Quote from: Westside on May 14, 2015, 12:33:23 PM

Quote from: Johnny Wholestaff on May 14, 2015, 12:24:32 PM

Quote from: Westside on May 14, 2015, 12:15:42 PM

Quote from: Johnny Wholestaff on May 14, 2015, 12:06:56 PM
I'm against it too, but it is no different than what Brosius did with Haddeland two years ago in the Regional. Was Brosius negligent then?

The two situations are similar, but you can't say they are the same.

For Gray:
Day 1: 70 pitches (guessing)
Day 2: 70 pitches (guessing)

In 2013, for Haddeland, it was:
Day 1: 112 pitches
Day 2: 0 pitches
Day 3: 19 pitches
Day 4: 63 pitches

So Haddeland never started back to back days. He had a day off after his start and then came in in relief two days in a row.

That's a fair point about the off day, but I don't think it is fair say it fair to call what Gray did "starting back-to-back day", since it was the same game and he threw 3+ innings the second day. That is more like coming back out of the bullpen. Per the live stats he threw 126 total, so 56 today. IF he is done for the tournament (and the tournament finishes on time), I'm not sure it is fair to say one is fine and one is bad. Both are not ideal, but I would bet both wanted the ball and it's hard to say no to your number one.

Solid points. To be fair, I never said the Haddeland situation was fine, just different. I guess if I was Trinity, I don't understand why I would've wanted him to re-start this game. If they don't bring him in, he can likely come back later in the tournament a la Haddeland in 2013. Besides it being likely not good for the arm, it just seemed like a waste while facing an impotent offense.

In other words, I would rather have Gray available to pitch the regional championship game instead of burning him on day two to win a game that was in hand already. It would be better for his arm and for the team!

Yeah, that would be the primary reason why I was against it. That said I never feel safe against Linfield, so making sure the go to the loser's bracket is nice. I have some experience with them...

Quote from: Westside on May 14, 2015, 12:15:42 PM

Quote from: Johnny Wholestaff on May 14, 2015, 12:06:56 PM
I'm against it too, but it is no different than what Brosius did with Haddeland two years ago in the Regional. Was Brosius negligent then?

The two situations are similar, but you can't say they are the same.

For Gray:
Day 1: 70 pitches (guessing)
Day 2: 70 pitches (guessing)

In 2013, for Haddeland, it was:
Day 1: 112 pitches
Day 2: 0 pitches
Day 3: 19 pitches
Day 4: 63 pitches

So Haddeland never started back to back days. He had a day off after his start and then came in in relief two days in a row.

That's a fair point about the off day, but I don't think it is fair say it fair to call what Gray did "starting back-to-back day", since it was the same game and he threw 3+ innings the second day. That is more like coming back out of the bullpen. Per the live stats he threw 126 total, so 56 today. IF he is done for the tournament (and the tournament finishes on time), I'm not sure it is fair to say one is fine and one is bad. Both are not ideal, but I would bet both wanted the ball and it's hard to say no to your number one.

I'm against it too, but it is no different than what Brosius did with Haddeland two years ago in the Regional. Was Brosius negligent then?