Quote from: DBQ1965 on December 05, 2007, 10:00:30 PMHe came to party, of course.
How did a guy with a name like Harry Smith end up at Central? Or was his name Harry VanderSmith?


That's Harry lying down in the front.
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Show posts MenuQuote from: DBQ1965 on December 05, 2007, 10:00:30 PMHe came to party, of course.
How did a guy with a name like Harry Smith end up at Central? Or was his name Harry VanderSmith?
Quote from: HoosierinIowa on December 06, 2007, 11:23:52 AMNext season is where the rubber hits the road for McMartin. His recruits really start to enter the picture next fall. Rich Kac's success declined severely after Schipper's recruiting prowess graduated. Flux will be interesting indeed.
McMartin has been great but Central loses a ton of great players.
Quote from: HoosierinIowa on December 05, 2007, 04:03:37 PMMy Dad is a Wabash grad, and when I told him who Central hired he breathed a sigh of relief that McMartin was gone from DePauw (I think that the Dannies had won the Monon Bell a few times during his tenure as OC there).
I am really interested in seeing who Simpson hires. I didn't think JN was a great coach or that he was terrible. I assumed they had someone specific in mind to replace him when he was let go. Maybe one of the guys on staff or a unknown will be great.
To show what I know about hiring coaches everyone I knew (including me) thought Central settled when they got McMartin and he has been outstanding!
Quote from: DutchFan2004 on December 05, 2007, 12:34:06 PMQuote from: doolittledog on December 04, 2007, 10:23:51 PM
DF2K4...sounds like your kid would make a great coach!!!
Well Doolittle that is his plan. He is getting ready to apply for grad school and wants to get a GA position.
Quote from: doolittledog on December 04, 2007, 06:32:20 PMFixed.
That would be 2003 where the Dutch went 5-5 and 2004 when they went 6-4.
Now...if you take out those 2 seasons when they went a combined 8-8 in the IIAC...in the last 2 seasons and the previous 5 before the 2003 and 2004 seasons Central has gone 58-4 in conference play over those 7 years. Expected.
Quote from: DutchFan2004 on December 03, 2007, 01:08:11 PMI have to say that this is one of the first times in recent memory that I actually believe the bold statement above. Those 5-5 and 6-4 seasons really had me scared for the program (unacceptable to many alums). No offense to anyone that played on those teams...it's just something that we old folks weren't used to...therefore we'll forever refuse to accept it as a possibility.
As far as needs go for next year the four that are mentioned do need to be replaced. There are some kids there on campus that IMO can fill the shoes. That being said I think that if there are some good recruits out there that they may feel that they can fill those shoes as well. The defensive back field needs some help with the loss of Baethke, Doud, Baduex, Dierx, and LB's Altmeir (spelling) and Lehn. There were also two D lineman graduation too. Mulder and WillisThe recruiting wars are just heating up. The few large sided victories the Dutch had gave them some PT for the younger players as well. The one thing that the Dutch do have to look forward to is that they have been here in this position before. They had just come off of a 5-5 and a 6-4 season when this group of seniors were sophomores. Out of that season they produced a 9-1 regular season 9-2 overall and tie for IIAC crown. They went on to a 20-0 regular season and a 2-2 playoff record. So for a team with so many questions as that to fill in when they started after two down years lets hope after the 31-4 record they turned in three years the next class can continue on.![]()
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Quote from: BeaverOfYore on December 03, 2007, 12:39:59 PMAll I know is the Central angle, and I know for a fact that the Central D wanted a crack at him, badly. Actually mentioning Carey Bender was treated as a severe insult...Kac almost punched me out a few times when I was giving him crap about Bender. One of those hypothetical wishes, I guess.Quote from: Kohawk Krazy on December 03, 2007, 12:19:58 PMQuote from: oldbeake on December 03, 2007, 01:59:58 AMQuote from: Walston Hoover on December 02, 2007, 12:45:29 PMBender didn't play in the IIAC. No offense to Coe, but there were defenses in the IIAC that would have been excited to have a shot at him, and I think that he would have had a less than stellar career...had he been facing early 90s Simpson, Wartburg, and Central. Again...no offense, but Grinnell was really more focused on their relays during those years.
Fred Jackson and Coe College getting some love on Fox NFL Sunday. They talked about them for a good 15 seconds. Jay Glazer called Fred Coe's most famous alum which the host took offense to because he is a Coe alum. Then they talked about Levy. Never brought up Bender.
Bender played at Coe from 1991-1994. During that time he had a 6-2 record against the Iowa Conference Schools with wins coming three times over Wartburg, twice over William Penn and once over Upper Iowa. Their two losses were to Simpson in 1991 and Wartburg in 1994. Playoff teams in those years were 1991 Simpson, 1993 Wartburg and 1994 Wartburg, so they beat a 1993 Wartburg playoff team.
I'd say Carey Bender would have done just fine in the Iowa Conference.
You might as well throw out the wins over William Penn and UIU because that's like bragging about beating Cornell today. That would leave Coe at 3-2 vs. real teams. Not saying anything about Bender himself, but the W-L record just got a lot less impressive.
Quote from: Walston Hoover on December 02, 2007, 12:45:29 PMBender didn't play in the IIAC. No offense to Coe, but there were defenses in the IIAC that would have been excited to have a shot at him, and I think that he would have had a less than stellar career...had he been facing early 90s Simpson, Wartburg, and Central. Again...no offense, but Grinnell was really more focused on their relays during those years.
Fred Jackson and Coe College getting some love on Fox NFL Sunday. They talked about them for a good 15 seconds. Jay Glazer called Fred Coe's most famous alum which the host took offense to because he is a Coe alum. Then they talked about Levy. Never brought up Bender.
Quote from: GoldandBlueBU on December 01, 2007, 01:13:01 PMWill do. One of the Dutch radio guys is providing updates on the IIAC board, too.Quote from: oldbeake on December 01, 2007, 01:00:11 PMQuote from: criswyly on December 01, 2007, 12:54:35 PMI'm still waiting to hear. The have lights now, I hear...so time shouldn't be a factor.
Any possibility of a cancellation?
let us know when you find out.
Quote from: sportsknight on December 01, 2007, 12:59:42 PMWhat are the chances of the game being cancelled?Quote from: Airborne Dutch on December 01, 2007, 12:54:43 PMWe've just been told that the game has been bumped another half hour, so start time is now 1:30 Central.
Aargh. Gonna be a late night for me.