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#1
Quote from: PurpleTide on June 06, 2019, 02:37:57 PM
Quote from: art76 on June 06, 2019, 11:28:28 AM
Quote from: USTBench on June 06, 2019, 10:34:58 AM
Quote from: art76 on June 05, 2019, 05:45:46 PM
Quote from: USTBench on June 05, 2019, 05:39:48 PM
This decision has essentially doomed UST to a decade plus long purgatory that SJU will soon be cast into. Adversity can make strange bedfellows, but I think if SJU/CSB was smart, they'd start talking about making a transition with UST, so at least both (all) schools have something to look forward to for the next decade and change.

Bench, you seem to be pretty savvy concerning the different conferences in the area. I posited in an earlier post that perhaps the top 4 teams in the MIAC "simply" take their ball and form an entirely new Division 3 conference? From where you sit, is there any chance something like this could be done?

Personally, I don't see UST being able to convince enough schools to make a new conference a viable solution, at least at the Division III level.

However, if I was tasked with making such a conference a reality, here are the schools I would target, factoring in academic profile, endowment, what sports they currently sponsor, their ability to compete and geography:

UST (obviously)
SJU/CSB
Bethel
Gustavus
CSS
UNW
Concordia
University of Jamestown
University of Mary

Currently the University of Mary plays Division II and in the NSIC, but this was done out of necessity when the old NAIA DAC 10 split up into a thousand different directions. Minot State fits the Division II and NSIC profile much better than Mary, but it's been a very tough adjustment for both of them (Mary went 1-10 in football last year).

The DAC 10 members that continue to play in the NAIA are often geographically isolated, forced to play schools twice in a year, and schedule games against teams so far above or below their competition level it borders on absurd. For instance, Mayville State plays Trinity Bible one week this year, then travels to Merrimack College in Massachusetts the next week, a school that will be starting its transition into Division 1. Jamestown has it far better than Mayville State in terms of this arrangement, but I still believe the University of Jamestown would jump at the chance to play in a viable Division III conference with two schools nearby.

I would seek to arrange a consistent Thursday/Saturday travel schedule (for hoops, volleyball, wrestling, etc), where one school gets a bye week per season. Then you've got travel partners for games in Jamestown and Bismarck (Bismarck is a 7 hour drive from Duluth or St. Peter, and a 6 hour drive from Minneapolis/St. Paul). Concordia stands to gain the most from a conference like this as they are often the only school in the MIAC with a burdensome travel schedule and this would at least give them a few teams a bit more locally to play, as they would be smack dab in the middle of the 1-94/Highway 10 corridor.

The other nice thing is Mary and Jamestown both sponsor ACHA Division 1 (high level club) hockey so sponsoring Division III hockey would be an easy transition. I think Mary wouldn't mind unloading their athletic scholarships and Jamestown wouldn't mind shaving some time off their travel schedule and raising their profile a bit.

Of course, this is a pretty pie-in-the-sky hope. The same concerns remain: UST's endowment dwarfs that of the 4 new schools I suggested, their location gives them a significant recruiting advantage, and UST's ambitions while still undefined, are probably loftier than the conference I suggested.

Thanx for the input Bench! +K

Discounting those of us on this board, would anyone else in the "real world" be willing to take this on? My career is in the wrong field entirely, and wouldn't even know who's ear to bend to have them consider this. So, I ask everyone on this board again, who could/would be a person with enough clout to make something like this happen? Does anyone know a friend of a friend to send out some "feelers"?

I still am of the opinion that there is going to be some hard feelings played out on the field over the next couple of years, and probably longer, even after the Tommies leave the MIAC as things stand now. I'm thinking there are a lot of folks who would get behind "something new", provided it is done well.

I nominate Mark Dienhart and Steve Fritz to lead the effort to form a new conference. They would do it right.
Background on Dienhart and Fritz.
https://www.tommiesports.com/sports/fball/2017-18/releases/20180411hseehw
https://www.miacathletics.com/general/2018-19/releases/20190508p0coiv

#2
Quote from: art76 on June 06, 2019, 11:28:28 AM
Quote from: USTBench on June 06, 2019, 10:34:58 AM
Quote from: art76 on June 05, 2019, 05:45:46 PM
Quote from: USTBench on June 05, 2019, 05:39:48 PM
This decision has essentially doomed UST to a decade plus long purgatory that SJU will soon be cast into. Adversity can make strange bedfellows, but I think if SJU/CSB was smart, they'd start talking about making a transition with UST, so at least both (all) schools have something to look forward to for the next decade and change.

Bench, you seem to be pretty savvy concerning the different conferences in the area. I posited in an earlier post that perhaps the top 4 teams in the MIAC "simply" take their ball and form an entirely new Division 3 conference? From where you sit, is there any chance something like this could be done?

