Quote from: AndOne on February 25, 2020, 05:05:21 PM
Again, I sense Kedrowski's absence is due in large part, to Carthage's place in the final conference standings. 🤔
The 6th place team isn't getting more than one representative, and that was always going to be Baltimore.

If you pull up this years stats, they're pretty comparable but I'd still give the edge to Kedrowski. He certainly seemed to be the better teammate this year.

Quote from: augie77 on February 25, 2020, 05:13:21 PM
I'm happy with Augustana's three selections, but must comment that all conference teams really should be based on a player's performance--not based on some arbitrary guideline of how many players each team is "entitled" to based on their league standing.

Agree 100%!!

Quote from: lmitzel on February 25, 2020, 03:06:48 PM

Quote from: Hightops on February 25, 2020, 03:02:54 PM
I have a hard time understanding why Derek Dotlich was not a first team selection:

* Senior who played all 25 games and averaged 32.2 minutes (top seven in minutes played).
* 4th leading scorer in the conference with 16.3ppg.
* Top 10 in FG% @ 414%.
* Top Free throw shooter in the conference at 94%
* Conference Leader in average 3pt FG makes per game with 3.

Head scratcher for sure...

Who on the First Team would you swap Dotlich in for?

(I don't necessarily disagree; I probably would have had him on the First Team as well, but it's the question to ask.)

I would have placed him on the first team over Matt Leritz, IWU.  While Leritz has a good body of work as of late, Dotlich was good for the entire year.

I have a hard time understanding why Derek Dotlich was not a first team selection:

* Senior who played all 25 games and averaged 32.2 minutes (top seven in minutes played).
* 4th leading scorer in the conference with 16.3ppg.
* Top 10 in FG% @ 414%.
* Top Free throw shooter in the conference at 94%
* Conference Leader in average 3pt FG makes per game with 3.

Head scratcher for sure...

The two losses by Elmhurst this year can be directly connected to technical fouls at inopportune times.  The Bluejays were tagged with three "T's" that lead to North Central points - That game was decided by two points.  In Rock Island last night, a late "T" let Augustana back in the game with a four point swing and disqualification of center, Lavon Thomas.  Those things are self inflicted.

The Jack MacDonald situation is a unfortunate.  No one associated with Augustana would fault him for deciding that the school wasn't a good fit.  In fact, I believe they would wish him nothing but the best. Unfortunaltely, It appears they didn't get that chance since he notified them via text after he had left campus.  Tough situation for a 17/18 year old, and appears he might have been getting some puzzling advice from the homefront.  Hope the future holds bright things for him.

 Interesting one at the Carver Center tonight to say the least.  One coach was ejected after throwing his sport coat late in the game - and it wasn't the coach who you would normally associate with that action.  Coach Baines watched his team give up a lead they had for the majority of the second half, and blew a gasket when Derek Dotlich was called or a charge with less than one second on the clock and his Bluejays down one point.  Baines penetrated into the elbow area after the call and ripped off his jacket and threw it towards the scorer's table.  As you might expect, he was accessed two technicals and ejected.  Nolan Ebel made all four free throws and Augustana wins by five.  I believe Coach Giovanine holds the record for most jacket throwing attempts, but Coach Baines might have moved into first place for velocity and or distance with tonight's attempt. 

Quote from: AndOne on July 17, 2018, 02:09:42 PM
Catching scent of a rumor that has begun wafting on the summer circuit breeze. It centers on the possibility that a certain former star player, whose academic/athletic collegiate career was recently interrupted, may return to the classroom and court in the upcoming year/season. 😯

Important to point out that, to date, only one note of this possible symphony has been sounded. So, it remains to be seen if it's composer was playing the joker, or if the composition might move from the adagio stage to andante. 🤗

Interesting possibility. 🤔

Don't tease us, just tell us that Jordan Robinson might play @ North Central this year

Quote from: AndOne on December 07, 2017, 04:56:58 PM
Augie - 79
NCC — 72

A seven point loss to the #4 team in the country. On the face of things, not bad. The problem however, and I know the Augie posters will disagree, is that North Central should have won this game. The W was right there for the taking. I mean make some frickin' layups and shoot 75% from the line, and the bus ride home is a lot more lively.

Three times down the stretch, the Cardinals missed layups that they could usually make in their sleep. Finish those drives, and make 2 more FTs (to make the % 75), and board the bus to Happy Land rather than Sad Town. This is probably a bit of oversimplification, but master the fundamentals and subsequent maneuvers come a little easier.

