that much he knew. I HOPE he is going to school for more than what I listed though.

I should remind him what you said though!

You from DelVal? Or a farm gal from somewhere else? What's your interest in the MAC?

On another note....does anybody know if the D3's announce their recruits at any point?

How many freshmen does a typical MAC team take and how many of them are actually "recruited" rather than just sort of allowed to join the team? My son got a lot of attention from a few schools, but I heard the incoming #'s are high so I'm trying to get a feel of how it works. Should I ask this in a new message?

I'm so excited my son will be playing college ball this fall! Was afraid he'd bail out if he didn't go D2. Now I think he is excited!  Being from NJ...D2 (PSAC) was tough to get into without going hours away. The Eastern PA schools stuck with  PA boys.
#15
Lyco and Susq are pretty close together aren't they. I look up the schools' info on collegeboard.org to get quick info on them. Lyco seems to be pretty small. Even smaller than Albright, which my son thinks might be too small, but he liked his visits so he picked it.

Clicked on link to Susq from collegeboard.....saw they had a ring photo gallery link on the football page. I haven't seen that on other sites, it's a good idea. The ring looks nice. I dream for my son to get a ring like they got at Delaware Valley....it's really nice and says three peat. He considered DelVal, but the high % of agric students and the higher price after fin aid combined to make it a no-go. He really liked the coaches and stuff though.

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