Quote from: GRIZ_BACKER on December 14, 2012, 12:12:24 PM

Quote from: Old Pal Wes on December 14, 2012, 10:22:38 AM

Quote from: BashDad on December 12, 2012, 12:03:46 PM
They have a players problem--and all signs point to the fact that Bill Lynch will be a confusing recruiter, at best.  He coached up some athletes that were more or less evenly matched with Wabash, and then he left. Walker was probably doing all the recruiting anyway. Now Lynch's pitch would be: I promise I won't leave this time? GOOSE BUMPS. SIGN. ME. UP.

Late to the party here on my response to this post from days ago, but why is he a confusing recruiter?  I say again that every single coach in the country would have done what he did when he went to IU.  Nobody turns down a chance to leave D3 to be an asst in the B1G for your best friend.  Nobody. Your assumption that Walker did all the recruiting is just that.  He hardly had time to recruit football.  I would guess that recruiting season is baseball season.  Long was the recruiting coordinator, anyway.  Lynch is a very good recruiter.  He knows Indiana better than just about any coach I've ever met.  There are some unique challenges right now in recruiting Indiana.  Marian is a problem.  Franklin is a problem.  I think the pool of kids that DePauw & Wabash both recruit is dwindling, and truthfully, most of those kids go to Wabash right now.  Why wouldn't they?

I'll say this again, just to make sure we're on the same page with how this is going.  Either they're going to cave to do it Lynch's way or not.  He's the guy for the job.  I believe that 100%.  But, the admin needs to let him do it and stop trying to have a hand in it.  That hasn't worked.  In fact, it destroyed the program.  There are lots of rumors flying about how this staff will be assembled.  Some of it is very, very concerning.  If any of it is true, it's not sounding too promising right now regardless of who the hire is, which makes me sad. 

I'm just working on an assumption here, but I'd be surprised if Bell actually means it.  Like somebody said earlier, why wouldn't you take Coe when Raeburn built it but then turn around and take DePauw when it's a mess and there are questions about the administration's commitment to anything football related?  I thought the same thing when Steve Mohr from Trinity was a finalist for the DePauw job when Lynch got it.  It just feels like a contract leverage situation to me.

Nice to know Franklin is a problem!! 

Next season could the best Coach Leonard has had at Franklin with next years senior class.

Quote from: GRIZ_BACKER on November 21, 2012, 08:01:31 AM

Quote from: umhb2001 on November 20, 2012, 08:17:43 PM
Great article on the front page about Franklin. Bought my tickets today. Lets go!!

Group of us traveling down on a charter bus thurs night and staying with team Friday eve.  Besides shoepfs BBQ what are some other Belton establishments?

My wife's family lives in Austin.  I never leave without visiting "Rudy's".  There is one in Killeen not too far from Belton.

Quote from: GRIZ_BACKER on November 19, 2012, 08:51:33 AM

Quote from: gofor7pitt on November 19, 2012, 08:11:06 AM

Quote from: GRIZ_BACKER on November 19, 2012, 07:05:45 AM

Quote from: Mr. Ypsi on November 18, 2012, 12:53:33 AM

Quote from: gofor7pitt on November 18, 2012, 12:31:32 AM


You just beat #4; next week you face #1 - IF you pull the upset, you will then play #2 (or #3).  If you are not #1 or #2, you will ALWAYS be in a bracket with a #1 and #2!  D'oh!




I meant #1 and #2 in the nation are both on Franklin's side of the bracket.

After I posted I wondered if that is what you were getting at.  Don't forget that the d3football.com poll has nothing to do with selection or seeding.  According to the NCAA committee, Linfield (or perhaps St. Thomas) was apparently #1, with UMU and UMHB as 2 and 3.

But if you (and presumably the fans of 13 other schools) felt that way, imagine how UMU and UMHB felt!

Before the selections, I too would have anticipated a UMU-UMHB Stagg, but I have confidence that a UMU/UMHB/whoever Stagg against whoever emerges on the othe side is still gonna be a game well worth watching!

Good to see the GRIZ prove the "experts" at d3football.com wrong as well.  It was pretty unanimous that Adrian was going to win pre-game if you read this site.  the 42-10 was even that close as FC called off the dogs early in the 4th.

The GRIZ have made the playoffs 5 of the last 6 years and have won a first round game in 3 of those years. The first round losses were to North Central on last play of the game and UWW.  The other losses were to UWW, and Wheaton.  Mary Hardin Baylor awaits. No one has played as many of the powers the last 24 months or so than FC.

The Griz face UMHB this week, and win or lose they will play Mount Union next, either next sat or when they open up the 2013 season. After that a tough Butler team again. Tough road for sure.

The GRIZ aren't afraid to play the best year in and year out. Anybody that thinks SOS is true indicator of a teams strength is naive. Franklin is not really a 5 nor a 6 regardless of the formula.  On to TX.

Totally agree!

Quote from: GRIZ_BACKER on November 19, 2012, 07:05:45 AM

Quote from: Mr. Ypsi on November 18, 2012, 12:53:33 AM

Quote from: gofor7pitt on November 18, 2012, 12:31:32 AM


You just beat #4; next week you face #1 - IF you pull the upset, you will then play #2 (or #3).  If you are not #1 or #2, you will ALWAYS be in a bracket with a #1 and #2!  D'oh!




I meant #1 and #2 in the nation are both on Franklin's side of the bracket.

After I posted I wondered if that is what you were getting at.  Don't forget that the d3football.com poll has nothing to do with selection or seeding.  According to the NCAA committee, Linfield (or perhaps St. Thomas) was apparently #1, with UMU and UMHB as 2 and 3.

