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#1
Ok I surrender. I was just playing devil's advocate. Nobody seems to think that having one school dominate the league for 20 years is a bad thing. I have officially raised the white flag. The OAC is a better league this way for all ten teams.
#2
Please everyone understand- All the respect in the world for what the Raider program with the greatest coach in the history of college football. I am just wondering out loud how good is it really for the other 9 schools who are 2-178 against them in the last 20 years.
#3
The Mid-American Conference is your example

2011- Northern Illinois
2010- Miami
2009- Central Michigan
2008- Buffalo
2007- Central Michigan
2006- Central Michigan
2005- Akron
2004- Toledo
2003- Miami
2002- Marshall
2001- Toledo
2000- Marshall

8 different champions since 2000


SEC
2011- LSU
2010- Auburn
2009- Alabama
2008- Florida
2007- LSU
2006- Florida
2005- Georgia
2004- Auburn
2003- LSU
2002- Georgia
2001- LSU
2000- Florida

5 different champions since 2000

Parity at the highest and lowest level of college football

Ohio Athletic Conference
2011- Mount Union
2010- Mount Union
2009- Mount Union
2008- Mount Union
2007- Mount Union
2006- Mount Union
2005- Mount Union
2004- Mount Union
2003- Mount Union
2002- Mount Union
2001- Mount Union
2000- Mount Union
Etc etc etc

#4
So at every level of football. The NFL is the best example. Where the draft and the salary cap are in place to level the playing field. Division I- IAA - II have scholarship limits to level the playing field. The Ivy League does it with admissions. Every level of football including the big boys try to level the field. Only at this level does something like what Mount is doing happen.
With your thinking why not let Ohio State have 150 on scholarship? It used to be that way. People in athletics are always- always trying to make it competitive.
If Mount Union really wants to compete. Move up to Division II . Test yourself where you wouldn't have the roster-admissions- financial aid advantages.
#5
The Division III level is the only place where Mount's dominance would be allowed. In the highest level of non-scholarship football the Ivy League (and also the Patriot League) there are restrictions on Harvard Yale and Princeton's recruiting. They are restricted from taking too many of a certain level of players to level the playing field. The  playing field is artificially leveled to try and produce equality. Why is this? Because it is supposed to be about the student-athlete having a opportunities. How great of a conference would the OAC be if everyone truly had an opportunity to win the league? Below is who would have been the conference champion if there was no Mount Union the past 20 years. Amazingly seven different teams would have accomplished this incredible feat. Everyone can say is is sour grapes or whatever- isn't this supposed to be about the student-athlete experience? How in any way is Mount Union going 178-2 over that 20 year period in the OAC what Division III athletics is truly about. It sure is not about opportunity. The most ironic thing is that Mount is so good, if they lose on Friday it is considered a bad season. Winning the OAC does not mean a lot to their  players- they have a one game season. They win it great year- they lose it bad year. How big would it have been for BW, Heidelberg, Ohio Northern, Otterbein , Capital to win the conference in the last couple of years. Would winning the conference mean anything to their players?


OAC Champions last 20 years
2011 Baldwin-Wallace / Heidelberg
2010 Ohio Northern
2009 Otterbein  / Ohio Northern
2008 Otterbein
2007 Capital
2006 Capital
2005 Capital
2004 Ohio Northern
2003 Baldwin-Wallace
2002 John Carroll
2001 Ohio Northern
2000 Ohio Northern
1999 Ohio Northern
1998 Baldwin-Wallace
1997 John-Carroll
1996 John-Carroll
1995-Marietta
1994- Baldwin-Wallace / John Carroll
1993- Baldwin-Wallace
1992- Baldwin-Wallace / John Carroll

Championships last 20 years
Baldwin-Wallace (6)
Ohio Northern (5)
John Carroll (5)
Capital (3)
Otterbein (2)
Marietta (1)
Heidelberg (1)

Mount Union is the best. No program will ever duplicate what they do. Everyone knows and respects that. But can anyone truly say what they are doing and continue to do is the ideal situation for a conference to have?
#6
I need to get better- I need to learn how to spell competition! That is not excellent
#7
Are you serious- I am the ultimate fan of excellence. I am shouting from the mountain tops saying how good the we are. Challenging all programs to get better.

We have not lost on the road EVER in the last 20 years during the regular season.
WE NEED BETTER COMPITITION!
We are high schoolers fighting 5th graders!
#8
I am just stating facts!

OAC Teams need to step up. If we are going to compete with WWW. We need better competition in-season. 178-2 in no way can be looked at as preparing us for our one game season.
#9
Another Stagg Bowl appearance!
I give a lot of credit to the other OAC schools, that have enabled this historic run that will never be duplicated.What other conference would ever allow a team to plow thru it for 20 years. 

In the last 20 years 
Ohio Northern 1-19
Baldwin Wallace 1-19
Capital 0-20
Heidelberg 0-20
John Carroll 0-20
Marietta 0-20
Muskingum 0-20
Otterbein 0-20
Wilmington 0-20
Total: 2-178

Everyone can say what a great conference the OAC - 2-198 says otherwise. The teams in conference needs to step up. Why won't teams try to bring in 150 freshmen like the Raiders.  Why won't teams carry 250 plus on their roster. They don't want to compete. Their administrations are soft. Dont they realize we can't be caught. Division III is the only level that allows such an uneven playing field. Our roster size- financial aid- admissions- great coaching.  It is like Ohio State having 85 scholarships playing a division II school like Malone  with 36. Year after year-  178-2 baby.

With what Mount does year after year with facility upgrade!
BW had there chance this year. Didn't they have all seniors starting on defense. We will see you in about 7 years for another game. 

Why would we ever leave Division III? If we went Division II we wold have divide 36 scholarships. We would havevto compete on a level field. We will never lose our edge. We are here - its time to start stepping up OAC. Build your roster.