Quote from: Falconer on November 03, 2017, 08:35:20 AM

Quote from: PaulNewman on November 02, 2017, 11:21:48 PM
Falconer, I'll go with Schilling...after considerable research.  You failed to mention Kenyon won 2-1 in 1996!

Nicely done, Paul, nicely done. As far as I know, Messiah and Kenyon have played just twice, with the other game (as you know) being in the tournament just a few years ago. Both were in Grantham. 1996 was at or near the end of the coaching career of the late Layton Shoemaker, a longtime friend of mine. Because one of his players (Schlling) had a brother (it might be a twin, but I don't trust my memory on that part) who played for Kenyon, Layton promised to arrange a game. I love that: it's what all college sports should be about, namely, the cultivation of relationships that last and enrich us.

Thanks for taking the challenge. I enjoyed offering it. If you ever have one for me, I'll try to do as well as you did with it.

Hope to see the series continue yearly for Messiah vs Ford.  The programs seem to challenge themselves with non-conference schedules so let's hope this stays.  Messiah leads 2-1.

Quote from: PaulNewman on November 02, 2017, 10:42:05 PM
Pool C's -- Amherst, Cortland St, John Carroll.....only 16 spots left...or is it 15?  The bubble is already getting smaller and tighter.

Pool C
John Carroll, Amherst, Cortland.

I believe Brandeis and Buffalo State get one so five.

Tonight either Hopkins or Dickinson will get one.

6 will be gone after tonight leaving 13 spots.

Quote from: Shooter McGavin on November 01, 2017, 08:18:20 AM

Quote from: Flying Weasel on October 31, 2017, 05:03:17 PM
Same starting GK as the whole season.  Is Dickinson playing that well at the moment, or is Haverford that poor at the moment?

Any one have any insight or ideas as to why Haverford wasn't able to live up to expectations this season?  Is it simply a matter of having graduated their best players that helped elevate the program back into national prominence?  Did they lose some critical players to injury?  Did they have an Achilles heel that they just couldn't compensate for?  Or is it not so much that they dropped off so much, but that Hopkins, Drew, and Gettysburg improved significantly and Dickinson bounced back from an off year turning 3 or 4 games they would have won the past couple years into losses this year?

They seemed to lack a goal scorer. The Janelli kid is fantastic but after him they didn't really have offensive firepower. Also, the commentary for yesterday said they lost 2 starting CB's to injury earlier in the year. I am sure that had to hurt at the time but they trended the wrong way down the stretch. Other than the lack of goals and graduating a nice class I am not sure what the issue was for them this season. All in all it wasn't a bad season but just not what we have come to expect from the Fords as of late.

Yes I heard injuries definitely got to them down the stretch - heard three Cb's who were playing were out for the year. 

Looking at a lot of the rankings I still think the Fords have a shot at an at-large.  Their winning % might hold them back but teams in the past have gotten in with worse winning % but high SOS and RvR.  Interesting to see where they land in this weeks rankings - they will need help but looking at other region's they compete in two of the three categories.

Quote from: Mr.Right on October 18, 2017, 02:03:26 PM

Quote from: Mid-Atlantic Fan on October 18, 2017, 01:49:37 PM

Quote from: Mr.Right on October 18, 2017, 01:38:09 PM
Giving Messiah their only loss will be big IMO. Alone it would not get them in but if they could get 3 wins v Ranked it would push them over the line.

I think it will depend on the others ahead of them and their SOS/RvR as well. The win vs Messiah is massive to keep them alive but they already have 6 blemishes. Assuming they don't win the Centennial Championship that adds another blemish putting them at 7. That doesn't even include the 3 remaining games which aren't going to be easy for them. Losses to Drew, Gettysburg and Hopkins all will make it difficult to jump those teams with the head to head factor. Then the 3 poor ties on top of that hurt too. Right now if I am guessing correctly they will be 1-3-0 RvR for the 2nd rankings and a toss up for what happens with Dickinson is a ranked result one way or the other. That's not good enough to jump those other teams that have the head to head, better winning %, similar SOS and possibly better or similar RvR.

