Quote from: gizzmo13 on December 13, 2015, 11:53:35 AM

Quote from: D3Warhawk on December 13, 2015, 11:37:29 AM

Quote from: gizzmo13 on December 13, 2015, 04:02:23 AM

Quote from: Pat Coleman on December 11, 2015, 11:40:17 AM
Surely the UWW/UWO game from last week is more indicative than any game from October is. The margin of the two Oshkosh games were similar but the style of the game was significantly different. The guy who is UWW's No. 1 receiver now had just two catches vs. Platteville.

And 0 catches for 0 yards against mount. Guess he was stuck on Jonesisland!!!

Point made.

Take a look at the past couple years and Jones Island was letting everything and anything to be caught on it.

Not gonna say I called the How To Beat Whitewater in this thread by sustaining long drives, but Mt did exactly what I thought they needed to do. Heck of a team they are.

You also had a 6"5 nfl caliber wr, that's tough to guard at 5"9.

Quote from: gizzmo13 on December 13, 2015, 04:02:23 AM

Quote from: Pat Coleman on December 11, 2015, 11:40:17 AM
Surely the UWW/UWO game from last week is more indicative than any game from October is. The margin of the two Oshkosh games were similar but the style of the game was significantly different. The guy who is UWW's No. 1 receiver now had just two catches vs. Platteville.

And 0 catches for 0 yards against mount. Guess he was stuck on Jonesisland!!!

Take a look at the past couple years and Jones Island was letting everything and anything to be caught on it.

Not gonna say I called the How To Beat Whitewater in this thread by sustaining long drives, but Mt did exactly what I thought they needed to do. Heck of a team they are.

Smith is calling a horrible game. Has he not seen one single UWW game on how to beat UMU?

The defense needs to come up with ONE BIG PLAY THIS GAME

O COORDINATOR IS CHOKING RIGHT NOW. GO DOWN HILL NOT SIDE TO SIDE!

WHERE ARE THE CORNERS ON THE EDGE!!!

I'll post my prediction having been a part of these games before.

We can beat the line play to death and we all know how this will be the determining factor. What I THINK is going to be the determining factor of this game is not the O LINE play of the Warhawks but rather that of the Raiders. We have seen the UMU offense the past couple years have this quick strike ability, and the Warhawks have known that at any time from anywhere on the field UMU could score.

But, having been around football my whole life, a quick strike touchdown is not nearly as demoralizing or tiring as long bombs and big plays. If UMU can sustain drives against UWW of say 10+ plays, I think that would far benefit them in wearing down the defense of UWW. If it turns into them either hitting the long hitters or 3 & outs, letting Whitewater play the clock control game will not help.

I think this game goes to Whitewater. I don't see how the UMU offense can be any better without Burke at the helm, and even then we saw how much he struggled against a UWW defense who was extremely young as a front 7. Bring everyone back from that group, and I think Scott might have some issues.

UWW 31
UMU 21

"The Machine" halts here!

Quote from: bceagle80 on December 11, 2015, 03:11:48 PM

Quote from: MasterJedi on December 11, 2015, 02:41:08 PM
Prediction from a UWW guy is:

UWW 35
UMU 31

Could easily see it flipped. And like I posted in the WIAC board had a dream last night that UMU was up 7-0 at half after having outgained UWW 250-140 in yards. 

I believe the force to be strong with this one (Purple Raiders),
Master Jedi!! However, I agree with your score prediction on the flip side: 35-31, Mount Union.

I think Mount Union needs to score early and often like against they did against Wesley. Key difference maker prediction: Taurice Scott, due to his incredible agility and mobility. On defense, Hank Spencer & Company (the LBs). Last year your team had fantastic LBs. Now Mount has them.  The quickness needed for pass coverage as well as stopping the run.

FYI... All the linebackers that started on last years team are also on this years team.

Quote from: Pat Coleman on December 05, 2015, 10:58:12 PM

Quote from: D3Warhawk on December 05, 2015, 10:43:15 PM
Only concern is the UWW secondary can't ever seem to come up with a big time play. We saw the last two years we could count on that secondary to do something great, now it's just, I don't know... Bland?

That secondary is a tough act to follow, right?

Am I asking too much?

Only concern is the UWW secondary can't ever seem to come up with a big time play. We saw the last two years we could count on that secondary to do something great, now it's just, I don't know... Bland?

