Have seen Rochester 4 times and they are legit. They have all the pieces and I think they are Top 10 in the country good. Depending on matchups a chance to be a final four contender if they stay healthy.

Evan Kupferburg NYU was the other in the voting along with Mitch Ford Nazareth. Richardson was 3rd and Kupferburg couldnt attend.

I got 18/19 as well put New Jersey City in over LaGrange and by the sounds of things it was between those two teams for final spot

If they would have beat Union and Oswego they are in.

Heres how I think it will play out.

1. St Thomas
2. Amherst
3. Marietta
4. Plattsburgh
5. Susquehanna
6. North Central
7. Salisbury
8. Tufts
9. Ohio Wesleyan
10. Wooster
11. Elmhurst
12. Oswego state
13. Hope
14. Trinity CT
15. WPI
16. Scranton
17. Whitman
18. NYU
19. New Jersey City

last 4 out Rochester , LaGrange, MIT, St John Fisher

Im really interested to see what happens in the east region I feel like there is a number of things that could happen.

I like Plattsburgh, Oswego and Rochester for at larges in the east. Pool C candidates are weaker than usual and all have cases for it. SUNYAC one of the top conferences who deserves a 3rd team and UAA deserves a 2nd team in NCAAs. All these teams can make runs including Hartwick who won the E8 and also why can't Cortland host with a 20-7 record and winning SUNYAC

Is Rochester a lock for a pool C now? Also what does everyone think of St John Fisher and Oswego State chances for a pool C? Will Oswego host if they lose today?

Empire 8 2015-16 Men's Basketball All-Conference Awards

Player of the Year: Mitch Ford, Nazareth College

Rookie of the Year: Tyler Stenglein, Nazareth College

Co-Coaching Staff of the Year: Nazareth College & St. John Fisher College
First Team
Trevor Norton Hartwick G Sr. Mullica Hill, NJ/Bishop Eustace Prep
Marc Chasin Ithaca G So. Coral Gables, FL/Gulliver
Mitch Ford Nazareth F Sr. Victor, NY/Victor
Tyler Hart St. John Fisher G Sr. East Greenbush, NY/Columbia
Keegan Ryan St. John Fisher F/C Jr. Plattsburgh, NY/Beekmantown

Second Team
Tyler Seelman Alfred G Jr. Lorton, VA/Hayfield Secondary
Matt Wilson Hartwick C Sr. Shelton, CT/Westminster
Maurice Mills Nazareth F Sr. Utica, NY/Proctor
Tyler Stenglein Nazareth G So. Rochester, NY/Irondequoit
Evan Klimchak Stevens G Jr. Readington, NJ/Hunterdon

Honorable Mention (minimum three votes)

Gino Leonardi Elmira G Sr. Spencer, NY/Spencer – Van Etten
Joey Lufkin Hartwick G Jr. Argyle, NY/Argyle Central
Robert Tutein Utica G Sr. Nanuet, NY/Nanuet

Sportsman of the Year for each team

Nigel Herbert Alfred G Jr. Hillsborough, NJ/Hillsborough
Justin Henderson Elmira G Sr. Staten Island, NY/St. Joseph by the Sea
Glenn Gavan Hartwick G Sr. Newton, NJ/Pope John XXII
Tyler McQuaid Houghton C Sr. Lowman, NY/Twin Tiers Christian Academy
Matt Flood Ithaca G Fr. Cresskill, NJ/Cresskill
Tyler Stenglein Nazareth G So. Rochester, NY/Irondequoit
Alex Sausville St. John Fisher G So. Schenectady, NY/Scotia-Glenville
Alex Lorenz Stevens F Sr. Point Pleasant, NJ/Point Pleasant Borough
Robert Tutein Utica G Sr. Nanuet, NY/Nanuet

Great to see Nazareth College representing. Tremendous job by the coaching staff to get co staff of the year. Mitch Ford who has had an all american type year and should be region player of the year. Tyler Stenglein with a tremendous year as a Freshman. Along with Maurice and Tyler being 2nd team all league, and Mitch first team. Great year.

I believe it is an injury because i watched the utica game and he got hurt 1 minute into the game. Not sure how long as i have heard multiple reports.

Thank you for clarifying everything. I know not to use the d3hoops rankings but if the coaches and administrators trust they are that good than why shouldn't the NCAA ?

You are right Dave but I was going with what I thought the NCAA would do not my gut. but way to call me out LOL

its a great debate.

Good stuff and good explanation. It is a great debate

Quote from: sac on February 08, 2016, 12:31:50 AM
per the whole conversation about great records and poor SOS.  There are 4 of those types of teams to watch how they're ranked on Wednesday.

NE---Johnson & Wales    19-1    .455
E-----Lancaster Bible      17-0    .421
GL---John Carroll            21-0    .498
GL---PSU-Behrend         18-1     .418

It is baffling to me that a team in the East like Lancaster Bible doesn't get in over a team that has 6-7 losses. I mean if a team that is undefeated cant get into the rankings that tells me the NCAA has to go back to the drawing board and find different criteria. Another example Penn St Behrend a team who was 19-1 going into the rankings in the Great Lakes cant get into the top 9 in there region!! I just think its a bit ridiculous that NCAA is rewarding teams that have a bunch of losses over teams that win the games on there schedule.

I get the SOS factor but reward teams that win there games. Its not like these teams can just go join the NESCAC or UAA OR SUNYAC or other really good conferences.

Lancaster and Behrend also ranked top 15 and top 25 in the D3hoops poll.

rant over.

would love to here what people think