Quote from: nescac1 on February 27, 2022, 03:27:17 PM
Agree.  Heck of a game. Congrats to Wes on a well-earned title.  These teams are dead even and two of the best in the country.  It's gonna take a great effort to beat either in the tourney.  Role guys really stepped up for both teams.  Jordan James and Nicky Johnson were huge for Wes but so were Maccoux, Walker, and Ravetz, all of whom made huge shots.  Jovan Jones had a stellar two-way game for the Ephs (he has to be DPOY in Nescac) and all five bench guys had big moments for Williams, especially Arnold, Glatzer and Roughley.  Hope these teams meet again and if they do that it's deep in the tourney ...

Flip side: Peek was LOCKED down. Fantastically defended all game.

CARDS WIN! FIRST NESCAC CHAMPIONSHIP FOR SILLOWAY GYMNASIUM!

Quote from: toad22 on February 19, 2022, 09:17:35 PM
What are the odds of an upset tomorrow? I would guess that the odds in all the games are low, but my pick would be Trinity upsetting Tufts. Callahan-Gold needs to stay hot, but I think they have a decent chance.

Great pick.

Quote from: nescac1 on February 08, 2022, 08:02:49 PM
Without getting into what Wesleyan did or didn't do, what Nescac team would not play as you call it "embarrassing basketball" down half its rotation with the rest unable to play 5 v 5 and barely able to practice at all for several weeks, and several who did play just recovered from COVID, vs an opponent at full strength?  Credit to the Williams guys who showed up and tried knowing they were nowhere close to game condition.  I mean, at full strength, Williams beat this team and not by accident.  You think Williams couldn't crush Wesleyan just as badly if it was down, say, Peek, Dezonie, James, DeLollo and Walker, and Johnson was at maybe 60 percent?  Just not fair to say a shell of a team (I mean a fourth-string guy was out there who's played barely a minute in his career due to injuries) "embarrassed" themselves.

Emphasis is less on Williams playing bad and more on posters acting as if Joe Reilly called timeout, said "let's make sure these kids feel terrible about themselves" and then put in his best guys to run up the score. I'm sure Williams will bounce back just fine.

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Quote from: JEFFFAN on February 08, 2022, 08:59:31 AM
Maybe it is just me but is anyone taken back a bit by the magnitude of the beatdown last night?   Sort of seems like piling on to me ...

The last person in the world I would expect to let up in a blowout would be Joe Reilly coaching in Chandler Gymnasium.

How about up 40 with less than 5 minutes left, subbing Jordan James back in to run an alley-oop play for him. Very bush league.

You don't have that stuff happen in games that you don't go down 40 in. Play embarrassing basketball, get embarrassed.

ROLL CARDS!

Quote from: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on January 18, 2022, 11:42:33 AM

I voted for Middlebury just slightly ahead of Tufts.  I had Amherst, Williams, and Wesleyan in a group of 8 schools I was debating for my final four spots.  In the end, I decided to leave them all off.  I've voted for all five teams at different points this season and still don't know what to make of any of them.

This year's NESCAC feels like a lot of good teams on paper who've struggled to figure themselves out on the floor.  I'm not confident Middlebury is the best team - in fact I doubt it - but they seem to actually be playing well right now and they're getting better every game.  That was enough for me.

I have been voting for Tufts, but if they can't get their whole team on the floor at the same time this weekend, that'll have to stop, the same way I stopped, this week, giving Amherst the benefit of the doubt when they can't seem to play up to their abilities.  I've not been super impressed with either Williams or Wesleyan.  Wesleyan clearly has a better resume, but it's not like a world beater or anything.

I can rank the NESCAC teams right now, because I'm asked to do so (Midd, Tufts, Amherst, Williams, and Wes, in that order, for what its worth), but I'm not confident in those rankings and I wouldn't argue with anyone who disagrees.  I'm just waiting to see the rest of the season play out.

At this point, anyone who thinks they know what's going on in this conference is fooling themselves.

How would this ranking conclusion be drawn? Just a gut call? At some point, it has to be acknowledged  - winning teams win.

