Quote from: Hoosier Titan on February 24, 2014, 09:41:38 PM
Congratulations to IWU's Jordan Nelson, the CCIW player of the week:

http://www.cciw.org/news/2014/2/24/MBB_0224141148.aspx

Great job, Jordan!  While Jordan and the Titans will be battling in the conference semis on Friday night, the high school we both attended (and a few other Titans) will also be in a huge battle.  The #3 3A Lincoln Railsplitters host the #1 3A Lions of Springfield Lanphier.  While many will consider this to not be related to the CCIW, I'm guessing there could be a CCIW caliber player on either roster.  I'm sure that Coach Nadelhoffer and Coach Rose would be interested in some players on either squad, as would the rest of the CCIW coaching contingent.  Lanphier won the first meeting in Springfield, with a rebound bucket at the buzzer in regulation to send it to overtime.
Titan Hammer, and a few ball pein hammers, will be at The Shirk on Friday and Saturday to see some quality basketball.  Praying for the safety of all players as they give it their best.  Ever a chance we'll see two CCIW teams battling for the NCAA D 3 Title?

Because I was officiating at a much lower level on Saturday night, I was only able to see the second half.  What I think some of the previous posts were referring to were the offensive foul/no call situations.  Marlon "flopped" (went down voluntarily with contact...something I won't deny to have learned) and received the call from the officials after Victor made a move.  Not saying it was an inaccurate call.  On the other end, Malcolm did the same to Jordan and there was no call.  I am saying that was a bad no call.  I'm not saying these made the difference in the game, I'm not saying they didn't.  I will say that this is the most physical game I've seen the referees let occur, from my computer screen...this year, by far.  I couldn't recognize the officials via the stream...were they regular CCIW officials?
I was impressed with Carthage and how well they played.  Looking forward to when they visit The Shirk.  Didn't get a close enough look to be impressed with Coach Bosko's pants (I'm partially color blind) and/or tan.

Quote from: Gregory Sager on February 06, 2013, 05:02:21 PM
During the Bridges era, the Titans were always a lanky bunch of dead-eye shooters who ran their halfcourt sets with crisp perfection, typically considered defense something of an afterthought, and generally operated by the principle that, while you couldn't stop them, they'd be able to stop you just often enough to gradually accumulate a lead that you'd never be able to overcome.

Greg, thanks for leaving me completely out of the Bridge's era (although, he was my coach).  I was neither lanky...or a dead-eye shooter...and defense/rebounding was my first/only priority.  Other than me, your description is probably somewhat accurate.

Quote from: Titan Q on January 28, 2013, 08:31:50 PM
Ron Rose up next on Hoopsville...

http://www.d3hoops.com/hoopsville/index

Thought Coach Rose represented the CCIW with class.  Fortunate to have him as our coach/leader of young men.

Very good game tonight, played by two great D3 teams.  Everyone was on fire to start the game, especially Ziemnik.  Loved the intracacies of two savied teams battling it out.  Pray the younger Raridon's eye is OK...and the ankle of Mr. Tiknis...he seemed to turn it in the first half, but bounced back.

Quote from: AndOne on March 25, 2012, 10:44:26 PM

* To answer your question, the last time I saw kids play zone defense in a pick up game was never! However, the last time I saw ANY form of defense played in a pick up game was also NEVER. And, I see a hell of a lot of pick up games. 
* You said the small school HS kid may not be challenged much, either in practice or games whereas "the kid from the good 4A school is challenged every day in practice, and probably by a very demanding schedule." The problem is, your premise was there isn't much of a jump from playing zone defense exclusively in HS to playing man in college. The question then still remains, if "the kid from the good 4A school" only practices against a zone (because thats all his school plays), and only plays a zone when he is on defense, how does that help him, in any way, to learn any of the nuances of playing man to man defense?? The answer is, it doesn't.

If those kids didn't play any kind of defense in pick up games, then I would guess they didn't come from a program that had much pride...at least in defense, if not winning.

On the zone defense thing...doesn't it matter as to what type of zone?  The zone that Louisville played in the first half against Florida looked just like a man-to-man.  If someone played that zone, wouldn't they know most of the man to man principles?

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Quote from: dennis_prikkel on March 24, 2012, 01:32:03 PM
article in the daily herald this morning that Brian Nelms, guard from Rolling Meadows HS (which I can see from my house) will attend Illinois Wesleyan.

While an excellent offensive talent - he'll have to learn how to play man to man defense in college, cause the Mustangs exclusively play zone.

dgp

Speaking from experience, not a huge jump from zone to man defense.