NCC was led in scoring by Connor Raridon with 20. Mike Pollack had 12 (4 threes), and Erwin Henry 10. Alex Sorenson was the leading rebounder with 7. Augie's scoring leader was Nolan Ebel with a very quiet 18 points. After the game I was amazed he had that many, but that's often how good players operate. Chrishawn Orange had 16 (also AC's top rebounder with 7), and Brett Benning had 15 including a couple of threes from the Iowa side of the Mississippi.

However, in my book, the Augie player who stood out the most, and seemed to provide the Vikings with their biggest spark, was A.J. Dollmeyer. He was 4/5 from the field, and 2/2 from the line with all of his points seemingly "big" ones, especially his halftime buzzer beater which sent the home team to the locker room with an 8 point lead. Dollmeyer, perhaps Augie's #4 center was easily the most effective, easily surpassing the contributions of starter Micah Martin (2 absolutely stupid fouls within about 30 seconds), and fellow backups Donovan Ferguson, and Roman Youngblut, both of whom were basically invisible.

Officiating

An embarrassment to the CCIW. I see refs at many high school games who have it all over these guys. Many dismemberments, often in an open area of the court, took place before blind eyes, and many defenders whose only crime was being in the vicinity of the Carver Center were whistled for infractions. The way the game was called made it practically impossible to play any kind of interior defense. Breathe on your guy too hard and it's a foul. Two centers on each team were disqualified, and a total of 28 fouls were called on the 7 centers who saw action. NCC's starter Alex Sorenson saddled with 2 calls that were especially outrageous. Ridiculous.
And - Before you mistake my comments for a losing fan just bitching, please consider the fact that seated right behind myself and 2 other Cardinal fans were two younger senior gentlemen who are Augie fans who never miss a game, and from whose comments it is evident, know the game well. Both indicated that they have seen this officiating crew several times before, and that their work can almost always be classified as egregious. Several times during the game they both opined the call, either a call or no-call, was wrong even when it went in Augie's favor.

The officiating crew was Dotson, Kasirsky, and Gerlach.  Dotson has worked the Division III National Championship game along with some additional deep tournament runs in the past five years.  I don't recall ever seeing the other two work a game at Augustana and certainly not as a crew.  With that being said, it is surprising that the conference wouldn't put a veteran crew on this game. 

The Statue

Each Augie game features a group of students, I believe mostly football players whose buffoonery aptly reflects the discipline embodied in their recent record, who stand near center court and "cheer" throughout the game. Last night there were, fortunately, only 5 of them. Rather than being original, insightful, or entertaining, a majority of their comments always seem to be over the top personal attacks on the opposition. The two adult fans I referred to above with regard to the officiating PLUS several other adult Augie fans said they feel these students are usually "disruptive" rather than adding anything positive to the proceedings.
However, the really crazy thing about the group is that there is almost always an adult standing right next to the first row of these students who just stands there throughout the game, but never utters a word. This guy, evidently deaf and dumb and undoubtedly a member of the Augustana administration, just stands there like a statue. He never tells the canines to sit down, shut up, or even bark or roll over. Just stands there, in Venus de Milo mode, silent with his arms folded across his chest in a manner rendering them difficult to be seen.

Now you sound like a losing fan just bitching.

Quote from: AndOne on December 07, 2017, 04:56:58 PM* Lastly, congrats to North Central's Alex Sorenson who last night surpassed the 1,000 point mark (1,005 currently) in only his 62nd game in a Cardinal uniform.

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Quote from: AndOne on February 03, 2017, 12:49:29 PM

Quote from: Hightops on February 03, 2017, 12:20:56 PM

Quote from: AndOne on February 02, 2017, 09:07:47 PM

Quote from: Gregory Sager on February 01, 2017, 10:09:03 PM

Quote from: 4samuy on February 01, 2017, 09:51:17 PM
WOW!   Shauers post game comments specifically called out the Augustana football players for some of the comments made during the game. He did congratulate Giovanine and the players, but I didn't know he had such a good grasp of the Augie football roster.  Very strange.

Well, to be fair to Mike Schauer, it's usually not hard to determine whether or not a group of college-aged males are football players, even if you don't know who they are.

He really did lay into those Augie football players, though. He said that he complained to Grey about them, and that he's going to give Chris Martin a phone call about them, too. I didn't have the sound up on that game the whole way through (I got tired of the Wheaton broadcasters referring to Dylan "Sore-tee-ya"), but I did hear a popular barnyard epithet chanted a few times from what sounded like a group of males not too far from the camera mic after calls went against Augie.