Personally, I don't see UST being able to convince enough schools to make a new conference a viable solution, at least at the Division III level.

However, if I was tasked with making such a conference a reality, here are the schools I would target, factoring in academic profile, endowment, what sports they currently sponsor, their ability to compete and geography:

UST (obviously)
SJU/CSB
Bethel
Gustavus
CSS
UNW
Concordia
University of Jamestown
University of Mary

Currently the University of Mary plays Division II and in the NSIC, but this was done out of necessity when the old NAIA DAC 10 split up into a thousand different directions. Minot State fits the Division II and NSIC profile much better than Mary, but it's been a very tough adjustment for both of them (Mary went 1-10 in football last year).

The DAC 10 members that continue to play in the NAIA are often geographically isolated, forced to play schools twice in a year, and schedule games against teams so far above or below their competition level it borders on absurd. For instance, Mayville State plays Trinity Bible one week this year, then travels to Merrimack College in Massachusetts the next week, a school that will be starting its transition into Division 1. Jamestown has it far better than Mayville State in terms of this arrangement, but I still believe the University of Jamestown would jump at the chance to play in a viable Division III conference with two schools nearby.

I would seek to arrange a consistent Thursday/Saturday travel schedule (for hoops, volleyball, wrestling, etc), where one school gets a bye week per season. Then you've got travel partners for games in Jamestown and Bismarck (Bismarck is a 7 hour drive from Duluth or St. Peter, and a 6 hour drive from Minneapolis/St. Paul). Concordia stands to gain the most from a conference like this as they are often the only school in the MIAC with a burdensome travel schedule and this would at least give them a few teams a bit more locally to play, as they would be smack dab in the middle of the 1-94/Highway 10 corridor.

The other nice thing is Mary and Jamestown both sponsor ACHA Division 1 (high level club) hockey so sponsoring Division III hockey would be an easy transition. I think Mary wouldn't mind unloading their athletic scholarships and Jamestown wouldn't mind shaving some time off their travel schedule and raising their profile a bit.

Of course, this is a pretty pie-in-the-sky hope. The same concerns remain: UST's endowment dwarfs that of the 4 new schools I suggested, their location gives them a significant recruiting advantage, and UST's ambitions while still undefined, are probably loftier than the conference I suggested.

Thanx for the input Bench! +K

Discounting those of us on this board, would anyone else in the "real world" be willing to take this on? My career is in the wrong field entirely, and wouldn't even know who's ear to bend to have them consider this. So, I ask everyone on this board again, who could/would be a person with enough clout to make something like this happen? Does anyone know a friend of a friend to send out some "feelers"?

I still am of the opinion that there is going to be some hard feelings played out on the field over the next couple of years, and probably longer, even after the Tommies leave the MIAC as things stand now. I'm thinking there are a lot of folks who would get behind "something new", provided it is done well.

I nominate Mark Dienhart and Steve Fritz to lead the effort to form a new conference. They would do it right.
#3
Quote from: miac952 on June 04, 2019, 11:42:40 AM
When an English PhD College President and a PR professional come together to craft a letter to the editor you get gems like this:

QuoteWe let the MIAC media statement stand without further comment because we understood that we had agreed to do so.

::)

A lot of words, no substance, Dr. Craft. I fully understand the need for the gag order. Every time they talk or write they dig the whole a little deeper. Pribbenow email, media statement, letter to the editor.

According to the English PhD College President and the PR professional, UST was not forced out of the MIAC, they were "led to leave".
#4
I believe the following is the first communication about TommieToss from an MIAC President, other than UST's Julie Sullivan. It is a letter written by William Craft, President of Concordia College, to the Forum Newspaper of Fargo-Moorhead.

President Craft opens his letter by recognizing that "there has been indignation that St. Thomas would be led to leave for "winning too much," and indignation that the MIAC presidents haven't been willing to say more than what appeared in the press release and on the MIAC website." The remainder of his letter is an attempt to explain and justify the actions of the MIAC Presidents.

https://www.inforum.com/opinion/letters/1355558-Letter-Preservation-of-the-MIACs-future
#5
Quote from: OzJohnnie on May 23, 2019, 06:03:16 PM
Quote from: PurpleTide on May 23, 2019, 05:57:16 PM
Today on ESPN's Pardon The Interruption, Tony Kornheiser and Michael Wilbon went off on the MIAC for booting out St Thomas. They were screaming back and forth criticizing the removal of a team for being too good. MIAC went from great PR when College Game Day celebrated Tommie/Johnnie game in Collegeville to pathetic PR for this wimpy move.

SJU stuck by UST. It would be nice to see UST stick by SJU in return and try to stop the demolition of our conference.