Quote from: emma17 on December 05, 2015, 09:57:04 PM

Quote from: D3Warhawk on December 05, 2015, 08:52:14 PM

Quote from: BoBo on December 05, 2015, 08:46:51 PM

Quote from: bleedpurple on December 05, 2015, 08:26:07 PM

Quote from: 02 Warhawk on December 05, 2015, 08:08:30 PM
Wow...tough game to swallow for the UWO kicker today. Missed extra point seemed to cost them the game. If UWO makes all their extra points, the game would have most likely went into OT.

I still don't understand those squib kicks in the second half? UWW took full advantage of getting the ball at mid field by scoring three times in the 3rd quarter. I realize they were into the wind, but still don't give UWW half the field to work with.

Both offenses and defenses made great plays today...but I think the differnce was special teams.

I believe that it is a mistake for a team to give a team the ball and the wind like the Titans did in the third quarter today. I know having the wind in the fourth quarter helped them win the first game, but this was a different type game. I remember two other games in which teams did that over the past few years against UW-W. The other two got blown out and had no chance by the time the fourth quarter started. The Titans were on the verge of being blown out also (31-16), but they made big plays and had stops on defense to give themselves a real chance. I just feel like giving UW-W both the ball and the wind to start the 3rd quarter increased the likelihood that the Titans would be playing catch up.

Oshkosh probably felt like I did, kick it to a LB (Hoppe), he's going to stop the ball and fall on it. Only he didn't. I cringed the first time he scooped it up and ran (until the play was safely over) and cringed again, doubly, the second time he did it (again until the whistle blew and all was ok). I worked out well for WW but could have easily backfired with a fumble turnover or 2. Hoppe doesn't need to take the risk of returning those kicks.

Fortune favors the bold my friend!

I love Hoppe's attitude toward football, he seems like a great teammate.  As for his kick returns, I approached him after the game to congratulate him as the new UWW kick returner, figuring he'd get a kick out of it.  His reply was a purely serious "thanks man", that left me with no doubt that he truly sees that as his job, and in fact, that's what UWO gets for kicking to him.

Speaking from experience, Hoppe is the best teammate a guy can ask for.

Quote from: HScoach on December 05, 2015, 09:33:17 PM
Mount's D is a little better than last year.  But getting banged up.

Is Mount better than a 42 point effort from UWW last year? I'm hearing different things from this board haha

Quote from: purple on December 05, 2015, 09:42:07 PM
I don't care who is playing defense; when your opponent has a great quarterback , a good game plan, and really good receivers, they are going to rack up yards and score points. Wesley is a very good football team, by far the best we played this year. But for the turnovers, and the ten yard punt, they could have won. I cannot imagine WWW has anything close to the passing attack Wesley has, and we should be able to outscore WWW.

Only argument here is UWW can POUND THE ROCK and I think can control the clock I think. If this turns into a shootout UWW has no shot.

So is all of this worry about Mounts D warranted or overreaction?

Quote from: BoBo on December 05, 2015, 08:46:51 PM

Quote from: bleedpurple on December 05, 2015, 08:26:07 PM

Quote from: 02 Warhawk on December 05, 2015, 08:08:30 PM
Wow...tough game to swallow for the UWO kicker today. Missed extra point seemed to cost them the game. If UWO makes all their extra points, the game would have most likely went into OT.

I still don't understand those squib kicks in the second half? UWW took full advantage of getting the ball at mid field by scoring three times in the 3rd quarter. I realize they were into the wind, but still don't give UWW half the field to work with.

Both offenses and defenses made great plays today...but I think the differnce was special teams.

I believe that it is a mistake for a team to give a team the ball and the wind like the Titans did in the third quarter today. I know having the wind in the fourth quarter helped them win the first game, but this was a different type game. I remember two other games in which teams did that over the past few years against UW-W. The other two got blown out and had no chance by the time the fourth quarter started. The Titans were on the verge of being blown out also (31-16), but they made big plays and had stops on defense to give themselves a real chance. I just feel like giving UW-W both the ball and the wind to start the 3rd quarter increased the likelihood that the Titans would be playing catch up.

Oshkosh probably felt like I did, kick it to a LB (Hoppe), he's going to stop the ball and fall on it. Only he didn't. I cringed the first time he scooped it up and ran (until the play was safely over) and cringed again, doubly, the second time he did it (again until the whistle blew and all was ok). I worked out well for WW but could have easily backfired with a fumble turnover or 2. Hoppe doesn't need to take the risk of returning those kicks.

Fortune favors the bold my friend!