For several years the most outrageously over-the-line student basketball fans have been those at Augustana. I'm talking about the group of 20-30 that sits/stands in the first couple of rows of bleachers right at about mid court. I don't know if they are football players or not, but I suspect that at least a good percentage are. They regularly assail visiting coaches and players with a variety of obscene comments and otherwise behave like hyenas. I've seen several occasions, both in person and when I've watched Augie home games, when a visiting team had the ball out right near this group and the students stood up literally within a foot or two of the player throwing the ball in, screaming and waving their arms back and forth. The thing is the Augie authorities have never made any move to control the students in any way. Essentially, they are enabling the students obnoxious behavior. Perhaps a good portion of the students who were at Wheaton were members of this group and acted in the same manner that they have been allowed to get away with back on their home turf.

This is simply not true Andone.  For the past several years, the Augustana athletic director has stood off to the left of the student section at Carver and closely monitored their actions and words.  In fact, if you arrive early enough you will see him interacting with alot of the Carver Crazies as they have a good relationship.  I would go one step further and say that CCIW game officials would tell you that Augustana game management is one of the most visible and accessible in the conference.

I will assume that the situation you describe is often the case, Hightops.

However, I have personally been at games where the "Carver Crazies," as you refer to them, have indeed been allowed to go crazy. Profanities directed at opposing coaches and players, students actually on the playing floor-which is only a couple of feet/steps from where they stand in front of the first row of bleachers. I've even been at games at Carver where an adult was positioned near the student horde, but did little or nothing to curtail their outrageous behavior to any measurable degree.

So, while I'm sure they are well behaved on occasion, I assure you such is not always the case.
Also, are most or many of the "crazies" football players?
And, if they are so well behaved at Carver, how do you account for the highly divergent behavior as described by Wheaton Coach Schauer on their recent visit to King Arena?

I don't know the make up of the Carver Crazies besides being students and I don't the exact facts of what happened at Wheaton so I shouldn't speculate.  Which was my point to you on speculating about how "Augie authorities have never made any move..."  Leave the alternative facts to President Trump.   

Quote from: AndOne on February 02, 2017, 09:07:47 PM

Quote from: Gregory Sager on February 01, 2017, 10:09:03 PM

Quote from: 4samuy on February 01, 2017, 09:51:17 PM
WOW!   Shauers post game comments specifically called out the Augustana football players for some of the comments made during the game. He did congratulate Giovanine and the players, but I didn't know he had such a good grasp of the Augie football roster.  Very strange.

Well, to be fair to Mike Schauer, it's usually not hard to determine whether or not a group of college-aged males are football players, even if you don't know who they are.

He really did lay into those Augie football players, though. He said that he complained to Grey about them, and that he's going to give Chris Martin a phone call about them, too. I didn't have the sound up on that game the whole way through (I got tired of the Wheaton broadcasters referring to Dylan "Sore-tee-ya"), but I did hear a popular barnyard epithet chanted a few times from what sounded like a group of males not too far from the camera mic after calls went against Augie.

For several years the most outrageously over-the-line student basketball fans have been those at Augustana. I'm talking about the group of 20-30 that sits/stands in the first couple of rows of bleachers right at about mid court. I don't know if they are football players or not, but I suspect that at least a good percentage are. They regularly assail visiting coaches and players with a variety of obscene comments and otherwise behave like hyenas. I've seen several occasions, both in person and when I've watched Augie home games, when a visiting team had the ball out right near this group and the students stood up literally within a foot or two of the player throwing the ball in, screaming and waving their arms back and forth. The thing is the Augie authorities have never made any move to control the students in any way. Essentially, they are enabling the students obnoxious behavior. Perhaps a good portion of the students who were at Wheaton were members of this group and acted in the same manner that they have been allowed to get away with back on their home turf.

WRONGThis is simply not true Andone.  For the past several years, the Augustana athletic director has stood off to the left of the student section at Carver and closely monitored their actions and words.  In fact, if you arrive early enough you will see him interacting with alot of the Carver Crazies as they have a good relationship.  I would go one step further and say that CCIW game officials would tell you that Augustana game management is one of the most visible and accessible in the conference.

Quote from: Gregory Sager on February 01, 2017, 10:09:03 PM

Quote from: 4samuy on February 01, 2017, 09:51:17 PM
WOW!   Shauers post game comments specifically called out the Augustana football players for some of the comments made during the game. He did congratulate Giovanine and the players, but I didn't know he had such a good grasp of the Augie football roster.  Very strange.

