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#1
Region 1 men's basketball / Re: NESCAC MBB
February 22, 2014, 07:28:03 PM
shout out Middlebury SID for the highlight video add-on to the game recap. Enjoyed that
http://www.middlebury.edu/athletics/sports/mensbasketball/archive/2013-2014/news/node/469981

#2
Region 1 men's basketball / Re: NESCAC MBB
November 25, 2013, 02:38:12 PM
Saw Tufts squeak out a win on Saturday against a surprisingly decent Wentworth squad. Wentworth built a huge first-half lead, but eventually fell to a deeper and more talented Jumbo group. The real reason for my post, though, is really just to point out how impressed I was by the play of FY Center Hunter Sabety. Barring injury, it looks like he will be the best Tufts player to come along in a long, long time (or at least the best since Jon "AgentZero" Pierce).

Sabety has "Future All-American" written all over him. A real throwback of a big man: doesn't shy away from physical play (in fact, he excelled as the game became more physical in the second half (although it was admittedly against a relatively weaker opponent)), takes what the defense gives him, runs the floor hard in transition.

The highlights of the game for me were his flashes of potential-- showing off an array of post moves and over-the-rim finishes. He impressed in half-court sets from the block and was equally impressive running the floor in transition. He has a big, sturdy frame with plenty of room to add weight to (although he is already bigger than most big men his height, or close to it, at this level), and shows a bit of a mean streak when battling for rebounds/positioning.. which you just love to see as a coach and is a rarity in a FY big man. His size and length coupled with that high motor will soon make him one of the best D3 big men in the country, IMO, I think sooner rather than later.

If I was a gambling man, I'd say he is your CAC ROY this season and a First Team All-NESCAC guy by next year. Looking forward to league play to see how he stacks up against some other guys his size, but for me, based on first impressions, this kid lives up to the hype, and then some.
#3
Region 1 men's basketball / Re: NESCAC MBB
April 10, 2013, 04:32:58 PM
Quote from: lefrakenstein on April 10, 2013, 02:43:16 PM
I cant even find an Insider Recruiting News website anywhere online. Also weird that it's the first post. Also, @aol.com? What millennium are we in?

sounds like his dad to me..
#4
Region 1 men's basketball / Re: NESCAC MBB
March 29, 2013, 04:19:27 PM
Panthernation is on another level
#5
Region 1 men's basketball / Re: NESCAC MBB
March 21, 2013, 09:53:34 AM
As I was reading through the poll response choices regarding Mr. Sager's data being posted on every page, I was waiting to come to "no" as selection option. What kind of poll offers 3 variations of a "Yes" response?
#6
Region 1 men's basketball / Re: NESCAC MBB
March 18, 2013, 01:46:12 PM
Quote from: nescac1 on March 18, 2013, 07:11:30 AM
Lots more good comparison.  Lynch-Z-Bo is dead-on.  I will also co-sign on Klemm/Korver, Green/J.R. Smith and Killian/Dudley.  For Kalema, I'd say Eric Bledsoe. 

For Nate Robertson, gotta be young Jason Kidd ... a big, penetrating, pass-first point guard who gets a lot of steals and has a questionable jumper. 

A few more for some Ephs of yore:
Harlan Dodson -- Steve Novak
Chuck Abba -- Dan Majerle
Geoff Chapin -- Patrick Ewing

While he's not (yet) an NBA player, I bet that Dave Paulsen would endorse a Mike Muscala / Ben Coffin comparison.  Muscala is basically Coffin with two more inches, a bit more athleticism, and more shooting range.  Although of course Coffin was a lot more dominant in D-3 than Muscala will be in the NBA.  So he's more like the Coffin of D-1. 

Guys for whom there seems to be no poor man's version from NESCAC lore ... not surprising given how unusual their games are/were: Lebron, Jordan, Magic, Durant, Garnett, Olajuwon.

Agree with you on a young Jason Kidd being a more accurate comparison for Nate Robertson. Would also like to redact my Toomey/Steph Curry comparison- in favor of Mahmoud Abdul-Rauf, who, politics aside, was one of the most dynamic and underrated NBA combo guards of the 1990's. If you have a minute or two, watch a little of this video. Lots of similarities to the way Toomey makes decisions after the using the high ball screen to initiate Amherst's offense.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e93l5so7f9s&feature=player_embedded

Additionally, in a previous post, I likened Colby's Adam Choice to a NESCAC version of Kevin Durant. This comparison may be overly complimentary of Choice's skill set, but, in defense of my logic, I can't think of a player from the past 10 or so years that has come close to possessing Choice's combination of comparatively (that is to say, comparatively: in the sense of comparing Choice's game to his 'CAC contemporaries, during this 10-15 year time period) elite level size for his position (the 3), length, athleticism, and overall scoring ability-- all while doing the bulk of his damage as a "perimeter scorer," as opposed to a guy that possesses similarly described physical tools, but does most of his damage operating from the interior block. The only other players that immediately come to mind that fit this mold during this period are both Lord Jeffs- Fletcher Walters and Brain Bauskaskas, but I'll take Choice over those guys if all 3 are still left on the All Time 'CAC Draft Big Board.

