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Quote from: WittFan on December 05, 2015, 02:05:16 PM
You Little Giants might want to rethink your righteous indignation here. As bad as this stream is (was?), it is still significantly more watchable than Wabash's stream of the Wittenberg game earlier this year.

I don't remember having any problem watching that 21 point 4th quarter explosion that buried y'all. It was perfectly clear.

I guess it all comes around in the end. I missed the 17 point first half explosion that buried y'all, but the Tommie stream stabilized in time for me to see the 21 point 3rd quarter explosion that buried y'all a second time.

Enjoy the offseason.

You Little Giants might want to rethink your righteous indignation here. As bad as this stream is (was?), it is still significantly more watchable than Wabash's stream of the Wittenberg game earlier this year.

Quote from: wabco on September 26, 2013, 12:19:44 PMHowever, while on the subject (broad subject of Witt fan base), I understand from Butler University administrative people that Witt fans did not show well there.

Not gonna take the bait, except to point out that you forgot to mention the part where we whipped out that box of puppies and started punting them around like footballs.

Quote from: oldtiger on June 14, 2013, 11:02:47 AM
Witt's 2013 recruits listed:

http://www.springfieldnewssun.com/news/sports/college-football/florida-well-represented-in-witt-recruiting-class/nYJyr/

The Tampa Tribune recently ran a nice article on Keith Hopkins. It sounds like that young man has met some big challenges head-on and in the process has demonstrated character beyond his years. I wish him all the best in Springfield.

Quote from: Ric on November 16, 2012, 01:58:57 PM

This guy compares most to Bill Borchert.

Wow. The bar has been set. And not so coincidentally, somewhere Kevin Burke just $@#t the bed. 

I'm reading these posts and scratching my head about what makes Wabash's two losses this year so "inexplicable." I'm no expert by a long shot, but when a team looses two home games in the way that Wabash did I can only think of two possible explanations. The first is injuries/lack of depth. I don't follow the Little Giants very closely, but since this topic hasn't significantly factored into the discussion thus far, I'm assuming it is safe to discount this explanation. The only other explanation is a lack of mental toughness. I know the Little Giant faithful like to say that Wabash always fights, and therefore I suspect questioning mental toughness may amount to heresy in the eyes of some here, but isn't it likely that the not-quite-so-inexplicable answer to this question is that the 2012 Little Giants just struggled to stay focused and block out distractions?

Looks like Wabash was finally able to ride Wittenberg's coattails into the national spotlight. Congratualtions guys! 

Quote from: wally_wabash on July 20, 2011, 01:45:10 PM
How do you guys feel about the NCAC going to a full round robin?  It's a topic that has come up occasionally over the years...

My thoughts are that I think it's a good idea now which is a change from what I would have said two or three years ago.  Swapping Earlham with DePauw makes all the difference.  If we draw the top/bottom tier line in our league now I think you have the Ws, Depauw, and Allegheny in the top half while OWU/Kenyon/Oberlin/Denison/Hiram in the bottom half.  With a round robin, the top half teams are going to have four real tests and then five games that should be winnable.  Before DePauw, you were really only dealing with four teams, and even three in a couple of Wooster's lean years post-Sutton, which wouldn't have made for a compelling round robin and prevented teams from using the three-non conference games to get some better games (for instance those Wabash/Franklin classics never would have happened).  Four good league games plus one elective to go schedule a good opponent (hopefully) I think makes for a pretty good football schedule.  We'll see how it works out in practice, but I think now is a good time to try it out at least.  At the very least we can kiss those silly power ratings goodbye.   

Granted the power-ranking format had its fair share of problems and teams often failed to take advantage of the opportunities it offered, but I maintain that it is never desirable for a respectable program to be forced to play Hiram and Kenyon. I strongly support any arrangement, as flawed as it may be, where there is a possibility of avoiding these two teams. Honestly, I would rather Wittenberg play an 8-game season than have to spend two weeks a year figuring out creative ways to avoid hanging triple-digits on schools that have consistently proven that they have no interest in taking football seriously.*

*(I want to make it clear that my disdain applies only the administrations of these schools and not the players. Year after year they play their hearts out in spite of impossible odds. Not once have I seen them "phone it in." Most importantly, they handle themselves with dignity and class under the most trying of circumstances. The players on both those teams have my utmost repect.)

Quote from: wally_wabash on July 19, 2011, 03:35:28 PM

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Quote from: ADL70 on July 17, 2011, 08:36:27 AM
I had missed the reference in the "Schedule" section that NCAC was going to full round-robin in 2012, ending the NCAC-UAA schedule.

Two obvious questions:

• Does this mean the strength-of-schedule for the upper half of the league just went from bad to worse?
• If so, does this pretty much guarantee the NCAC's days of hosting a first-round playoff game are over?

I don't think so.  As it was, respectable SOS's were available to the NCAC.  Wabash was ranked #15 by the NCAA's SOS formula last year.

Wabash had a good SOS because the NCAC didn't do a full round-robin. Replace Chicago with Hiram and Wabash's SOS takes a nosedive. So more often than not the full round-robin will hurt the SoS for the top half of the league, right?

QuoteWhat's going to happen is that both the OWP and OOWP figures will trend toward .500 for everybody in the league which will plant most of our teams somewhere around the middle or maybe just a touch above the middle of the pack.  10-0 NCAC champions will host a game more often than they won't.

I think I need to give myself a refresher on how SOS works. Are you saying that the net effect on SOS will be a was because the decrease in OWP for the top half of the league will be offset by the increase in OOWP?

I saw this in the The Las Vegas Review Journal yesterday and thought it was worth sharing. Ron Kantowski wrote about some of the good things that came out of previous NFL labor disputes. On of the things he mentions is CBS's live broadcast of the 1983 Wittenberg/B-W game.

It kind of makes one nostalgic for the OAC's glory days.

Quote from: ADL70 on July 17, 2011, 08:36:27 AM
I had missed the reference in the "Schedule" section that NCAC was going to full round-robin in 2012, ending the NCAC-UAA schedule.

Two obvious questions:

• Does this mean the strength-of-schedule for the upper half of the league just went from bad to worse?
• If so, does this pretty much guarantee the NCAC's days of hosting a first-round playoff game are over?

Congratulations to ONU. You guys played a great game. Good luck the rest of the way.

Congratulations to the Tigers on another great season. Lots of exciting games. It's been a lot of fun to watch.

And a big special THANK YOU to all the Tiger seniors. You guys have A LOT of things to be proud of. You've had a remarkable run.

Halftime in Ada. 24-0 ONU. Witt has no answer for ONU's pass rush. Zoeller rattled.

Small turnout at ONU.

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Great ATN Keith. Very well thought out. Thank you for taking the time to put it together.

I agree with pretty much all of your thoughts, but I'm still struggling with your denfense of SoS. Your argument that using SoS encourages scheduling harder teams. is compelling, but only if you assume teams can deliberately and significantly influence their strength of schedule. I just don't see how you can make that assumption, especially for the many teams in Division III who can only schedule one discretionary game per season. An increase in one opponent, no matter how drastic, just isn't going to move the needle that much.

How much influence are you assuming teams have over their SoS?