Well, to be fair to Mike Schauer, it's usually not hard to determine whether or not a group of college-aged males are football players, even if you don't know who they are.

He really did lay into those Augie football players, though. He said that he complained to Grey about them, and that he's going to give Chris Martin a phone call about them, too. I didn't have the sound up on that game the whole way through (I got tired of the Wheaton broadcasters referring to Dylan "Sore-tee-ya"), but I did hear a popular barnyard epithet chanted a few times from what sounded like a group of males not too far from the camera mic after calls went against Augie.

My question would be this - The game was played on their home court.  If things were that bad why wasn't game management more proactive in dealing with it OR the coach quietly asking at halftime to have the situation addressed?  Making statements about if after the game only makes a coach look like a sore loser.

Quote from: Gregory Sager on January 10, 2017, 11:16:36 PM
Now that this site is back up, I can report that Carthage (11-3) eked out a win over Illinois Tech (10-5) tonight in Tarble by a score of 81-79 on a pair of Kevin Kozil free throws with 3.9 seconds remaining. The Red Man blew what had been a 12-point lead with under ten minutes to go, as the Scarlet Hawks pulled even a couple of times in the final minute, but they never went ahead. Mike Stevenson led the way with 20 points and was joined in double figures by Jordan Thomas with 16 and Kienen Baltimore with 11, while Brad Kruse pulled down 10 rebounds. The win negated really fine performances by Whitney Young grad Anthony Moseley, Jr. (24 pts and 10 asts) and DePaul Prep grad Sam Rarick (22 pts and 8 rebs).

Anyone else think that Russia is behind the site going down temporarily? 😳

Quote from: Titan Q on January 08, 2017, 09:57:51 AM
IWU travels to Augustana Wednesday.  Should be another great game between these two.

Last 5 years:
  * IWU: 52 CCIW wins; 2 titles; 11 NCAA wins
  * Augie: 50 CCIW wins, 2 titles, 8 NCAA wins

Two outstanding programs and a great rivalry.

In the last 5 years, IWU had the Overstreet, Ziemnik, Davis, etc group and then Augie had the Hill, Ryan, Johnson, etc group (both making Salem runs).  I believe 2016-17 is the most even these two programs have been.  I don't see any separation between IWU and Augie heading into the game Wednesday.

Some great matchups. Top 8 for both...

Augustana
G - Nolan Ebel, 6-1 So.  10.8 ppg, 2.7 rpg, 3.9 apg
G - Chrishawn Orange, 6-2 So.  11.6 ppg, 2.6 rpg, 2.1 apg
G - Dylan Sortillo, 6-3 Jr.  14.4 ppg, 3.8 rpg, 2.2 apg
F - Jacob Johnston, 6-5 Sr.  13.5 ppg, 5.2 rpg
C - Micah Martin, 6-10 Fr.  2.7 ppg, 2.2 rpg

F - Pierson Wofford, 6-4 So.  9.5 ppg, 3.9 rpg
G - Brett Benning, 6-6 So.  8.0 ppg, 2.8 rpg
C - A.J. Dollmeyer, 6-8 Jr.  5.6 ppg, 2.8 rpg

Illinois Wesleyan
G - Brady Rose, 6-3 Jr.  14.2 ppg, 2.5 rpg, 3.2 apg
G - Colin Bonnett, 6-4 So.  9.5 ppg, 2.4 rpg, 2.1 apg
G - Andy Stempel, 6-4 Sr.  12.2 ppg, 4.6 rpg, 2.9 apg
F - Alec Bausch, 6-6 Sr.  8.8 ppg, 5.7 rpg
C - Trevor Seibring, 6-8 Sr.  12.9 ppg, 5.9 rpg

G - Nick Coleman, 6-1 So. 8.1 ppg, 2.4 apg
F - Jaylen Beasley, 6-6 Jr.  5.4 ppg, 4.5 rpg
G - Austin Amann, 6-3 Sr.  4.1 ppg, 2.4 rpg


I'll be surprised if this one isn't very close from start to finish.

Massey has Augie #10 and IWU #13...neither is in the current D3hoops.com Top 25. (I believe both are top 15-20 teams.)

If you factor in the CCIW tournament...
*IWU:  54 wins, 2 titles, 11 NCAA wins
*Augustana: 55 wins, 4 titles, 8 NCAA wins