Quote from: RFBredux on November 22, 2022, 01:54:24 PM

Quote from: Dr. Doolittle on November 22, 2022, 01:19:59 PM

Quote from: RFBredux on November 22, 2022, 12:40:38 PM

Quote from: olddog on November 22, 2022, 11:23:29 AM
I think one big fall out of Whittier dropping football will be does an up and coming coach want to get into D3 Football. I am sure they will find coaches but as an up and coming guy does this look promising in So Cal. Other than Chapman (50/50) ...the other schools are pretty woke and one AD or Pres away from dropping football. Look back at Oxy and WC,...were almost the same story.

What I love about Oxy and WC dropping football. They like to pretend to be open minded, liberal, equal opportunity...etc  (as long as its their Facebook Version)...Who did they hurt the most in my opinion....minority males. Football was a path for them to improve their lives maybe in a time when they need direction, wonder how many young men will fall off the map. Its sad.

St. Thomas made the jump from D3 to DI and just won the Pioneer League. I wonder if Redlands could make the transition as well. That would give the Pioneer League two universities in Southern California. Maybe Chapman could come with as well.

Chapman was D2 in 80's until early 90's when they changed from College to University and went down to D3, even though they grew in attendance and size.  Why would they consider D!?  St. Thomas was nudged out of MIAC because of dominance in all sports, except football, which the Johnies competed with them.  The comment about these schools being "woke" is spot on, and will make any program building difficult.  I am Chapman College athletic alumnus, and my son graduates this year from CLU.  These schools, the Claremont colleges, Oxy, are very "woke".

Chapman restarted their program in 1994. They were loaded with D1 transfers after Cal State Fullerton and Cal State Long Beach dropped their programs. I played against those teams, and they had no business being in D3 with that talent. We tied them 14-14 in 1994, and then were on the other side of lopsided wins in 1995 and 1996.

1994 was my senior season at Oxy.  We beat the D1 "bounce backs" 30-20.  It was one of my favorite memories on Patterson Field

Hell of a season.  Occidental College goes undefeated

Io Triumphe

Quote from: OxyBob on September 02, 2021, 01:23:06 PM

Quote from: Dr. Doolittle on September 02, 2021, 10:55:37 AM
Did not want to hurt your feelings Oxy Bob, sorry if I offended.

My feelings aren't hurt. Oxy football was killed by vendetta in 2012. It was declared brain dead and lingered on life support until the plug was pulled in 2020. RIP. The murderer went scot-free.

OxyBob

There were two murderers in 2012: the AD and the President. 

Quote from: olddog on November 11, 2020, 12:16:28 PM
RFB, Congrats on your daughter. I hope it all works out, my kids were in the top of their class too, multi sports, volunteered, etc...one tested out very well on the ACT...but our plans changed despite some offers.
You would be surprised, many small schools (NAIA and D3) offered merit based grants that paid quite a bit and made it close to UC school cost living on campus.

My daughter is junior at Oxy and we are paying less per year there than we would have at a UC

Just a brief thought on the passing of Oxy football.  When the school sent out information on the final four candidates for the AD position, I knew there was going to be an issue.  The final four candidates were all women (not a problem, but image if it were all men, the outrage).  Three of the four were coming from schools with football programs (guess which one they hired?  Not one of the three). 
One was from a D1 school. One was from Pomona.  One was a former coach, athletic admin, and interim AD from Oxy.  None of those three were hired.  Now, I have no idea how well they interviewed, but they had two candidates with knowledge of the SCIAC.  Both of them know how hard it is to recruit athletes for a top academic school.  However, they were not hired. 
Could either of them stopped this?  No.  This was on the list of the Board for many years. 

Quote from: RFB on November 14, 2019, 11:23:41 PM

Quote from: Gray Fox on November 14, 2019, 10:20:45 PM

Quote from: DuffMan on November 14, 2019, 08:31:56 PM
So Chapman is the St. Thomas of the SCIAC?

Exactly. 
They would have been accepted as members earlier, but they ran up the score with D1 players that had come to them when Cal State Fullerton dropped football.  The other SCIAC members made them calm down.  If they start winning too much in all sports because they have 10,000 students, they may have to join St. Thomas.

I played against those Chapman teams. They had transfers from Long Beach State too. We tied them 14-14 the first year they had all those transfers in 1994. Bunch of **** talkers, all of them.

I also played them in 1994 (my senior season).  We beat them 30-20

Nice little story on a former LaVerne coach
https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/27595270/no-2-origin-story-takeaway-pencil

Quote from: Gray Fox on September 08, 2019, 06:02:05 PM

Quote from: OxyBob on September 08, 2019, 05:29:00 PM
Oxy 38 CETYS University 7

Oxy played an exhibition game against CETYS University from Mexicali, Mexico. The Tigers are so desperate for a win that they touted the victory as their "home opener" and show their record as 1-0. Oxy even wrote this:

"The Tigers are now 2-0 all-time against their Mexican rival after winning in Mexico 20-0 last season."

Rival. Two exhibition wins and CETYS is Oxy's rival. So now Oxy's traditional rivals are:

Pomona
Whittier
Redlands
CETYS University of Mexicali, Mexico

Patético.

OxyBob

La Verne already lost to them in Mexicali 34-13.  Was it the water?

https://leopardathletics.com/sports/fball/2019-20/schedule

That does not bode well for the Leopards.  The Mexicali team was not good. 

