UWEC also lost to Pacific Lutheran who was ranked #12 if I remember correctly.

"Oh, I've got some choice stories of girls who chased boys to college. One involved a girl (daughter of my former neighbor) who was a year younger than her boyfriend, so the boyfriend went to his college of choice. The girl had plenty of great options, but was leaning toward her boyfriend's school. Her dad finally decided to lay it on the line for her. He said, "Listen, if he's been away at college for a year, it's likely that he's already cheated on you." Tears flowed! Angry voices raised! Doors slammed! Girl picks boyfriend's college anyway.

Fast forward to July, girl stops by boyfriend's house and meets... new girlfriend from college. They've been dating six months. Always listen to dad!"


LOL!!  OH my - that young man must have been sweating it when she told him she would be there in September. 
I was told by a college counselor that when boys and girls are in the same class, generally girls are quicker to take their ACTs and SATs and apply for college right away and get accepted.  He used that to account for why there are a higher percentage of girls than boys in some colleges.  Girls just apply and get accepted first.  Boys tend to take their time and whoops!  All full.  Not sure how true that is, but sure fits what I saw in my kids!  Although none of them were dating seriously at the time of HS graduation, so no worries there.

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Back in the 80's I went on many recruiting trips to figure out where I wanted to go to school/ play football.  I hit the Midwest circuit, WIAC (WSUC back then) and a few out of state schools that were D2 NDSU, SDSU, Agustana (Sioux Falls SD)and Dana College (NAIA).  I got offered a partial to NDSU and Dana but ended up staying in state at UWO due to a girl. We broke up before we even got to college and I ended up transferring to UWW.  Being an 18 yr. old kid  sometimes you don't think straight haha

The high school significant other is ALWAYS the worst reason to select a college.

And it seems its the boy who chooses the school based upon where the girl goes.  I've heard this many times from parents of boys, but I can't remember the last time I heard the parents of a girl say their daughter chose her school because that's where her boyfriend went.     

Quote from: NewHawk on October 16, 2013, 01:19:02 PM
Keep in mind that a lot of D2 recruits get partial scholarships, not full.  Often financial aid at a D3 can match a partial athletic scholarship at a D2.  With some private D2's a partial still leaves more owed than a public school full tuition.  There is also the factor I mentioned before, playing for a winning D3 vs a mediocre D2

I agree.  I have heard of plenty of WIAC athletes who were recruited by D2 schools and when costs were compared (even with scholarship) the WIAC school was still cheaper or comparable.  Add that to being close to home, going to a school where your friends may be, and playing in the top (arguably) D3 conference, I think there are a fair number of athletes who could play D2 but choose to stay in the area.  Mankato is not too far from WI, so I'm not surprised many of our athletes end up there.  They also seem to recruit aggressively.  Mankato was contacting a couple of our local high school athletes (various sports) as early as their soph year in high school.

    Why would it hurt their recruiting opportunities?  I would think players would like the idea of their games televised.  What am I missing?

Couch

For what it is worth, my experience with high school atheletes is that unless they are 100% wanting to stay close to home, go to a specific school, that they want to play for a winner.  In the WIAC, and D3 no scholarships so it is not a matter of money, it typically comes down to; facilities, coaches, and a winning tradition.  That is one reason in my opinion why it takes so long for schools to reverse direction and re-establish themselves.   My thought was that coaches or athletic directors who make these decisions are afraid of match-ups where they might get clobbered and some local recruits might be impacted.    Obviously there are reasons and thoughts in opposition, but my experience with many administrators is that they have a tendency to be overly conservative and concerned too much about the downside and unwilling to take a risk.   That is why UWW was so fortunate to have coaches that scheduled Mt. Union and other top teams and then Athletic Directors like Paul Plinske who were willing to look more at a risk/reward equation from the what can be gained standpoint.

WarhawkDad

I agree that recruits want to win.  But I think they are smart enough to know that the team that is winning right now may not be the team that is winning in 4 years.  Last year's UWW seniors can attest to that - I'm sure they were very disappointed in how their senior year turned out.  I also think that recruits are attending the games at the schools they are interested in.  They are invited to attend games during the recruiting process.  I doubt if any are going to be surprised at anything they see on tv.  And since all games can be watched via the internet, what's the big deal?  The recruits are watching the games of the teams they are interested in whether they are on tv or not.  If schools are turning down the chance to play on tv (and do we really know if that is true or not?), I would think it was for other reasons.  And if this is the case, how does UWO fit in this scenario?  They're doing well.

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RELEASED:  Tuesday, October 8, 2013

WIAC FOOTBALL TO BE TELEVISED "LIVE" ON FOX SPORTS

Madison, Wis.--The Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference (WIAC) announced today that an agreement has been reached with FOX Sports to broadcast three upcoming WIAC football games "live" on both FOX Sports Wisconsin and FOX Sports North.

The three games will feature two appearances each by UW-Platteville, UW-Stout and UW-Whitewater.  The match-ups, dates and airtimes are as follows:

•        UW-Stout @ UW-Whitewater on October 12 (2:30 p.m.)