My knowledge of NESCAC hoops is not as vast and historical as some of the board's other seasoned veteran posters, so unfortunately, I would know very few names of conference players prior to 10-15 years ago. With that being said, please excuse me while I continue to entertain myself....

With the fist overall pick in the Historically Comparative 1998-2013 'CAC Draft, (___) selects....

IMO- You have to go with one of the great Bigs.. Coffin, Zieja. Stone, Rhoten, Cohen, Whittington, Sharry, Locke, Mayer
..But maybe your preference and managerial style calls for you to build your team from the Guard up (see what I did there?): a la Olson, Crotty, Rudin, Zak Ray, Schultz, Toomey, Kizel, or maybe a more versatile scorer like Schiel, Wheeler, Schultz, Choice, or Workman? All great players in their own right, and an argument could be made for most of them.

I think the answer has to be Troy Whittington-- just way too many "man amongst boys" and "Holy Moses" types of flashes/performances. Just a beast, plain and simple. And.. in case you couldn't tell, I enjoy this exercise.


#7
Region 1 men's basketball / Re: NESCAC MBB
March 18, 2013, 12:36:29 AM
Thanks for compliment, Old Guy and nescac1. I picked my comparisons for the top 7 on each of the 3 'CAC teams headed to Salem.

Williams
Nate Robertson- Shaun Livingston/George Gervin
James Klemm- Kyle Korver
Daniel Wohl- Gordon Hayward
Taylor Epley- Paul Pierce/Jeff Green
Michael Mayer- Kevin McHale
John Weinheimer- Tayshaun Prince
Sean Hoffman- Josh McRoberts/Vince Carter (he gets a VC drop, because, as the kids say, Sean has "stupid hops")

Middlebury
Jake Wolfin- Ricky Rubio/Jamal/Jordan Crawford
Joey Kizel- Mark Price
Nolan Thompson- Thabo Sefolosha/Gary Payton
Peter Lynch- Zach Randolph
Jack Roberts- Luke Longley
James Jenson- John Henson
Hunter Merryman- Ryan Anderson

Amherst
Aaron Toomie- Steph Curry
Tom Killian- Jared Dudley
Allen Williamson- Vince Carter
Willy Workman- Michael Kidd-Gilchrist/Lamar Odom (Odom during a good year)
Peter Kaasila- Kendrick Perkins/Shaquille O'Neal (like, sort of on the Shaq half)
Connor Green- J.R. Smith (get your ink game right, Connor!)
David Kalema-Nate Robinson

It is sure to be an exciting weekend in Salem. I'm Hoping that after the weekend in Salem, the games result in a NESCAC school in the title game in Atlanta, or, even better, 2 'CAC teams. But, as any coach would tell you, every team has work to do in Salem before they can even begin to think about ATL. But, as a fan, I can daydream without guilt of the prospects of 2 NESCAC teams competing for the National Championship on a national stage during arguably the biggest American "basketball weekend" of the year. And that would be really cool. May the best team win. 3 more...
#8
Region 1 men's basketball / Re: NESCAC MBB
March 17, 2013, 10:14:27 PM
Long time reader, first time poster. The NESCAC/NBA player comparisons caught my attention and drew me in, and I wanted to throw some names out there. Some of nescac1 and walzy's comparisons I like, for others, I think there are more accurate playing style comparisons.
Hypothetical "poor man" NBA player comparison discussions is one of my favorite activities (I should put that on my match.com profile), so I enjoyed brainstorming on some of these guys. Here's my list, with some carry over and some differences of opinion, and a few additions.

Toomey- Steph Curry
Sharry- Tim Duncan
Rudin- Nick van Exel
Wang- Isiah Thomas
Schultz- Reggie Miller
Kizel- Mark Price

And a few others ..

Jon Pierce- Carmelo Anthony
Charles Stone- Charles Barkley
Drew Weitzen- Oliver Miller/Glen Davis (but way more Glen Davis)
Drew Cohen- Pervis Ellison (c. 1989 Louisville)
Demetrius Porter- Josh Smith
Chris Geohegan- Marc Gasol
Fletcher Walters- Dirk Nowitzki
Zak Ray- Kemba Walker
Rob Stockwell- Brandon Bass
Connor Meehan- Manu Ginobili
Chris Rose- Danilo Galinari
Aaron Smith- Al Jefferson
Andrew Harris- JJ Redick
Tim Edwards- Bruce Bowen
Chris Shalvoy- Jose Calderon
Adam Choice- Kevin Durant
Mike Russell- Nate Thurmond