But if you (and presumably the fans of 13 other schools) felt that way, imagine how UMU and UMHB felt!

Before the selections, I too would have anticipated a UMU-UMHB Stagg, but I have confidence that a UMU/UMHB/whoever Stagg against whoever emerges on the othe side is still gonna be a game well worth watching!

Good to see the GRIZ prove the "experts" at d3football.com wrong as well.  It was pretty unanimous that Adrian was going to win pre-game if you read this site.  the 42-10 was even that close as FC called off the dogs early in the 4th.

The GRIZ have made the playoffs 5 of the last 6 years and have won a first round game in 3 of those years. The first round losses were to North Central on last play of the game and UWW.  The other losses were to UWW, and Wheaton.  Mary Hardin Baylor awaits. No one has played as many of the powers the last 24 months or so than FC.

The Griz face UMHB this week, and win or lose they will play Mount Union next, either next sat or when they open up the 2013 season. After that a tough Butler team again. Tough road for sure.

You just beat #4; next week you face #1 - IF you pull the upset, you will then play #2 (or #3).  If you are not #1 or #2, you will ALWAYS be in a bracket with a #1 and #2!  D'oh!




I meant #1 and #2 in the nation are both on Franklin's side of the bracket.

Quote from: crimsonace on November 17, 2012, 05:42:31 PM
It's tough to play the "respect" card when the HCAC did not do very well OOC.

True, but Franklin's out of conf schedule was the #1 team in the country and Adrian. Nobody else beat Mount Union and nobody else blew out Adrian as Franklin just did. Well know a lot more next Saturday. I'm just saying I hope next year they don't put Franklin in the same bracket with #1 and #2.

I thought this would be the scenario all along as Franklin has been so good vs the run all season. The great thing about coach Leonard's team is almost entire roster is made up of Indiana kids. He is getting almost all the states top prospects that slip through the cracks to D3 and also a few sleepers. Next season they have almost everyone back and that includes a couple very quick and talented freshman that had their seasons end early due to injury.

Honestly, I thought it was a little disrespectful that so many had Adrian favored especially since it was their first playoff game in 24 years! Plus Adrian won their conference but did not blow anyone out in a league not much better than the HCAC.

2 other teams won on the road today. Witt by 14, and Elmhurst by 3. Griz won by 32, while piling up 370 yard of offense the first half alone. Hope Franklin can get some more respect next year, as in 2012 the Griz have to go through the #2 and #1 team on the road to make it out of their bracket.

Quote from: Pat Coleman on November 11, 2012, 07:47:17 PM

Quote from: formerd3db on November 11, 2012, 07:39:53 PM
Pat, of course, beating a regionally ranked team at the end of the season, last game, no less, seemed to be it.  However, one game doesn't make the season and again, IMO, the entire schedule has to be taken into account as I mentioned.  But...the criteria is as you mention and that's just the way it is.

My point was that beating the regionally ranked team was the new piece of data since the last regional ranking. That's more than enough to flip Adrian over OWU, Wittenberg and Heidelberg, none of whom had that. When the week started, none of those teams had beaten an RRO -- after Saturday, one had.

Franklin should be the favored team heading to Adrian this Saturday.

I agree Wally........The way things are shaping up for Franklin, the situation could be favorable to getting to a 3rd round game. However if the Griz win their last 2 games, they will beat teams both with winning records. Don't move us up too much!  Ha ha.

True, but those two teams were Mount Union, the #1 team in the nation,and Butler who is undefeated in the Pioneer League. The Pioneer league champ starting next season will get an auto bid to the NCAA D1 FCS playoffs. I would argue,Franklin had the hardest first two games in the country of D3 teams. Could have faired better though I guess! But,in reality,I feel Franklin is just as good as any team below Mount Union in the north region. If they can take care of business the next two Saturdays they will then get the chance to prove it.

GRIZ Ranked just #10 in the North Region??? 3 teams from the NCAC are ranked ahead of Franklin although only 1 will make playoffs. But I guess with the next two weeks playing out,Franklin will only move up.

Quote from: BUBeaverFan on October 27, 2012, 10:17:14 AM
Chris Fowler just offered the ESPN Game Day Crew $200 if they could name the only team that has scored against Mt. Union this year.  Desmond and Herbie offered no guess, Lee Corso said Findlay.  Lee wanted half the money for being close.

That's awesome!

Well you could also throw in Witt, Thomas Moore, and possibly Mount St. Joseph. This would be a very good group of football teams that most likely would get an at large bid most years. Another idea from Franklin's side would be to play Witt or Wabash each season instead of Whitewater or Mount, to help offset much weaker HCAC opponents. Would help Wabash or Witt as well.

Where do the regional rankings stand right now?

A couple ?'s here as I am new to D3 Football and how the playoff scenarios and seeding work.  Is it possible the HCAC champ (Franklin ) and the NCAC champ could end up meeting in the 1st round? Or...Do both our conference champs get an away game at one of the top seeds?

Does not seem like Franklin is getting much cred nationally even though the Mount game is not looking so bad as the season unfolds. Franklin is still the only team to score on Mount all year and hold them to under 50 points. 

Also heard a rumor that Wabash, DePauw, Hanover, Franklin, and possibly Trine, are contemplating creating a new conference. This would definately give more cred to that conference champ!  But....just a rumor I heard from a former Hanover player.

Longest conference winning streaks:

48 – Mount Union
25 – UW-Whitewater
21 – Cal Lutheran, Linfield, Mary Hardin-Baylor
20 – Franklin
17 – Johns Hopkins, North Central, St. Scholastica
14 – Monmouth
13 – Christopher Newport
10 – Amherst, St. Thomas

Will it be tough for the Griz to make it 21 this Saturday at MSJ?