Easy win for the camels

Quote from: paclassic89 on November 24, 2024, 04:26:55 PMThis Amherst/UWEC game is shaping up to be a brutal watch

I hope Amherst plays nice - unlike those other NESCAC jerks!

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Quote from: Mr_November on November 18, 2024, 10:30:41 AM

Quote from: Dustin_Patrón on November 18, 2024, 10:22:40 AMIn response to Fitz's comment about the fouls committed by nescac sides in comparison to normies:

Fouls are a part of the sport. In fact, fouling is an important tactic that it practiced and coached at the highest level. I don't think we should shine a negative light on it, as Fitz aimed to do--especially when these teams are coming from the most physical conference in the country and are used to refs that often times let them play. Not to mention, these same teams continue to dominate division 3 soccer.

During last year's NBA season, critics were pointing out the Celtics high volume of 3-point shooting, scoffing at their decision to chuck up 3s rather than getting to the paint or posting guys up. This season, the majority of teams are shooting significantly more 3s after watching Boston skip through the playoffs on their way to an 18th championship for the franchise. Even the Celtics have upped their volume to start the year.

Though an imperfect analogy (fouls and 3-pointers are quite different), I think Messiah and other normies can take something from this. Rather than hang your hat on fouling less than other teams, why not coach fouling? Any Nescac team would have immediately fouled the Williams player during that counter attack (or at least tried to) and they probably could've saved a goal.

I think we're seeing two contrasting philosophies in sports ethics. NESCAC schools operate out of a mode where you must "win at all costs" rather than "winning the right way". Messiah prides themselves on winning with class and sportsmanship, whereas NESCAC schools don't mind a bit of gamesmanship to get the job done. I don't take issue with either approach. It all just depends on your sports ethics philosophy.

Not sure the 3 point analogy works with soccer, to be completely honest.

This is the same Messiah U that prohibits LGBTQ expression?

Maybe hold off on the "ethics" lesson

"the behavior seen above?" What are you referring to?

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Quote from: Dustin_Patrón on November 17, 2024, 03:53:15 PMThe ref had a great position and that "foul" looks like it belongs in an acting class. Williams scored the goal and won the game. Messiah didn't do nearly enough to deserve a result today.

Also, why are the messiah players always winners in life? Are the Williams players losers in life then? Not sure what you're getting at bird man.

I can't speak for Falconer but for myself as a Messiah alum (track and field)...winning in sports is not the priority. Across the programs the coaches facilitate a culture that puts character development and growth in our faith above all else. I am a very different person as a result of my 4 years at Messiah and I credit that to the culture. I love competing but I had to learn that winning isn't everything.

If winning is everything then you can (but not always) get a culture that approves of the behavior seen above.

If that behavior/attitude persists...I have a hard time saying that person is winning at life regardless of what "success" might come their way

No question a foul - and a shame that it decided the outcome of such an important match. But those types of calls are routinely missed.

Definitely not a red card. Just a bad missed call at a bad time.

The announcer for the Conn v. Montclair game is a good 2 seconds ahead of play - makes for a tough watch. I assume this was also the case for the UMW/Washington match?

Quote from: Another Mom on November 11, 2023, 09:10:22 PM
Why does the ncaa bracket show F&M advancing then?

anti-nescac bias

Serpone looked quite riled up after the game... Sky is still blue

Marcucci from Conn Coll projected to be the 2nd keeper in the MLS draft. #25 overall.
https://sbisoccer.com/2021/01/the-sbi-2021-mls-draft-big-board-version-1-0
Camel Pride!

Does anyone know the tiebreak rules in the event Conn and Tufts end the season with the same record and a head-to-head draw?

Certainly an embarrassing comment - for multiple reasons

Quote from: Jump4Joy on October 17, 2016, 08:01:41 PM
With all due respect, I'm waiting for the POY contender to make game-changing impact in tough games.
Hard to emerge as POY without being a consistent game changer in contests against the top of one's league.
Who are the other contenders this year?

On Saturday, Tufts had one player follow Devlin around the entire game. Even when he was nowhere near the ball, Tufts had a player right next to him. When he received the ball, 2/3 guys were on him instantaneously. Despite all this focus on him, he still had a great game. He created nearly all of Conn's opportunities and, as usual, was the best player on the field. NESCAC teams know how Conn plays and make defending Devlin their focal point. They're waiting for another conn player to beat them, unfortunately, no one has stepped up. Better teams with more attacking options and depth can't be defended like teams are defending Conn. If you look at the top forwards and attacking midfielders of the past, they've always had at least 1, and usually more than 1 great attacking option playing alongside them. Devlin does not, and as a result opposing teams are able to focus in on him more so than other top players.

Despite Conn's shortcomings, Devlin's impact this season has been incredible. Over the past few years, I can't recall a player as technically & athletically gifted and as competitive as he is. In my opinion, he's the best and most impactful player NESCAC player I've seen in a while.

Undoubtedly, Devlin is a beast. I was hoping he would get a chance to make an NCAA run this year, but it will be difficult with Leon out for the season and a suspect backline.

Quote from: GabWirz on November 12, 2015, 02:57:10 PM
It really bothers me that Nico did not win player of the year.  He is quite obviously the best player in the NESCAC and on top of the ridiculous skill, physicality, and general effectiveness he has exhibited each game this season, he also has the best stat line in the league to back it up (11 goals and 4 assists).  While these awards should be taken with a grain of salt, they do mean something, and it really is too bad that 30 years down the road Nico will not have a NESCAC POY award to look back upon.   I am somewhat embarrassed for the NESCAC coaches who voted in Odulate over Nico because it shows not only a huge bias but also an inability to evaluate talent (which might be why Serpone is such a superior recruiter to his NESCAC counterparts).  At first I thought Amherst had a recruiting edge because Serpone worked hard and had Amherst's academic reputation working in his favor, but now I am really starting to wonder if it actually has to do with the fact that many NESCAC coaches watch games and genuinely think, "Oh that kid Nico who just scored 3 goals against us in 20 minutes,  one of which was a bicycle kick, is not as good as that solid defender we played against last week".  People always criticize Amherst for a so-called inability to play soccer, but I am really starting to question who knows what about the game and whether the guys who didn't pick Nico are the same guys who try and argue that Hazard is better than Messi.  I am not trying to badmouth Odulate here.  I just think Nico is THAT good.

Let's not act like he was running around dropping hat tricks on everyone. He had 1 league hat-trick and it was against Colby, one of the worst NESCAC squads I can remember.

NPL is a great player, no question, but I don't think he is head and shoulders above the rest as you are indicating. It was a tight race for POY with with more than 1 deserving winner. That being said, I have no doubt that NPL's candidacy suffered from anti-Amherst sentiment, and that sucks. But if you don't want your players to have to suffer due to association with your coach, then fire your coach.