•        UW-Stout @ UW-Platteville on October 26 (2:30 p.m.)

•        UW-Platteville @ UW-Whitewater on November 2 (1:00 p.m.)

The games will be carried across the state of Wisconsin on FOX Sports Wisconsin as well as across Minnesota, North Dakota, South Dakota and Iowa on the FOX Sports North PLUS channel.

Looks like they've got the Stout, Whitewater, Platteville round robin covered!

Bleed - I'm being told that only Stout, Platteville and Whitewater opted to be included in the Fox Sports Wisconsin Wisconsin/North WIAC TV coverage.

Why not the other schools?  I have not heard a definitive reason.

Voice

I obviously don't have the definitive reason, but I am willing to bet that others are concerned it will hurt their area/region recruiting opportunities. 

WHD

Why would it hurt their recruiting opportunities?  I would think players would like the idea of their games televised.  What am I missing?

Blugolds up 20-14 at half.  Playing a good game so far. Obviously.

UWEC used their bye week well.  They looked like a different team against #10 Pacific Lutheran.  They lost by two points.  Missed an extra point, which forced them to go for a failed 2 point conversion with about a minute left.  Game could have been tied at end of regulation and UWEC had the momentum.  Ec fumbled a kickoff return which lead to a score by PL early in the game.  Just the little things that EC has got to overcome, but they played well, which was encouraging.  If UWEC could figure out how to play the first quarter, they could win some games.  In both the ST John's game and PL, EC held the opposition scoreless in the second half.  Johnnies game was 17-0 at halftime and final was 17-14 with EC fumble in the red zone in the final minute.  PL was up 21-7 at halftime, with the final 21-19.  So UWEC is very close.
UWEC has played three very good teams in the pre-season and improving with each game.  Hopefully this will help them when conference play starts this week. 
EC's new qb looked much more comfortable.

Quote from: OzJohnnie on September 14, 2013, 04:43:04 PM
To the UWEC supporters:

Heart attack central.  Another game with mistakes and odd decisions where both teams were in a position to win.

The gov't called.  They want Sweeney's bionic legs back.

Bionic legs     Sweeney is the team.  Without him, I don't know where EC would be.  I seriously wonder if they will win a game this year.  If you watched the UWRF and UWEC both play the Johnnies,  how would you say they compare?  EC passing 4/17 with 64 yards and -28 rushing yds by the new qb.  Yes, it was raining, but I believe the Johnnies managed to pass around 250 yds in the same conditions.
Odd decisions - yes - don't even get me started on not letting Sweeney take it all the way.  Have no idea if he was tired or if they needed to talk to him, but EC had two timeouts with 1:30 to go on the 15 yard line, if memory serves me right when they pulled him out.  If EC scored, which looked like a given considering the way he was running, the Johnnies have less than a minute to go with EC leading by 4 points. 
But enough miscues and weird stuff on both sides.  The pouring rain didn't help either which probably caused some of the turnovers.  Back and forth...back and forth....
EC has a bye week and hopefully the coaches come up with something.  They play another ranked team when they get back.  One bright spot was the EC line seemed to hold on defense.  At least it sounded like it.

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Why did they not give it to Sweeney? I don't understand UW-EC.

Nobody understands uwec

I was perplexed. The kid has 266 yards, hasn't been tackled behind the line of scrimmage all game, guaranteed 3-5 yards a pop, hasn't turned the ball over, UWEC's QB is 4-17 with 3 ints, UWEC is on the 15 yard line to win the game, and they give it to someone else???  I thought it was questionable play calling the entire game.  SJU couldn't stop the run, but UWEC wanted to pass the ball the entire game. I'm no rocket scientist, but you give it to your All-American running back when the game's on the line.

Agreed.  I wondered if perhaps they wanted to give Sweeney a break.  But they did have two timeouts left with about a minute twenty seconds left to play.  I know you hate to use your timeouts, but if Sweeney indicated he needed a break, you are on the 15 yard line and have been unstoppable.  A TD here does not give your opponent much time to get on the board. 
EC does not have a passing game.  For those who would point to the rain, the Johnnies did a great job passing in the conditions.  EC has Sweeney.  Period.

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Why did they not give it to Sweeney? I don't understand UW-EC.

Nobody understands uwec

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Is the St Johns/Eau Claire game being streamed?

The short answer is no.   

Johnnie fans who can't make it to the games must love it when they play away. 

Is the St Johns/Eau Claire game being streamed?  All I can find is directions to listen to it.  I'm thinking that perhaps its not on the website yet as it seems all games are streamed these days. 

I was working in a back room and when I returned to the office, it was deserted.  I grabbed my coffee cup and went down to the break room to see what was up.  Everyone was gathered around the tv and I walked in as a replay of the first plane flying into the towers was shown.   As the new kid on the block, I was staring at the tv when the second plane crashed.  I said "OMG!  Two planes?!".    My boss said "No, that's just a replay." and I replied it was not a replay.  The whole room grew quiet as everyone stared at the tv hoping I was wrong.  Moments like that you never forget.

d3football picked UWEC/St Thomas game to be a "surprisingly close game".  Interesting.