Quote from: nescac1 on June 01, 2021, 11:23:43 AM
Cards Fan, that Trinity-Conn shot has to be the least-probable shot in NESCAC history, and certainly one of the most memorable.  What are some of the other really memorable shots from NESCAC action over the years?  I can think of (with videos):

- The Eric Savage deep three vs. Colby: https://www.gotuftsjumbos.com/sports/mbkb/2019-20/releases/20200301r42qh8 (2:19)
- The Andrew Olson three vs. Tufts in the NCAA tourney: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wNLDBaUncQs
- The Willy Workman FTA miss and put-back vs. Midd: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M3xeop5q-Pk
- The Tucker Kain three to send the game to OT vs. Amherst, after which he just list Amherst up in OT: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rSpqIoAmzCA
- Ryan Kilcullen game-winner vs. Amherst: https://vimeo.com/116439477
- James Heskett's controversial shot-clock beater vs. Amherst: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LdOyWeqgSsE
- Nathan Krill's game-winner in the NESCAC semis vs. Amherst: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RBaBNBZK9g8 (1:40)

I think I have to rank Olson's shot first given the combination of stakes, prominence of player involved, drama, crowd reaction, and insane degree-of-difficulty (and I still will take Olson first if I can pick any Amherst player I've ever seen, btw, the only NESCAC players of any sort I'd take over him are Mike Nogelo and of course Duncan Robinson). 

I'm sure I'm forgetting a ton (and there is definitely recency bias here, just because of memories that faded), but of those I recall, I rank them: (1) Olson, (2) Savage (incredible shot that ended up being determinative in a NESCAC title game, tough to top, but Olson somehow managed), (3) Workman (my memory did not exaggerate who insanely athletic this play was), (4) Trinity-Conn (lowest stakes but damn what a crazy shot), (5) Krill, (6) Tucker Kain (the play leading in was as beautiful as the shot, and it kept a huge Eph home winning streak alive), (7) Kilcullen (8) Heskett.  This list is a bit Williams-Amherst heavy just because those are the shots I best remember, I'm sure I'm missing a ton from other big NESCAC games!

Definitely unreal. I remember I had just put the game on with a couple minutes left in regulation to see if Conn could grind out their first win. Reminds me of UConn Cincinnati a few years ago, when Jalen Adams drilled a three-quarter courted  to send it to 4OT!

Now imagine if McCarthy didn't rim out on his three-quarter court heave after Krill's buzzer beater. Would surely be the most incredible shot I've ever seen in my life, given the stakes.

While we wait for the season, thought I'd put up a quick highlight that I never saw shown on here at the time! One of the most insane shots I've ever watched at any level of basketball.

https://youtube.com/shorts/cM4Vu6cUrxI?feature=share

Quote from: JEFFFAN on March 12, 2020, 12:06:04 PM

I havent read whether or not the NESCAC schools are going to let their teams participate in winter NCAA playoffs anymore, or if they are going to allow participation with conditions.   Any news on that?

Wesleyan hockey is playing in the NCAAs without spectators.

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Quote from: SpringSt7 on March 11, 2020, 03:18:49 PM
You're also at a point, especially in the NESCAC, where the vast majority of the seniors either already have jobs or are pretty close to lining up jobs. Would require a lot of hoops to jump through to make that work for them individually, which is too bad. I would imagine a good number of NESCAC lacrosse players in particular would be good pickups for D1s.

It's simply heartbreaking to think of what all of the students at these schools, especially Seniors, are going thru with this, not just athletes. Think back to your last semester of college and the times spent with so many fellow students many of whom remain lifelong friends.  These kids sadly are having what to many of us was the most special time of our young lives taken away from them in a heartbeat.  It's awful by any measure.   

High school, too: http://southingtonobserver.com/sports/state-high-school-tournaments-canceled-by-ciac/

Imagine being a high school senior, ready for your final games of your career in the biggest tournament, only to find out they're cancelled.

To put into perspective just how upsetting this is for players, here's the petition:

https://www.change.org/p/ciac-executive-director-glenn-lungarini-continue-ciac-winter-tournament-without-fans?signed=true

90,000 signatures. Crazy.

