Quote from: faunch on July 31, 2020, 03:42:17 PM

Quote from: MiacMan on July 31, 2020, 03:02:11 PM

Quote from: faunch on July 31, 2020, 01:02:01 PM
I'm hoping SJU puts the video of the 2003 season online. I'd even pay $10 per game to watch it.
Sure they could raise some💰 if they could figure out a way to stream it through Stretch.

Faunchy,

I'll get you the 2003 Mac game for $50 and a case of Milwaukee's Best Light! If you act fast I'll throw in a ticket to UST's inaugural D1 football game!

That would be beyond amazing considering that MAC bailed on the MIAC after the 2001 season.
In 2003 the Johnnies filled MAC's absence by playing Clown 🤡 I mean Crown College.

Yikes, you're right! And I was there! This Covid thing is really getting to me! The second part still applies though, Tommie Tix? 

Quote from: faunch on July 31, 2020, 01:02:01 PM
I'm hoping SJU puts the video of the 2003 season online. I'd even pay $10 per game to watch it.
Sure they could raise some💰 if they could figure out a way to stream it through Stretch.

Faunchy,

I'll get you the 2003 Mac game for $50 and a case of Milwaukee's Best Light! If you act fast I'll throw in a ticket to UST's inaugural D1 football game!

Quote from: jamtod on July 27, 2020, 08:41:53 PM

Quote from: MiacMan on July 27, 2020, 08:33:04 PM

Quote from: jamtod on July 27, 2020, 06:57:17 PM

Quote from: MiacMan on July 27, 2020, 06:29:05 PM

Quote from: jamtod on July 27, 2020, 05:31:00 PM

Quote from: Johns Knees on July 27, 2020, 05:20:34 PM

Quote from: DuffMan on July 24, 2020, 11:17:23 PM
Not surprised in the least.  From the Star Tribune:

QuoteThe Minnesota Intercollegiate Athletic Conference plans to postpone competition in several fall sports until the spring, sources told the Star Tribune on Friday.

Some coaches and athletes have been told that football, volleyball and soccer are among the sports that will switched from this fall to the spring if the NCAA and public health officials allows it. Golf and tennis are likely to be played this fall.

MIAC Commissioner Dan McKane did not confirm the changes. He said via e-mail Friday that the league is "working through all details'' of a fall sports plan and will announce its decision Tuesday afternoon.

Several Division III leagues have announced the postponement or cancellation of fall sports in recent weeks as COVID-19 continues to spread. Last Tuesday, the NCAA Division III Management Council recommended the cancellation of all fall sports championships. The NCAA's Board of Governors met Friday to consider that recommendation in all divisions, but it put off that decision until next month.

Last week, the MIAC canceled nonconference competition in fall sports. Carleton, one league member, announced July 10 it would cancel all fall sports. Carleton also is postponing competition in winter and spring sports until after the fall academic term.

Uncertainty abounds as college teams scramble to find games
The D-3 Management Council approved a proposal this week to allow schools and conferences to move or extend fall sports practices and competition into the spring.

Under the proposal, playing seasons would be defined by the number of days, not weeks, and those days would not have to be in consecutive weeks.

"Flexibility will be imperative,'' Management Council chair Heather Benning said in a statement. "These are unprecedented times."

Reusse said on the radio today MIAC football will play a five game schedule next spring. I assume that means SJU will play everyone in their new Northwoods division plus the conference championship/crossover week? Anyone else heard anything about that?

I don't see how the divisions would have any bearing on spring games. The divisions include Mac and Scholastica and don't include UST, so they are worthless for this season.

You can be sure UST and SJU will play each other, if any games are scheduled and actually happen.

Going to be a mess though.

My best guess is that we saw our last Johnnie/Tommie Football game. UST's fall sports will be preparing for the 2021 seasons in their new respective leagues during the spring of 2021. I'm guessing the UST's fall sports teams will be allowed a full non-traditional (Spring) season as allowed at the D1 level and within their respective conference rules. Just my guess (no inside info. yet)

If they have a chance to play a few games to supplement the spring practice schedule, I don't see why they wouldn't. Give a better idea what the depth looks like as I suspect these games will be like glorified scrimmages in many cases.

It's possible but, only if the Pioneer Conference would allow them to play games. Also, how would that effect red shirting? The only scenario I see possible is if they could get some sort of waiver to play SJU as their spring game as opposed to a purple/gray game. It's a long shot though.

Wasn't really considering that Pioneer League would have impact on spring ball before the fall where we officially join D1, but that's a possibility.

I can almost assure you that as of January 1st, 2021, all fall sports at UST will be bound to the rules and regulations of the Summit League and the Pioneer League for their respective sports that will participate in those leagues for fall semester 2021.