Oh i was being lazy and did not check their record. Had no idea they already have 6 losses. Yea they would have to win out and draw in the Centennial Championship game by PK's to have a shot I guess.

They are 8-3-3 so not 6 losses.

Quote from: Shooter McGavin on October 18, 2017, 11:18:41 AM
SOS and RvR are looked at almost equally. But for the first one there are no RvR so SOS will have more of an emphasis along with win% and head to head if I had to guess.

If SOS is a huge part then I would expect the Fords to be higher around 3-4 in this first ranking.  What could keep them is 1-3 vs R&R but does the weight of beating Messiah and possible win at Dickinson on Saturday do a enough for them?

Quote from: Mid-Atlantic Fan on October 18, 2017, 10:42:08 AM

Quote from: backyarddawg on October 18, 2017, 09:35:44 AM
Any thoughts on Regional rankings for the Mid-Atlantic?

1 - Messiah
2 - JHU
3 - Lyco
4 - Getty
5 - Drew
6 - Fords
7 - LVC
8 - Dickinson

Others:
Eastern, Kings, Scranton

I am thinking something like this...

1. Messiah
2. Lycoming
3. Hopkins
4. Drew
5. Gettysburg
6. Haverford
7. Dickinson
8. Leb Val
9. Eastern
10. DeSales/Kings/Etown/Moravian/Scranton/F&M

I believe these rankings are based on W% and SOS correct?

Any thoughts on Regional rankings for the Mid-Atlantic?

1 - Messiah
2 - JHU
3 - Lyco
4 - Getty
5 - Drew
6 - Fords
7 - LVC
8 - Dickinson

Others:
Eastern, Kings, Scranton

According to college coaches I am friends with, the NCAA decided to do away with the multiplier after the new year so many coaches played away games which maybe they would not in the future.  The reason I heard is the multiplier was too different between home and away.

Quote from: Mid-Atlantic Fan on October 17, 2017, 07:55:31 AM

Quote from: Flying Weasel on October 17, 2017, 07:17:56 AM

Quote from: backyarddawg on October 16, 2017, 10:27:33 PM
I still think out of all these teams Haverford has had the toughest schedule.  On the National Perspective chat they are speaking of schedules and I would put the Fords up there with anyone especially since they played a majority of them on the road.  I know 8-3-3 isn't great but if they finish with three wins and get to 11-3-3 I would think they would be higher on this list.

@Cabrini
N vs Messiah
N vs Etown
@JHU
@Scranton
@Getty
@Muhls
@Camden
@Drew
@WAC
@Dickinson

Looks like the Haverford coach took a page out of Serpone's book up at Amherst, scheduling as many non-conference games away as possible to boost the SOS ! ! !   Before this year, Haverford's SOS would have been especially high given all those away matches, but now that the home/away multiplier has been eliminated it won't be quite as high.

Disappointing they got ride of the home/away multiplier. I think there is a true difference between road games and home games and to place them as equal doesn't make much sense to me. Does anyone know why they got rid of this multiplier?

Who's going to have the highest SOS in the Mid-Atlantic?

I still think out of all these teams Haverford has had the toughest schedule.  On the National Perspective chat they are speaking of schedules and I would put the Fords up there with anyone especially since they played a majority of them on the road.  I know 8-3-3 isn't great but if they finish with three wins and get to 11-3-3 I would think they would be higher on this list.

@Cabrini
N vs Messiah
N vs Etown
@JHU
@Scranton
@Getty
@Muhls
@Camden
@Drew
@WAC
@Dickinson

Need to win final three to be in convo but no mid-Atlantic team has played their schedule.

Tuesday & Wednesday's games will determine a lot in conference play.

