Shocker all around. Only I can attribute this to a 3 week trend of declining team chemistry. So disappointed. Credit to Luther all around. Congrats to NP for a great regular season.

Quote from: Jim Matson on November 06, 2011, 01:11:29 AM
North Park has a shot at a Pool C berth.

That's great to hear, Jim. I was skeptical because of their poor performances as of late, and I didn't what to get my hopes up. With Calvin being knocked out and similar situations, what would you gage Park's chances of receiving the nod?

Quote from: blue_jays on November 06, 2011, 12:07:59 AM
Well I'm glad your mental health is intact. I was worried. Anywho, I've had enough bantering with the likes of you for the season. Happy Thanksgiving.

Happy Thanksgiving to you and yours, too. I was worried we could never agree upon anything.

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Quote from: blue_jays on November 05, 2011, 10:49:30 PM
Hmm, that's twice this year North Park has lost to Carthage despite being the "superior team". Go Red Men, you guys deserved it.

It's interesting how the fans of the teams that don't play in the final always have something moronic to say. Perhaps it comes with the territory of following teams that never end up making the final. Perhaps it has something to do with the fact of having no soccer sense. I've always thought that Elmhurst fans/players have never had the right to mouth off, given their past of no success. Oh well.

See, this is why people don't like you. I started by objecting to your poo-pooing of Carthage when they first won in the regular season, and you've done nothing since to disprove your arrogance. But by all means direct your ire at me, it's all hot air coming out anyhow. Whatever makes you feel better.

Now this is turning into of an argument of who likes who? haha You seem to have relation to Elmhurst, sounds like the pot calling the kettle black, eh? Doesn't really matter, I guess. I feel better knowing that my team is better than yours.

Quote from: blue_jays on November 05, 2011, 11:49:32 PM

Quote from: deepthroat on November 05, 2011, 11:12:52 PM

Quote from: blue_jays on November 05, 2011, 10:49:30 PM
Hmm, that's twice this year North Park has lost to Carthage despite being the "superior team". Go Red Men, you guys deserved it.

you mad bro?

Not me, feeling good actually. I just find it amusing that certain North Park fans who ooze pretension all year get to see their team lose 3 of 4 down the stretch. And I'd like to give credit to Carthage, who stepped up to the plate and won important games.

Not as amusing as Elmhurst continually rotting in the burbs this time every year.

Quote from: Gregory Sager on November 05, 2011, 11:38:06 PM
I was down in Decatur today broadcasting the NPU football game, so I only got back here in Chicago in time to see the last fourteen minutes of regulation and then the (all-too-brief) overtime. I therefore didn't see enough of the game to really comment upon it, other than that NPU really looked like it was back on its heels most of the time. Carthage seemed to be doing a much better job of possessing the ball and forcing the issue.

Just really, really disappointed right now. I give credit to Carthage, but as an NPU fan it feels as though a very talented Vikings team has self-destructed over the past week and a half.

There were some major mishaps on NP's part, as I am sure, Sager, you will hear, so I wont broadcast what happened. All in all, very disappointing. I know how it feels, so I feel horrible for the whole NP team.

Quote from: tjcummingsfan on November 05, 2011, 10:21:58 PM
Carthage 3 North Park 2 in OT.  I haven't seen enough NP games to really comment on a lot, but boy they had some sloppy passing. 

My big question is if this means NP is out of the tourney...?

I agree, very sloppy play. Not at all indicative ("serving as a sign or indication of something" blue_jay thought I'd do the thinking for you) of their play all season. NP seemed to hit some sort of wall the past week and a half. It's very unfortunate. They had an obvious talent increase from last year's team that took the championship. I doubt they will make the NCAA tourney now, but who knows, there has been some interesting chains of events on other ends that may allow Park to get in. Fingers crossed, I guess.

Quote from: blue_jays on November 05, 2011, 10:49:30 PM
Hmm, that's twice this year North Park has lost to Carthage despite being the "superior team". Go Red Men, you guys deserved it.

It's interesting how the fans of the teams that don't play in the final always have something moronic to say. Perhaps it comes with the territory of following teams that never end up making the final. Perhaps it has something to do with the fact of having no soccer sense. I've always thought that Elmhurst fans/players have never had the right to mouth off, given their past of no success. Oh well.

Quote from: blue_jays on November 03, 2011, 06:20:13 PM
No surprise that the CCIW's most disappointing teams (Elmhurst and Wheaton) are done for the season. Both suffered from lack of consistency game to game, and they both went out in poor fashion with late goals allowed. Rooting for Carthage now by default, I guess.
Say what you will about CCIW parity, but not too impressed by the conference this year. North Central and Augie fattened up on their non-conference sked. Millikin's record speaks for itself.
Big question for Wheaton now is who scores next year? Drew Golz was a monster and they ran that offense around him. Rest of the team lacks finishing touch (other than his brother Jordan, who is a great athlete).