Quote from: jamtod on July 27, 2020, 06:57:17 PM

Quote from: MiacMan on July 27, 2020, 06:29:05 PM

Quote from: jamtod on July 27, 2020, 05:31:00 PM

Quote from: Johns Knees on July 27, 2020, 05:20:34 PM

Quote from: DuffMan on July 24, 2020, 11:17:23 PM
Not surprised in the least.  From the Star Tribune:

QuoteThe Minnesota Intercollegiate Athletic Conference plans to postpone competition in several fall sports until the spring, sources told the Star Tribune on Friday.

Some coaches and athletes have been told that football, volleyball and soccer are among the sports that will switched from this fall to the spring if the NCAA and public health officials allows it. Golf and tennis are likely to be played this fall.

MIAC Commissioner Dan McKane did not confirm the changes. He said via e-mail Friday that the league is "working through all details'' of a fall sports plan and will announce its decision Tuesday afternoon.

Several Division III leagues have announced the postponement or cancellation of fall sports in recent weeks as COVID-19 continues to spread. Last Tuesday, the NCAA Division III Management Council recommended the cancellation of all fall sports championships. The NCAA's Board of Governors met Friday to consider that recommendation in all divisions, but it put off that decision until next month.

Last week, the MIAC canceled nonconference competition in fall sports. Carleton, one league member, announced July 10 it would cancel all fall sports. Carleton also is postponing competition in winter and spring sports until after the fall academic term.

Uncertainty abounds as college teams scramble to find games
The D-3 Management Council approved a proposal this week to allow schools and conferences to move or extend fall sports practices and competition into the spring.

Under the proposal, playing seasons would be defined by the number of days, not weeks, and those days would not have to be in consecutive weeks.

"Flexibility will be imperative,'' Management Council chair Heather Benning said in a statement. "These are unprecedented times."

Reusse said on the radio today MIAC football will play a five game schedule next spring. I assume that means SJU will play everyone in their new Northwoods division plus the conference championship/crossover week? Anyone else heard anything about that?

I don't see how the divisions would have any bearing on spring games. The divisions include Mac and Scholastica and don't include UST, so they are worthless for this season.

You can be sure UST and SJU will play each other, if any games are scheduled and actually happen.

Going to be a mess though.

My best guess is that we saw our last Johnnie/Tommie Football game. UST's fall sports will be preparing for the 2021 seasons in their new respective leagues during the spring of 2021. I'm guessing the UST's fall sports teams will be allowed a full non-traditional (Spring) season as allowed at the D1 level and within their respective conference rules. Just my guess (no inside info. yet)

If they have a chance to play a few games to supplement the spring practice schedule, I don't see why they wouldn't. Give a better idea what the depth looks like as I suspect these games will be like glorified scrimmages in many cases.

It's possible but, only if the Pioneer Conference would allow them to play games. Also, how would that effect red shirting? The only scenario I see possible is if they could get some sort of waiver to play SJU as their spring game as opposed to a purple/gray game. It's a long shot though.

Quote from: jamtod on July 27, 2020, 05:31:00 PM

Quote from: Johns Knees on July 27, 2020, 05:20:34 PM

Quote from: DuffMan on July 24, 2020, 11:17:23 PM
Not surprised in the least.  From the Star Tribune:

QuoteThe Minnesota Intercollegiate Athletic Conference plans to postpone competition in several fall sports until the spring, sources told the Star Tribune on Friday.

Some coaches and athletes have been told that football, volleyball and soccer are among the sports that will switched from this fall to the spring if the NCAA and public health officials allows it. Golf and tennis are likely to be played this fall.

MIAC Commissioner Dan McKane did not confirm the changes. He said via e-mail Friday that the league is "working through all details'' of a fall sports plan and will announce its decision Tuesday afternoon.

Several Division III leagues have announced the postponement or cancellation of fall sports in recent weeks as COVID-19 continues to spread. Last Tuesday, the NCAA Division III Management Council recommended the cancellation of all fall sports championships. The NCAA's Board of Governors met Friday to consider that recommendation in all divisions, but it put off that decision until next month.

Last week, the MIAC canceled nonconference competition in fall sports. Carleton, one league member, announced July 10 it would cancel all fall sports. Carleton also is postponing competition in winter and spring sports until after the fall academic term.

Uncertainty abounds as college teams scramble to find games
The D-3 Management Council approved a proposal this week to allow schools and conferences to move or extend fall sports practices and competition into the spring.

Under the proposal, playing seasons would be defined by the number of days, not weeks, and those days would not have to be in consecutive weeks.

"Flexibility will be imperative,'' Management Council chair Heather Benning said in a statement. "These are unprecedented times."

