Quote from: Viking Mike on August 04, 2011, 10:35:22 PM
Augie picked 5th in the league........ hmmm, interesting.............................

Agreed...With a QB like David Lee coming back, I have a hard time seeing them finish 5th.

Quote from: Mr. Ypsi on June 01, 2011, 07:00:01 PM
Probably not.  Just responding to your post.  While I agree that Johnson deserved it by himself, I don't think the co-COY position was unreasonable (in fact, I hoped for it, even though I neither expected it nor advocated it).

Gotta stick up for my fellow 'weenies' - I disagreed with their advocacy of Martel, but did not think they were out of line.

GS, again, agree to disagree.  You have your opinion, and I will maintain mine.  There is significant evidence for both coaches.

I don't feel that you were being snarky...Snarky would be if I asked you if you wanted to kiss the IWU National Championship rings 

Quote from: mwunder on May 26, 2011, 02:00:08 PM

Quote from: CCIWFAN6 on May 26, 2011, 10:11:32 AM

Quote from: BigPoppa on May 26, 2011, 07:55:08 AM

Quote from: Mr. Ypsi on May 25, 2011, 11:24:34 PM
Sincere congratulations to the conference award winners!

Jason Pankau was a no-brainer for Pitcher-of-the-Year - I'd guess it was unanimous.

I personally would have gone for co-COYs (Johnson and Martel), but have no problem whatsoever with Johnson getting it solo.

Likewise, I would have gone with Callahan solo for Player-of-the-Year, but have no problem with him sharing it with Hodges.  With two weeks left, it was CLEARLY Kevin's award, but he tailed off at the end, plus there will always (rightfully, IMO) be some bias towards a senior over a sophomore.

Looking at CCIW-only stats one could have made the argument that it was Hodges' award to lose. Hodges had a better CCIW season, Callahan a better overalll season..

Callahan had a better BA, Slugging, OBP, Runs Scored, HR, and was tied for RBI in CCIW only statistics for the conference championship team. He also had more walks and less strikeouts. Not sure how that equals Hodges having a better CCIW season?

And even with the slight wins in most of those categories, Will still managed to have more total bases, more hits, more doubles, more triples, and more stolen bases.  I will grant you the fact that Callahan may have surpassed those totals if he was pitched to a few more times.  But, on the flip side, if he gets pitched to twice more and doesn't get a hit in those two at-bats, his BA is now below Will's as well.

"Conference championship team" SHOULDN'T determining factor for player of the year.  Look at the D3baseball hitter of the year...he's not in Appleton.

I believe being the best player on the best team SHOULD be taken into consideration when it comes down to determining player of the year.  I agree that it shouldn't be the most important factor, but it should be noted.  Will had great stats and had a great season, but baseball is a game that is judged by the categories in which Callahan led in.  If we were judging just based on hits, doubles, etc.  I believe that Petti from Carthage should have shared.  However, in recent years, that is not how it is awarded. 

IMO I would have liked to see Callahan get it by himself.  Congratulations to them both on great seasons, but when you are in the running (actually held until the last weekend of the season) for the CCIW Triple Crown...You should win the award outright.

Quote from: hasbeen on May 26, 2011, 09:39:38 AM

Quote from: Gregory Sager on May 25, 2011, 06:33:16 PM

Quote from: hasbeen on May 25, 2011, 10:18:50 AM
Having seen Pankau pitch nearly every time he took the mound, he may be the most dominant pitcher I've seen in the CCIW in a long time.  He not only performed at a high level for one year, he was conistently a show stopper since his sophomore year.  Congratulations on a tremendous career. 

Congratulations to Angel Carrasco, Trevor Popp, A.J. Nathan, and Ryan Hopp on making the Gold Glove Team as well.

While I agree that Luke Johnson is well deserving of the CCIW Coach of the Year award, I do believe that it should have been shared with Dennis Martel.  I am biased toward IWU; however, if you compare what was lost from last year's CCIW 4th place IWU team and the 2nd place North Park Team, the losses are as large if not larger for IWU.  They lost top hitter Casey McIntosh, leaders and former all-conference/all-region players in Brett Moore, Mike Morrissey, and Kraig Ladd, and nearly their entire pitching staff (Brent Kulavic-2008 All-American/Central Region Pitcher of the Year, Paul Kabbes, Joe Froelich, Alex Tosi, Marty Roche) except for Pankau and Sweeney.  Coach Martel was working this season with two seniors, two juniors, three sophomores, and two freshman as every day position players.  And of those position players, only Grodecki, Hopp, Z Scott, Sullivan, and McDermott started for the national championship team.  Pankau and Sweeney were his only pitchers with significant game experience.

I have always been a big fan of Coach Johnson, and I am not taking anything away from his honor.  He is very deserving of the award, but saying the losses of North Park were greater because of Giovenco going pro and some other injuries is not fair to Dennis Martel and his staff.  I believe we are overlooking his tremendous accomplishment this year because of the success of the IWU program.

