Quote from: ElRetornodelEspencio on September 02, 2016, 07:04:59 PM
DHing in the Appy League is not a great sign.

Wolf is also over age for the Appy League. Average age in that league is 20 and Wolf was more than 22 1/2. So like the difference between a senior and a freshman. If he's not putting up numbers there, he wouldn't last long.

He really needs to be playing High A next year, which means Florida State League, which means the lowest scoring league in American baseball. He'll still be over age there, but not by nearly as much. On the plus side, St. Lucie is a lot more interesting than Kingsport.

http://www.milb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20160902&content_id=199136336&fext=.jsp&vkey=news_t506&sid=t506

Being named Rookie of the Year for the team is a really bad sign...just anothe stupid comment from ElRet...stay hot kid

The A side of the World Series is going to be stacked. The 1st, 2nd, and 3rd place finishers (Cortland/Lacrosse/Trinity) are all in it and Trinity opens up with UWL in a rematch/vengeance game from last year. I have to think that will be the most looked forwarded to game of Day 1 in Wisconsin

Quote from: ElRetornodelEspencio on May 21, 2016, 09:15:13 PM
For all the haterade thrown at Case Western, it's interesting that a #6 seed that wouldn't have gotten a Pool C beat all the other supposedly great teams in the regional.

The reality is that if you lose the 3/4 game in a 6 team regional, you're up against it because you usually are going to play the #1 seed coming off a win. Case drawing the host team was just more bad luck.

I imagine not many teams win the regional from the 3/4 spot if the 1 seed wins its first game.

Mideast got 2 teams sent out of region and into the 3/4 round of a 6 team regional. Something I don't imagine West teams have to deal with too often.

Only one team in the tournament ends the season happy.

If I remember correctly I think the last time that happened in the West was 2012 when the loser came back to beat the 1 seed

PLU comes out firing puts up 2 quickly to make it 10-6 chasing Flores...2nd and 3rd no outs B7 with Hoffman coming in for the Tigers

Rain delay at the West Regional....10-4 Trinity going into the bottom of the 7th...fwiw Trinity has scored in all 7 innings today

Stringing hits together over and over again...it's very impressive with 1-9 in the lineup contributing once again...PLU needs to put up a 0 in the 6th or this game could start getting away from them

One thing I have kinda noticed compared to previous regionals which I think kinda shows these past couple years...before there were stud pitchers like Klimesh/Haddeland/Lucero/Peterson (CLU)/Schebe (Whitworh in 2012)/etc...maybe that has led to these more high scoring games where their are a bunch of above average pitching but their aren't those horses that teams send out knowing it's a guaranteed 7 innings 2 runs or less...anybody else notice that or am I missing something?

And here is the example of why SOS is a good but misleading stat....if anything its shows a flaw in system which have have a negative result for the West every year...do you think the committee acknowledges this in the selection progress or just kinda sweeps it under the rug and pretends its not there?

And just like that a Wolf RBI double and a Butler 2 Run HR puts Trinity up 3-2 in the bottom of the 1st. For a West regional I did not know that games could feature more than 4 or 5 runs. Its a pleasant surprise to see.

Well PLU came to play...BB, K, 2B, 1B to start and take a 2-0 lead on Gray and the Tigers. Well if TU was gonna be hungover from the layoff/flight I'm sure this got their attention. We will see how this plays out but maybe the West will be a more offensive region this year with the field dimensions and the lack of many dominating pitchers that we have seen in the past.

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Quote from: ElRetornodelEspencio on May 16, 2016, 12:03:12 PM
Case played the #2 schedule. I wouldn't take their number to be comparable to the rest of the region that is limited in what they can accomplish SOS wise.

I didn't mean to devalue that point. It's just my interpretation of taking that into account that I value the .60 difference in BA and 1.25 difference in ERA more than the #2 SOS. Being a West poster I'm also a little biased with the SOS since the West gets bashed for that and there is not a ton those teams can do about it.

But that difference in ERA MAY be linked directly to SOS. What would Case's ERA be if they did not play the SOS they did. I do not believe you can just throw out SOS. I believe the 2 are inexorably linked. You cannot look at one with out looking at the other.

I agree but in the West I think it is a different animal. Every year you could use SOS against the West over and over again. So when you apply it to the West I think you have to look at it more than one is low and one is high. Every time in the West it is going to be higher compared to other teams in the country so I think its needs to be more of a team by team basis. My point is more of I think SOS can work as a fair comparison if the West teams could consistently play the top teams in the rest of the country. However, I think for the West you just have to look at the region in general and to be honest it really for much of the season has looked like Trinity and then there is a drop off (however Cal Lu has looked better of late). It would not surprise me in the slightest if Case plays Trinity in the final.