Reusse said on the radio today MIAC football will play a five game schedule next spring. I assume that means SJU will play everyone in their new Northwoods division plus the conference championship/crossover week? Anyone else heard anything about that?

I don't see how the divisions would have any bearing on spring games. The divisions include Mac and Scholastica and don't include UST, so they are worthless for this season.

You can be sure UST and SJU will play each other, if any games are scheduled and actually happen.

Going to be a mess though.

My best guess is that we saw our last Johnnie/Tommie Football game. UST's fall sports will be preparing for the 2021 seasons in their new respective leagues during the spring of 2021. I'm guessing the UST's fall sports teams will be allowed a full non-traditional (Spring) season as allowed at the D1 level and within their respective conference rules. Just my guess (no inside info. yet)

Quote from: faunch on July 17, 2020, 02:24:05 AM

Quote from: MiacMan on July 16, 2020, 10:34:34 PM

Quote from: MadRedFan on July 16, 2020, 09:45:06 PM

Quote from: MiacMan on July 16, 2020, 07:08:12 PM
I'm guessing the Tommies won't care either way, whether they play this year or not. Everybody redshirts if they don't play. If they do play, the coaches find out who they can use on their future roster. Win-win. Also, Fyi, Missouri Valley is not far off, and they'll be playing the Gophs in Non-Con within 10yrs. You heard it here first.

I'm not sure why arguably the best FCS conference in the country would be so eager to add a DIII school, maybe I'm wrong.  Guess we'll find out.

For a Twin Cities presence. And yes, there will be some long afternoons at TCF but, big paydays, the kind that help build programs.

U$T = Football 🏈 irrelevance the next 10+ years.
Mark my words...TCF will have a Red Out when the Tommie$ cross river to get bitch slapped for $$$!

That would be fine. I am sure UST would love to scoop up more Johnnie $$$! Talk about having your cake and eating too! We could all party at Faunchie's before the games!

Quote from: MadRedFan on July 16, 2020, 09:45:06 PM

Quote from: MiacMan on July 16, 2020, 07:08:12 PM
I'm guessing the Tommies won't care either way, whether they play this year or not. Everybody redshirts if they don't play. If they do play, the coaches find out who they can use on their future roster. Win-win. Also, Fyi, Missouri Valley is not far off, and they'll be playing the Gophs in Non-Con within 10yrs. You heard it here first.

I'm not sure why arguably the best FCS conference in the country would be so eager to add a DIII school, maybe I'm wrong.  Guess we'll find out.

For a Twin Cities presence. And yes, there will be some long afternoons at TCF but, big paydays, the kind that help build programs.

I'm guessing the Tommies won't care either way, whether they play this year or not. Everybody redshirts if they don't play. If they do play, the coaches find out who they can use on their future roster. Win-win. Also, Fyi, Missouri Valley is not far off, and they'll be playing the Gophs in Non-Con within 10yrs. You heard it here first.

Quote from: DuffMan on February 18, 2020, 10:27:41 AM

Quote from: skunks_sidekick on February 17, 2020, 10:39:21 PM
Humble way for Duff to brag about his son.

Well, yeah, you've got to!

Actually, that was a pretty cool story Duff. Although one of us would have asked for the outcome if you hadn't told us. 

Quote from: Reverend MIAC, PhD on February 16, 2020, 09:58:52 PM
So we can all agree that the Tommie/Johnnie rivalry is something special. There's been plenty of talk about who might become Tommie rivals in D1. However, there hasn't been as much talk about who the Johnnies' primary rival in the MIAC might be going forward. Bethel makes sense for football, but maybe not across a broader range of sports. Thoughts?

REV

Interesting question to ponder...Bethel would be the obvious challenger not just for football as they have made strides in all sports and I would guess they will continue this path especially as now they are kind-of the big kid on the block as far as the metro is concerned. I would keep my eye on the Auggies though. I really like the hire of Darren Lamker and believe he will make some noise in the not so distant future. I'm guessing money is their biggest obstacle, which is a huge factor to overcome. The Gusties certainly have the resources and history/tradition to return to their glory days. Those are the only three schools I consider to have a chance to step up and potentially challenge the Jays athletically. The real question will be whether or not the Jays take their foot off the gas pedal and allow for a successful charge with no longer having the need to out-duel the Tommies.

As for the Tommies, it all depends on where they land. They are advertising for development/fund raising positions in the Athletic Department right now. With all of the sports committed to the Summit League (exceptions: Football, M & W Hockey), I will go out on a limb and say they will immediately go after NDSU as a target (although, I believe they'll be a punching bag for the first two years) As far as football goes, assuming they start in the Pioneer league, I would guess due to proximity and situation as far as Augustana is concerned, it will be Drake and Augustana. However don't be surprised to see them schedule NDSU and or SDSU within 5yrs because I am quite certain the Missouri Valley Conference is the fast track they are aiming for.