Quote from: firstplaceloser on October 04, 2017, 08:57:39 PM
Overtime in camden 0-0. camden put the pressure on in the 2nd half

Not sure if we watched the same game but thought Camden got lucky to draw vs Haverford. They have not been great his year but to be 7-2-3 with their schedule and a lack of goal scoring shows they have some grit.  Not sure any team in the region has played their schedule.

vs Messiah, Neutral vs Etown, vs Steven's, @ Hopkins, @ Scranton, @ Getty, vs F&M, @ Muhl's, @ Camden, @ Drew, @ Dickinson
Many teams with this schedule would have more then 2 losses.

If they can find the back of the net, they will become dangerous late.  Big week for them @ Drew and @ WAC.

Great weekend games - it is early but some teams are starting to separate themselves.

Lycoming has to be the winner of the Mid-Atlantic after two weeks going 5-0 with wins over RUC, Rowan, Susquehanna, Dickinson & Washington College.  They look to be on the heels of Messiah which they host this year.  Other teams with great starts are Gettysburg and John Hopkins.  Watch out for those two in the Centennial Conference.

Other winners has to be Etown coming out of a tournament 1-1 where they should've beat Haverford and gone 2-0.  Great win for ETown yesterday vs Eastern.

Great set of mid-week games coming up this week:
9/12:
Scranton vs Misericordia

9/13:
Swarthmore vs Eastern
Stevens vs Haverford (After seeing Haverford hang on vs Etown and look not much better vs Catholic I am expecting an 0-2 week from them with Stevens and Hopkins Saturday.
Salisbury vs Washington
Dickinson vs Messiah
Moravian vs Montclair
York vs John Hopkins
Etown vs F&M (The "BOOT")

Quote from: rudy on September 10, 2017, 09:47:45 AM

Quote from: Mid-Atlantic Fan on September 08, 2017, 03:08:30 PM
Some games to watch this weekend...

9/9
Lycoming @ Dickinson
Scranton @ Cortland
Etown @ Fords
Hopkins @ Manhattanville
Catholic @ Eastern
Montclair @ Messiah

9/10
Whitman @ Drew
Gordon @ Dickinson
Catholic @ Fords
F&M @ W&L
Etown @ Eastern
Gettysburg @ York

Lyco over Dickinson 3-0. They continue a strong start to the season. Look to be poised to challenge Messiah again for the league title. Still early but clearly they are playing well.

Quote from: D3soccerwatcher on September 03, 2017, 02:23:20 AM

Quote from: backyarddawg on September 02, 2017, 08:18:28 AM
Interesting day one results in the Mid-Atlantic.

Would have to say the three biggest winners were Lyco over RUC, Dickinson over William Paterson and Etown over Morrisville.  Those three results show Lyco & Dickinson might be back while Etown is a contender again.

F&M not worried about as it looked like they dominated the game and got unlucky.

Haverford 3-0 over Cabrini - saw the game and they are a shell of what they were the last two years.  They might be in for a long season.

Other good results:
Muhlenberg 2-1 over LVC
Messiah over 3-1 over Chapman
Eastern over Alvernia 3-1
Susquehanna over Ursinus 3-1

Are you saying Haverford is a shell of what they were last year?  Can you please provide more color?

Yes Haverford is going to struggle this year.

Interesting day one results in the Mid-Atlantic.

Would have to say the three biggest winners were Lyco over RUC, Dickinson over William Paterson and Etown over Morrisville.  Those three results show Lyco & Dickinson might be back while Etown is a contender again.

F&M not worried about as it looked like they dominated the game and got unlucky.

Haverford 3-0 over Cabrini - saw the game and they are a shell of what they were the last two years.  They might be in for a long season.

Other good results:
Muhlenberg 2-1 over LVC
Messiah over 3-1 over Chapman
Eastern over Alvernia 3-1
Susquehanna over Ursinus 3-1

Just saw this on Emory's website.  This has to be a top 5 job in D3.  Thank you Sonny and all the best at Coe?

http://www.emoryathletics.com/sports/msoc/2016-17/releases/20170814onrhe3

Who gets this job moving forward?

Anyone have any candidates they would recommend? 

Centennial Final 1:00 pm tomorrow.

F&M at Haverford.

Have both done enough or do the Fords need to win?

Predictions?