Quote from: ElRetornodelEspencio on May 16, 2016, 12:03:12 PM
Case played the #2 schedule. I wouldn't take their number to be comparable to the rest of the region that is limited in what they can accomplish SOS wise.

I didn't mean to devalue that point. It's just my interpretation of taking that into account that I value the .60 difference in BA and 1.25 difference in ERA more than the #2 SOS. Being a West poster I'm also a little biased with the SOS since the West gets bashed for that and there is not a ton those teams can do about it.

Quote from: 108 Stitches on May 16, 2016, 10:37:24 AM
Teams as ranked.

1. Trinity (35-7)
2. CLU (31-11)
3. Case Western Reserve (26-13)
4. Whitworth (29-11)
5. UTTyler (30-17)
6. Pacific Lutheran (25-16)

Team Stats:

Trinity:       0.347 BA 2.79 ERA, 0.968 Fielding %
CLU:          0.328 BA 3.43 ERA  0.972 Fielding %
Case W      0.289 BA 4.04 ERA  0.961 Fielding %
Whtworth: 0.306 BA 3.86 ERA  0.972 Fielding %
UTTyler:     0.307 BA 4.32 ERA  0.958 Fielding %
PLU:          0.290 BA 4.35 ERA  0.970 Fielding %

This was taken from the 2013 Regional Board:

Some stats for the teams that are in the West Region and how they stack up Nationwide (from NCAA.com)
These are teams in the West Region that are ranked in the top 10 in the country by category.


Batting Average -   #1 Cal Lutheran
Runs Scored      -    #2 Cal Luteran
ERA                    -   # 4 Trinity; #7 Linfield
Fielding %          -  #1 UT Tyler; #2 Linfield; #9 Texas Lutheran

Interesting that our region has some of the best teams in each of these catagories nationwide.



If you look at this year for the same things:

BA: Trinity #5
Runs: Trinity #2
ERA: Trinity #4
Fielding %: Whitworth #5 Cal Lu #7 Pac Lu #8

I just do not see how these other teams can compete with Trinity when they have a top 10 offense and pitching staff they are #21 in Fielding %. There really doesn't seem like there are as many elite teams in this regional compared to a year like 2013 where you could argue 3 of the top 10 teams in the country were in it. If Trinity does not make the trip back to Appleton I'd be very surprised.

Quote from: NWBaseballFan10 on April 20, 2016, 02:32:39 PM
When are they publicizing the first regional rankings? I feel like this is about the time of the year when those rankings are released...

My two cents on the West at this point (pretty similar to the top 25 polls):

1) Trinity
2) Occidental
3) Whitworth
4) Texas Lutheran
5) Cal Lutheran
6) Centenary

Although we may not necessarily see 6 "West" teams in the West Regional this year. The SCAC won't get 3 teams in the Regional for one thing. I expect to see a lot of changes over these next few weeks as conference tourneys start up.

I've been out off the message boards for a little bit now but decided to get back in it for a little bit. From watching the d3 landscape, especially in the West, I believe this post is a great summation of what is going on in the region this year. We have 3 teams from the SCAC which is historically a conference that will have max maybe 2 in the numerous rankings and that usually was during the time when Millsaps/Rhodes/Birmingham Southern were members. Also, seeing a team like Occidental this high really makes me wonder 1) The West region has raised the level of competition so teams like Linfield/Trinity stop continuing to dominiate the region 2) The West region may be a little bit down with some traditional powers struggling 3) Maybe a little bit of both

Of note, being a little bit of a SCAC homer, I do not think there has been this many of high level teams in the conference tournament since maybe 2012 when Trinity (lost in regional final), Birmingham Southern (lost in regional final), and Millsaps (CWS appearance) were all teams in the tournament. As stated above it is unlikely all 3 teams will make the field but not being that team that finishes 3rd could pay major dividends down the road with the selection committee.

Trinity is in a pretty good spot next year. Replacing Tindall, Speer, and Rape in the rotation is the main issue as Gray and Walker are really the only ones who have seen significant time starting games. Also replacing Griffith in the pen since Turner is the only one with a big sample size of experience there as well. Every starter from this WS team comes back which is something that will be their biggest strength next year and will all of them being seniors...(literally all 9 of them). They will easily be the favorite to win the West Region next year.