Quote from: OzJohnnie on February 12, 2020, 03:25:43 PM
The average price of a Vikings ticket last year was $190. I wonder at what discount from that this game will run?  Half?  I imagine the stadium will give SJU a fixed, guaranteed payout and then handle the pricing themselves as SJU people would have no way to judge pricing elasticity in these circumstances.

Well, it will be an utter sea of red. That will be impressive.

Look, if this game finances an improvement in the video broadcast then I can swallow my pride and ride on the money train.

My biggest regret is that we forever lose the argument that the Tommies are greedy money gougers who exploit the Johnnie Army for crass, financial gain. Obviously, the Tommies are and will forever remain empty, soulless voids but this nice argument has been destroyed forever. Although it is pleasing to think that the biggest game, likely the biggest two or maybe even more games, the Tommies ever play will be back against a pissy little D3 school.  The fact that 25 years from now when fresh Tommie recruits are considering the school and looking at the 1500 average attendance with a wistful look on their face when they wonder what it was like back in the old days against the Johnnies will be so, so pleasing.

25 years from now the Tommies will still be selling out US Bank Stadium (their shared home with the MN Vikings) Only it will be against the likes of Ohio State, Michigan, Penn State and their new in-state rival the Gophers! Maybe SJ2 can pack the natural bowl and sort of continue the rivalry with an annual game against the UST freshmen 

Quote from: MUC57 on February 12, 2020, 08:57:19 AM

The schedule shows U$T @ SJU. This game HAS to be in Collegeville.
If that's truly the case, this old Mount Union guy would really love to get there. It would be a long shot, but damn, I'd try like hell to make it!
This WOULD be the end of an era.
I have always wished we had a rivalry like this.
I realize there would be a probable seat shortage but, as was mentioned earlier, bring in temporary bleachers, folding chairs, anything.
The game of the year in Dlll. Ya gotta love it!
Go Johnnies! And, for the last(?) time, Go Tommies! 🏈 🍺 ‼️

Muc my friend if you make it, I will see to it that your hand will never be void of a Milwaukee's Best!

Quote from: hazzben on February 03, 2020, 04:13:24 PM

Quote from: MiacMan on February 03, 2020, 02:02:24 PM

Quote from: OzJohnnie on February 03, 2020, 01:12:32 PM
Another Bartch interview, this one from the Bengals.  If well-manered-and-cured-in-Minnesota is a draft criteria then he's a first rounder.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eGbikpCoIHI

He did a nice job in this interview. I didn't realize that he didn't get the chance to play in the game due to injury. That more than likely will hurt him more than help. Many of these Big10/SEC/ACC guys play at two different speeds (not necessarily consciously either) practice speed and game speed. Good NFL lineman are hard to come by though. Obviously, the Vikings would be well suited to snap him up in the 3rd/4th round. Lord knows they need help in the O-line. Plus it would be nice to see him in Purple!

General rule of thumb for Olineman, and WR's/DB's at the Senior Bowl is that practice reps are much more valuable than the game. Reason being, for Oline for instance, the drills are much more difficult to excel in than a game situation where you have a guard or TE blocking and RB behind you. The reps are just straight solo vs a Dlineman ... major advantage to the Dline in these instances.

Conversely, the RB's practice reps are regarded as very low value, vs. seeing what they do in the game.

That's a reasonable way to view it, especially regarding the RB's. The only, caution I would state is that in a game the O-linemen have a lot more things/keys/reads to think about, while for the most part the drill and the game stays the same for D-linemen.

Quote from: OzJohnnie on February 03, 2020, 01:12:32 PM
Another Bartch interview, this one from the Bengals.  If well-manered-and-cured-in-Minnesota is a draft criteria then he's a first rounder.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eGbikpCoIHI

He did a nice job in this interview. I didn't realize that he didn't get the chance to play in the game due to injury. That more than likely will hurt him more than help. Many of these Big10/SEC/ACC guys play at two different speeds (not necessarily consciously either) practice speed and game speed. Good NFL lineman are hard to come by though. Obviously, the Vikings would be well suited to snap him up in the 3rd/4th round. Lord knows they need help in the O-line. Plus it would be nice to see him in Purple!

Quote from: Texas Ole on January 25, 2020, 11:44:57 AMI think St. Catherine only leaves if it merges with St. Thomas.

The UST/STC merger is inevitable but, it's probably 5-10 years out.

From one of my better sources, it sounds like there wasn't a ton of specifics established for the path for UST to D1, but it was made very clear that the NCAA wants this move to happen and will establish a path based specifically on UST's profile.