I have huge respect for SJU, CSB and Bethel for sticking by UST. But, the MIAC gave UST the boot and the MIAC is getting ripped for it. Don't blame me for pointing it out.
As you say, the MIAC changed this week from being OUR conference to YOUR conference. I played for UST in the 70's and the MIAC has been part of my life for almost 50 years. I am grieving the loss.
(Btw, johnnies suck)
#6
Today on ESPN's Pardon The Interruption, Tony Kornheiser and Michael Wilbon went off on the MIAC for booting out St Thomas. They were screaming back and forth criticizing the removal of a team for being too good. MIAC went from great PR when College Game Day celebrated Tommie/Johnnie game in Collegeville to pathetic PR for this wimpy move.
#7
Quote from: merlecanlas on November 29, 2017, 02:43:02 PM
Quote from: Toph on November 29, 2017, 02:25:22 PM
Quote from: Ereraider on November 29, 2017, 11:36:39 AM
Why is everyone out to convict this kid without knowing all the facts. Let the process play out. I'm not sure we know only half of the story.

So are you disputing that he failed to appear for battery charges, was arrested the week before last due to that outstanding warrant and was booked for driving on a suspended license, or that he failed to appear this week for the traffic ticket?

No one is trying to convict anyone of anything.  When you are supposed to appear before a court of law, you show up.

I know nothing about the FL charges, nobody on here knows anything.  His traffic ticket said he didn't have to appear.  Neither you or I would have shown up to court either.


Merle, I don't agree with your logic. However, I applaud you for your tenaciousness. If you played football, I bet you played on the defensive side of the ball. Cornerback perhaps?
#8
The following is a link to "Tommie Chalk Talk", hosted by the 3 UST students. They preview the MU-UST matchup with some pretty good insights for college kids. My favorite was when they said playing Mount Union was like playing a team with the running game of St Johns, the high flying passing attack of Gustavus, and the dual threat QB of Augsburg.

http://www.tommiemedia.com/sports/tommie-chalk-talk-dec-15-2015/
#9
I just returned from the Stagg Bowl stadium and the parking lots are filling up with Mount Union tailgaters. Not many UST fans yet. Weather is cloudy, cold and windy --- perfect for a team from Minnesota that likes to run the ball. Go Tommies!
#10
Quote from: Reverend MIAC on December 14, 2015, 05:40:34 PM
Quote from: jamtoTommie on December 14, 2015, 03:22:38 PM
Quote from: wm4 on December 13, 2015, 03:42:09 PM
Quote from: Johns Knees on December 13, 2015, 02:45:01 PM
Congrats to the Tommies! As a Johnnie, I usually hate the Tommies. But this team isn't hard to root for.

The coach, on the other hand...Anyone catch Glenn on SId's show this morning? DId a good job figuring out what the hell Sid was trying to say, but bristled when Dave Lee suggested that their facilities had anything to do with his success. Then he rambled about how he wants recruits to get a feel for the place..blah blah blah. You better not dare question that recruiting and facilities have lead to his success - it's all Glenn :).

Link to listen?  Would love to hear for my own ears the part where he bristles.
I tracked down the link and I am about to listen:
http://minnesota.cbslocal.com/audio/sports-huddle-with-sid-and-dave/

I just listened to this very reasonable interview with Coach Caruso. Either the haters are scraping the bottom of the barrel for stuff to discredit Caruso or they've grown absolutely delusional.


When the leaders of St Thomas decided to hire a new football coach back in 2007, they only had 2 requirements:
1.   Compete for a National Championship on a regular basis.
2.   Cause constant consternation to as many Johnnies as possible.
After 8 seasons it is obvious they chose the right man for the job!


#11
General football / Re: D3 Top 25 Fan Poll
December 12, 2015, 07:45:55 PM
Quote from: Walla Walla Wildcat on December 08, 2015, 04:21:39 PM
I was asked how I would rank the Top teams - specifically Wabash, JHU, and Thomas More.  I'm going to stick to my earlier ranking process:

#1 UWW until proven otherwise
#2 MUC until proven otherwise
#3 Linfield
#4 St Thomas
#5 MHB
#6 UWO
#7 Wheaton
#8 Wesley
#9 St Johns
#10 UWP
#11 Hardin Simmons
#12 Wabash
#13 North Central
#14 JHU
#15 Thomas More

I'll adjust these after the semi's if need be.


I guess it is time for you to adjust.
#12
Tommies have pulled starters with 12 min left in 4th qtr
#13
Tommies have pulled starters with 12 min left in 4th qtr
#14
How did that philosophy work for Dubuqe and the Johnnies?
#15
Quote from: DuffMan on November 26, 2015, 10:25:49 AM
Happy Thanksgiving!


Billy says to his mom: I want to be a Johnnie when I grow up.
– Mom: But Billy, you know you can't do both.