Wheaton and Elmhurst were brought as far as their talent would allow, no disappointment nor shame in that.
And this is pretty normal parity as far as the CCIW is concerned. The 4 teams that were in the semis are perennial staples and the rest of the field, well, just add ambiance to the conference. Fruitless effort to expect anything more from NC and Auggie...and when, occasionally, they do pop their heads in and say "hello," it's nothing more than a nice little story.

Very true about Golz; has the most solid build I've ever seen, personally, on the soccer field.

Quote from: tjcummingsfan on November 03, 2011, 03:12:04 PM
Greg, why did Petterson have to sit out three games?  Or was he injured.  I know at least the Carthage game was because of the red card from Millikin, but why the most recent two?

Surpassed the allotted amount of yellow cards a player can receive.

Quote from: Gotberg on November 02, 2011, 10:09:19 PM
Carthage defeated Elmhurst 4-3 in extra time.  From a selfish standpoint, I am glad since Carthage will have a better webcast than North Park.

...and the fact that NP has the chance to prove that their last loss in Kenosha was a fluke.

Quote from: The Sock Heir on October 31, 2011, 12:03:39 PM

Quote from: soc4life on October 30, 2011, 08:23:24 PM
Where are all the NP bloggers??? I am very intrigued to here what is going on behind the scenes since they have dropped their last 2 games. I know Carthage and North Central are having good years, but I would have expected more from a team that is on the verge of making deep run in the tourney.

Some insight would be helpful for those of us who have been keeping up all year. Thx

As it already seems obvious, NP is having an end of year meltdown. They seemingly have played their way out of an at-large bid and will now have to win the conference tourney. They have Wheaton, at home, on Wednesday, but will be with out the services of Petterson, and McNaughton, and possibly Grahn. Hopefully NP can return to form and resurrect, a possibly lost, great season.

Also, Lindmark will be playing, so hopefully he will insert some much needed desire into the team.

Quote from: soc4life on October 30, 2011, 08:23:24 PM
Where are all the NP bloggers??? I am very intrigued to here what is going on behind the scenes since they have dropped their last 2 games. I know Carthage and North Central are having good years, but I would have expected more from a team that is on the verge of making deep run in the tourney.

Some insight would be helpful for those of us who have been keeping up all year. Thx

As it already seems obvious, NP is having an end of year meltdown. They seemingly have played their way out of an at-large bid and will now have to win the conference tourney. They have Wheaton, at home, on Wednesday, but will be with out the services of Petterson, and McNaughton, and possibly Grahn. Hopefully NP can return to form and resurrect, a possibly lost, great season.

Quote from: soc4life on October 28, 2011, 09:53:35 AM
Quick question... Why does the "superior" team always just not play well when they lose? How about the other team just playing that well and deserving to win. How about the gameplan they put together, or their execution on that night. I am sure Carthage was the "superior" team the night they beat NP. Who knows...maybe if NP played to their potential Carthage would have raised their game even more and still won.

Give credit where credit is deserved and leave it at that. Carthage won and NP lost. NP will just need to raise the bar in the tourney as will every other team, to and see if they can win it.

I'm perfectly fine giving credit, where credit is due. For instance, when NP tied UofC. Both sides played well and the tie was a warranted result that night. I'll even go as far to say that Elmhurst executed an excellent game plan against NP (even though it pains me to say). BUT, Carthage was not one of those cases.

Quote from: blue_jays on October 27, 2011, 11:39:57 PM

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Quote from: The Sock Heir on October 27, 2011, 04:38:08 PM

It was a matter of NP not playing well and nothing else.

Now THAT is a stupid thing to say. Teams don't play poorly all by their lonesome. The opponent has say in it too. It's not like Carthage just stood there while North Park missed wide open shots or something. Coulda, woulda, shoulda... this is soccer! A game where you can out shoot an opponent 30-1 and still lose 1-0. Oh and by the way, North Park got out shot.

Jonas is absolutely helping, as they wouldn't have been undefeated as long as they were without his goal scoring ability. Luckily for him, cards reset to zero in the postseason.

The CCIW race is so jumbled right now, no one can control who they might face due to the fact that teams can go from hosting to out of it in one game at this point. But if I'm North Park, I want to face Wheaton more than Elmhurst or Carthage. The Thunder defense can be quite porous in close.

Actually, teams do play poorly on their own. And there were no "Coulda, woulda, shouldas." My point was, NP lost because they did not play well (and no, Carthage did not do anything out of the ordinary. Their goal was garbage and they played within their capacity, that's about it). Which is how inferior teams actually win against superior teams.

Well I'll be happy to hear your explanation the next time North Park loses. Since evidently they are always "the superior team". I'm sure it will be because Ahlberg didn't sleep enough the night before, or Jonas ate a bad egg-salad sandwich, or the referee forgot his seeing-eye dog, or the sun was too bright for the Swedes who are used to 6 months of darkness, which will all correspond to make the team not play to their potential.

Learn how to quote. I never said that NP was "always the superior team." And while you're at it, learn how to read. I never made any outlandish excuses. I simply stated that North Park did not play well, hence the reason why they lost. Surely even you can understand that when a team, with more talent (dare I say "superior") loses to a team that has far less talent, it is USUALLY, not always, attributed to the team with more talent not playing well.