Titanhammer---

Not a huge jump  
Even if the kid had experience in playing man to man D, he would have a huge jump to make just moving from high school to college level basketball. Without any experience with man to man, he will be at a tremendous disadvantage at least half the time he is on the floor. I think most coaches today will insist that you at least have a clue when your team is on the defensive end of the floor.
In what sports "experience" have you not found inexperience to be a major step to overcome?
Not having any experience playing man to  man defense, a player would initially have no clue in even the basics of the defensive game. Offensive stars coming out of high school are a dime a dozen. A skilled offensive player who is only better than average on defense has a tremendous advantage over a poor defender. And my "experience" is that a skilled offensive player who has much to learn on defense, often suffers a loss in the level of his offensive production as he expends both a lot of physical AND mental energy in trying to absorb his new defensive assignments.
Coming into college with no experience in playing man defense, a player would have no clue in such basic defensive principles as defensive stance, defensive slides, ball-you-man, closing out, overplaying you opponent's strong hand,  switching, fighting through and going over or under screens,  jamming the passing lanes, help and recover, playing one or two man removed, helping from the weak side, or any number of other defensive skill sets. Overall, likely a HUGE jump.      

Without spending too much time on this, I'll make a couple of points and be done.  Although the kid may have played exclusively zone in high school (which I also did), I assume he plays pick up games during the summer.  When's the last time you saw kids play zone in a pick up game?  You pick up the nuances with that experience.

Secondly, the jump from high school to college depends a lot on your high school experience and what level you're playing in college.  It would be much more of a jump for a kid from a small class 1A school to the CCIW than it would for a kid from a good 4A school.  The kid from the 1A school may never get challenged in practice or in games during his senior season...where the kid from the good 4A school is challenged every day in practice and probably by a very demanding schedule.

Quote from: dennis_prikkel on March 24, 2012, 01:32:03 PM
article in the daily herald this morning that Brian Nelms, guard from Rolling Meadows HS (which I can see from my house) will attend Illinois Wesleyan.

While an excellent offensive talent - he'll have to learn how to play man to man defense in college, cause the Mustangs exclusively play zone.

dgp

Speaking from experience, not a huge jump from zone to man defense.

Quote from: TitansIWU on March 03, 2012, 10:20:55 PM

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Quote from: TitansIWU on March 03, 2012, 09:33:55 PM
YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

TITANS 108
HOPE 101

I gotta do the math, but I think Zimmer with 7 3s is the all time 3 point shooter for IWU.

However, there will need to be an "*" by his record.

* broke record with a bad foot???

That...and he had to shoot further out than the guys he passed....

Quote from: augie_superfan on March 03, 2012, 10:01:24 PM

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Quote from: augie_superfan on March 03, 2012, 09:51:27 PM
This Wash U color guy is killing me...complaining all game long

Hope's announcers were students and I thought they were the most unbiased team I have heard all season, maybe in several seasons.

I agree, they did a nice job both nights

Who was the color guy for the Wheaton game?  He was phenominal!

Quote from: TitansIWU on March 03, 2012, 09:33:55 PM
YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

TITANS 108
HOPE 101

I gotta do the math, but I think Zimmer with 7 3s is the all time 3 point shooter for IWU.

However, there will need to be an "*" by his record.

With all of this CCIW coaching talk, I realized that I played under three different CCIW coaches:

1 Coach Bridges at IWU
2 Coach Yount at Lincoln College and Prairie State Games
3 Coach Littrell during Prairie State Games

And I see Coach Ramsey at Church these days...as well as Coach Rose.

Quote from: augie_superfan on February 01, 2012, 09:57:07 PM
Sure.  I think any coach in the most popular sports is a public face of the college.  That still doesn't change my opinion that the coach-ref interaction should be different from the player-ref interaction. 

I think its a completely different arguement if you are hinting that Grey is a bad example for students and players.  That is something that the college obviously has made their mind up on.  I'm only guessing that they think the successful program he has built and the good works that he does in and around campus outweigh his demeanor on the sidelines.

There is no doubting he is an intense man when it comes to basketball and that intensity transfers over to his players.  But, if he were serving as a bad example to his players, don't you think we'd see a lot more of the players getting technicals for their behavior on the court?

If his players give the two handed full "waive off" to the officials that Grey did, there is no doubt that they should/will get the technical foul that Green did.

If Augustana accepts trading the antics/habits of their coach for a winning record, that is their choice.

Article about enforcing sportsmanship:  http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2012/writers/seth_davis/01/27/NCAA.sportsmanship/index.html

I'm not a coach basher and I don't think coaches should be perfect, but they should be held to a standard.  I've had the priveledge of having some of the best coaches at each level in the country...including Coach Steve Yount, one of my favorites.  Animated is one thing...questionable antics is another.