Quote from: Jack Parkman on August 23, 2019, 12:38:07 AM

Quote from: OxyBob on August 22, 2019, 03:27:34 PM

Quote from: 10Freeway on August 22, 2019, 02:19:51 PM
Any camp news in the SCIAC?  Oxy and Whittier have enough guys in camp?

Does that look like enough?

https://twitter.com/oxy_football/status/1163602623913701378

OxyBob

I "counted" around 47, with more possibly being blocked. 

Also, those new uniforms are U G L Y.

The current roster has over 60 guys on it.
https://www.oxyathletics.com/sports/fball/2019-20/roster
And yes, the uniforms are UGLY

Quote from: Jack Parkman on August 11, 2019, 07:45:14 PM

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Quote from: 10Freeway on August 06, 2019, 02:33:47 PM
Looks like Garces Memorial HS in Bakersfield is a better job than Occidental.  Sad times in Tigerville.

https://twitter.com/coachcoleman_?lang=en

Here is the replacement.  https://www.linkedin.com/in/paul-herbes-2ba01172

Bringing in a kid with 1 whole year of coaching experience (maybe not even 1 season) to be the OC?  Looks like Oxy is ready to light up the scoreboard this year....

Now he is only listed as the offensive line coach.
https://www.oxyathletics.com/sports/fball/herbes?view=bio

Quote from: 10Freeway on August 06, 2019, 02:33:47 PM
Looks like Garces Memorial HS in Bakersfield is a better job than Occidental.  Sad times in Tigerville.

https://twitter.com/coachcoleman_?lang=en

Here is the replacement.  https://www.linkedin.com/in/paul-herbes-2ba01172

Quote from: Gray Fox on July 16, 2019, 04:20:42 PM

Quote from: Oxy1995 on July 16, 2019, 02:23:10 PM

Quote from: olddog on July 03, 2019, 12:08:13 PM

Quote from: Gray Fox on July 02, 2019, 10:11:03 PM
Where did the last guy go?

No idea, I checked social media and nada. I know both Oxy and Whittier were looking for position coach but an OC...this late in the game, post spring ball.

Here is the link to the info on hiring a new OC for Oxy (deadline has passed)
https://www.oxy.edu/sites/default/files/assets/HR/Salaried/athletics_assistant_track_coach_june32015.pdf

Interesting not at the end of the job opening
"Knowledge of, and commitment to option football is preferred".  Looks like they want to stick with last year's offense (hopefully with a better grasp of what it means to be an option team)

Maybe it has to do with the available talent.
Army has done quite well using the option.

I am actually a fan of the option attack.  However, to do it right, you need a strong commitment to running it.  Last year's team was very tepid in the commitment to running the ball.  On the flip side, it is hard to keep a commitment to running the ball when your defense gives up so many points

Quote from: olddog on July 03, 2019, 12:08:13 PM

Quote from: Gray Fox on July 02, 2019, 10:11:03 PM
Where did the last guy go?

No idea, I checked social media and nada. I know both Oxy and Whittier were looking for position coach but an OC...this late in the game, post spring ball.

Here is the link to the info on hiring a new OC for Oxy (deadline has passed)
https://www.oxy.edu/sites/default/files/assets/HR/Salaried/athletics_assistant_track_coach_june32015.pdf

Interesting not at the end of the job opening
"Knowledge of, and commitment to option football is preferred".  Looks like they want to stick with last year's offense (hopefully with a better grasp of what it means to be an option team)

Quote from: Gray Fox on November 29, 2018, 04:05:34 PM
Sounds like UR has hired the former Oxy AD.

That is a pox to wish upon no man.

Quote from: olddog on November 27, 2018, 11:16:03 AM

Quote from: DFWCrufan on November 26, 2018, 12:44:47 PM
I would disagree old dog honestly, I am asking what is keeping SCIAC, ANY Sciac from being competitive beyond the AQ they get for winning a conference? That should be the question, Financials? if the school is pricing students out then they should fail, UR/ Chappie/ Oxy etc etc are not the only schools around and I would disagree with the coaches being interchangeable outright!
Are these guys neck deep working to draw seniors? or like I had pointed out, is it, Hey your coming here (Insert school name) come and play football? the financials for students are no different here then elsewhere, I would bet NCAA would be all over that right? so what keeps ANY SCIAC program from moving beyond the obligatory AQ? If the coaches were interchangeable then SCIAC  should be well represented, second even third round?

Look, I'd love to see Redlands do well, I have an affinity for them, my daughter was born there and I played against them as a kid, but we have to be honest, what keeps them, any of them, going beyond one?

I respect your position but disagree. Thinking coaches are smarter or work harder is humorous to me, knowing Mike Maynard.... Other than an occasional really good team due to a couple players getting under recruited by the big boys, the SCIAC will always be the SCIAC. I have outlined the reasons in past post and other have done an good job too. Cost, JC programs are huge here and suck up players ( I recognize many could not get in but a few can and some of UR best kids have been JC transfer lately) and lastly in short the schools admin really do not care as much as MHB. Football is now being played to meet a check the box for potential new students and keep the alumni donating. Heck UR dropped the GA program because its cheaper to hire part time old HS coaches. We have over 130 kids come out to play football yet the school does not want a JV program, now that you are in and paid your fees, thank you.

At one time, Occidental had a great GA program.  I worked as a GA and they paid for my Masters.  That is much more expensive compared to a part-time position coach