Quote from: grabtherim on March 11, 2020, 04:37:49 PM

Quote from: SpringSt7 on March 11, 2020, 03:18:49 PM
You're also at a point, especially in the NESCAC, where the vast majority of the seniors either already have jobs or are pretty close to lining up jobs. Would require a lot of hoops to jump through to make that work for them individually, which is too bad. I would imagine a good number of NESCAC lacrosse players in particular would be good pickups for D1s.

It's simply heartbreaking to think of what all of the students at these schools, especially Seniors, are going thru with this, not just athletes. Think back to your last semester of college and the times spent with so many fellow students many of whom remain lifelong friends.  These kids sadly are having what to many of us was the most special time of our young lives taken away from them in a heartbeat.  It's awful by any measure.   

High school, too: http://southingtonobserver.com/sports/state-high-school-tournaments-canceled-by-ciac/

Imagine being a high school senior, ready for your final games of your career in the biggest tournament, only to find out they're cancelled.

Being told the NESCAC is cancelling all spring sports. Cannot give sources, info will be released tomorrow I'm sure. Sad day for all NESCAC fans and athletes.

Quote from: SpringSt7 on March 04, 2020, 08:08:50 PM
Comparing the turnarounds from Colby and Tufts is a little lazy in my opinion. Tufts went 12-14, yes, but they also had 5 guys score in double digits, and beat Middlebury twice, including a playoff game in Pepin that really wasn't much of a fluke. They just couldn't guard a soul last year. How many NESCAC teams allow 85.5 points a game? All 5 of those guys returned, Rogers learned how to play more than 19 minutes a game, and collectively they took a step up defensively, which usually happens when you return your whole team.

Colby's gradual improvements every year deserve much more credit, instead of Strahorn being penalized for fielding a better team last year than Tufts, despite having similar, if not inferior, talent on paper. This year Jefferson took the jump from a fringe all-league guy to a legit All-American when healthy, Dorion was one of the best shooters in the country for most of the season, and despite returning almost his whole rotation, still found a way to build a lot of the offense around Will King, who no one had on their radar as a ROY candidate coming into the season.

This was a program turnaround, not a team turnaround. Tufts was preseason #6 in the country two years ago and missed the NCAA tournament.

Seems tough to make a statement you agree with on here. My posts aren't meant to be "lazy" - just really like looking into stats. Guess I'll have to change up my basis.
I wasn't trying to make a case solely based on turnarounds - just thought he could get some credit as well. I made it pretty clear I agreed that Strahorn had the better resume for COY. 

Quote from: lumbercat on March 04, 2020, 07:12:31 PM
As I've stated prior I have opinions on Strahorns game presence but I can't remember a better overall coaching job. With the exception of Weiner he has no size whatsoever but structured a great offensive scheme and most importantly he executed it game after game when everyone knew what was coming.

He lost the best shooter in the league down the stretch and Tufts needed a 25 footer at home to force that first overtime.

Not sure where Colby ranked in assists but they shared the ball brilliantly all year.

He was robbed.

Have to take his unreal turnaround of the program into account, too - not many coaches can make a 1-9 team the 2 seed within 2 seasons. There were so many nail biters that Colby took down the stretch that are heavily influenced by coaching. That's not to say that Sheldon didn't deserve this - two wins over Colby and a turnaround season of their own (12-14 last year) really does have an effect - but I absolutely agree that Strahorn was robbed.

Quote from: SpringSt7 on March 04, 2020, 01:47:08 PM
Also, what were the odds that of Robinson, Hutcherson, and Farrell, that only Farrell would make an all-league team the next year, and it was 2nd team? Or that last year might end up being Robinson and Hutcherson's (obviously) only year of 1st team recognition? Crazy stuff. Just goes to show how there are no guarantees in this league.

Wesleyan having Austin Hutcherson would literally have affected every single team's standings. So many of those losses would have been preventable with a lead-by-example type of guy out there. He brought out the shine in so many of Wesleyan's players' game. It's hard to believe he was out on the floor for them just last year.
I'm convinced that without him, Nathan Krill would have never shined through the way he did in his senior year, and the same for JR Bascom. He made everyone look better than they were.