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#1
Men's soccer / Re: The Liberty League
December 19, 2012, 06:14:16 PM
Quote from: d3fan1 on December 15, 2012, 11:41:36 PM
Thanks Flying Weasel, your posts are always well thought out and informative.

Lapaz there is some bias in your post, but i think the bias is on your part for everything East. 2 of the three AA picks from the midwest were from loras who is the 2nd best team in the nation and came very close to being national champions. I suppose you think there should have been no selections from the midwest

YES - to both D3fan1 and FW.  And congrats to all who made NSCAA All American or Region or D3 AA.  Whether or not any of us in the peanut gallery think there are biases, it is a great honor.
#2
Men's soccer / Re: NESCAC
December 19, 2012, 06:07:49 PM
Quote from: LaPaz on December 15, 2012, 09:10:14 AM
my point was there were only 3 Nescac players chosen...one of them not the leading scorer Noon.  I am actually defensing Amherst. what does Williamstown have to do with anything...Aoyoma as defensive player of the year is a joke...he is a wingback.....if he was so good defensively he would be a center back. the reason Aoyoma is so good and why everyone likes watching him is because he gets forward as a wingback and causes havoc and goals. he is a converted wing midfielder. He also choked when called upon hitting 3rd in penalties aganist Williams and calmy stepped up and hit it WAY over and right of the net..Ur defensive player of the year should be just that a DEFENSIVE HARD NOSED CB. I dont think Aoyoma fits that bill, he is fun to watch though. Lerner is another wingback who was efficient at whacking the ball forward and his 15-20 long throws. Finan deserves it, no other Williams player really, maybe Rashid or even Ebobisse shouls have made 3rd team. They were key to their final four run. I am PRO NESCAC nothing to do with Williamstown...Ur point makes no sense anyway, which doesnt suprise me coming from ur previous 8 posts of dribble and making no sense.  The NSCAA all-americans actually make more sense and are more evenly divided...hate to say....Also, Coach of the year should be given to the Ohio Northern guy....for what he did to get that team to the Final is incredible.

So - the only defensive players to make All-American should be center backs  - ignore the outside players?  Look, I don't see enough teams/players to be knowledgeable enough to really know who should definitely make the team, much less POY, DPOY or OPOY, but certainly selecting the best TEAM should include all positions.

I would have said that the NSCAA was a bit biased toward the north/northeast on AA, and D3 corrected that bias a bit.  Same comment by positions - it seemed that they took a few more center mids/CB over wing players.  Also, looking solely at the stats, I certainly thought there were some very questionable choices by NSCAA as compared to D3.

Lastly - NESCAC got the numbers they deserved, or maybe a bit better.  The "best" conference in the country shouldn't get more than maybe 10% or so of the players.  The D3 AAs have 33 - 11 each for 1st, 2nd, 3rd teams.

One point we can agree on - the ON coach did a great job.  Just hard to argue that the Messiah guy didn't also do a great job.