Congrats to the Titans on another great season.

I don't agree with you. Personnel losses or not, the Titans were picked to win the CCIW by the league's coaches in the preseason poll. NPU was picked to finish sixth. You can't spin away the fact that the league's braintrust felt that IWU had significantly more talent coming into this season than did NPU; the difference between first place and sixth place is far too big a discrepancy for that.

Dennis Martel had a great season, but the CCIW coaches did the right thing in selecting Luke Johnson as the sole recipient of the award. The guy who deserved to win the COY won it.

Agree to Disagree

Preseason Polls mean nothing once you step on the field.

Quote from: Gregory Sager on May 25, 2011, 06:33:16 PM

Quote from: hasbeen on May 25, 2011, 10:18:50 AM
Having seen Pankau pitch nearly every time he took the mound, he may be the most dominant pitcher I've seen in the CCIW in a long time.  He not only performed at a high level for one year, he was conistently a show stopper since his sophomore year.  Congratulations on a tremendous career. 

Congratulations to Angel Carrasco, Trevor Popp, A.J. Nathan, and Ryan Hopp on making the Gold Glove Team as well.

While I agree that Luke Johnson is well deserving of the CCIW Coach of the Year award, I do believe that it should have been shared with Dennis Martel.  I am biased toward IWU; however, if you compare what was lost from last year's CCIW 4th place IWU team and the 2nd place North Park Team, the losses are as large if not larger for IWU.  They lost top hitter Casey McIntosh, leaders and former all-conference/all-region players in Brett Moore, Mike Morrissey, and Kraig Ladd, and nearly their entire pitching staff (Brent Kulavic-2008 All-American/Central Region Pitcher of the Year, Paul Kabbes, Joe Froelich, Alex Tosi, Marty Roche) except for Pankau and Sweeney.  Coach Martel was working this season with two seniors, two juniors, three sophomores, and two freshman as every day position players.  And of those position players, only Grodecki, Hopp, Z Scott, Sullivan, and McDermott started for the national championship team.  Pankau and Sweeney were his only pitchers with significant game experience.

I have always been a big fan of Coach Johnson, and I am not taking anything away from his honor.  He is very deserving of the award, but saying the losses of North Park were greater because of Giovenco going pro and some other injuries is not fair to Dennis Martel and his staff.  I believe we are overlooking his tremendous accomplishment this year because of the success of the IWU program.

Congrats to the Titans on another great season.

I don't agree with you. Personnel losses or not, the Titans were picked to win the CCIW by the league's coaches in the preseason poll. NPU was picked to finish sixth. You can't spin away the fact that the league's braintrust felt that IWU had significantly more talent coming into this season than did NPU; the difference between first place and sixth place is far too big a discrepancy for that.

Dennis Martel had a great season, but the CCIW coaches did the right thing in selecting Luke Johnson as the sole recipient of the award. The guy who deserved to win the COY won it.

Agree to Disagree

Congratulations to Jason Pankau (3rd Team) and Kevin Callahan (Honorable Mention) on making the D3baseball.com 2011 All-America team!

http://d3baseball.com/awards/all-americans/d3baseball-allamericans-2011

Having seen Pankau pitch nearly every time he took the mound, he may be the most dominant pitcher I've seen in the CCIW in a long time.  He not only performed at a high level for one year, he was conistently a show stopper since his sophomore year.  Congratulations on a tremendous career. 

Congratulations to Angel Carrasco, Trevor Popp, A.J. Nathan, and Ryan Hopp on making the Gold Glove Team as well.

While I agree that Luke Johnson is well deserving of the CCIW Coach of the Year award, I do believe that it should have been shared with Dennis Martel.  I am biased toward IWU; however, if you compare what was lost from last year's CCIW 4th place IWU team and the 2nd place North Park Team, the losses are as large if not larger for IWU.  They lost top hitter Casey McIntosh, leaders and former all-conference/all-region players in Brett Moore, Mike Morrissey, and Kraig Ladd, and nearly their entire pitching staff (Brent Kulavic-2008 All-American/Central Region Pitcher of the Year, Paul Kabbes, Joe Froelich, Alex Tosi, Marty Roche) except for Pankau and Sweeney.  Coach Martel was working this season with two seniors, two juniors, three sophomores, and two freshman as every day position players.  And of those position players, only Grodecki, Hopp, Z Scott, Sullivan, and McDermott started for the national championship team.  Pankau and Sweeney were his only pitchers with significant game experience.

I have always been a big fan of Coach Johnson, and I am not taking anything away from his honor.  He is very deserving of the award, but saying the losses of North Park were greater because of Giovenco going pro and some other injuries is not fair to Dennis Martel and his staff.  I believe we are overlooking his tremendous accomplishment this year because of the success of the IWU program.

Congrats to the Titans on another great season.