Quote from: wally_wabash on October 26, 2017, 02:03:26 PM
I think it would be impossible for the selection committee to justify overriding game results, even in the unfortunate circumstance that Wooster endured this season.  I think the results have to stand on their own, and two losses are going to be a tough thing for any team trying to get an at-large bid.  I do think Pool A is the more likely route for Wooster than Pool C.  The results that I outlined needing to happen are not outrageous.

Thanks wally, this gives me a clear picture of what needs to happen.

Quote from: wally_wabash on October 26, 2017, 01:42:27 PM

Quote from: Exiled_Noble99 on October 26, 2017, 01:29:54 PM
Wally is there anyway Wooster gets a C bid if they win out? Suppose Wittenberg is undefeated that last game and Wooster beats them? Will that be enough for the committee to get them in, or will other teams have to drop off for that to be possible?

Wooster winning out nets Wooster wins over Denison and Wittenberg.  They've still got h2h losses against Wabash and DePauw that are really troublesome.  Without diving into the quagmire that would be this tiebreak scenario, Wooster's best chance to make the tournament would be:
- Wabash beats Wittenberg on Saturday
- DePauw beats Wabash
- Allegheny (or Kenyon) beats DePauw

That gets a mess of teams at 7-2 in the league and a tiebreak that Wooster might win- I don't know.  Wooster's long win streak in this scenario might be the thing that puts them over. 

SCRATCH THAT.  Shame on me. 

Better hypothetical:
- Wabash beats Wittenberg
- Allegheny beats Wabash
- Wabash beats DePauw

Same mess of teams at 7-2, Wabash wins the Monon Bell.  This is MUCH better.  But all of that happening is probably more likely than Wooster getting an at-large bid if expected results hold.  Their losses are h2h with teams that are probably going to stay ahead of them in the rankings, even if Wooster beats Witt in Week 11.

Would the committee take into the circumstances that may have caused that slump? Obviously a team tragedy may reduce a teams ability to play at its best level. I appreciate the opinion Wally, thank you.

Quote from: wally_wabash on October 26, 2017, 10:22:56 AM
A lot of stuff is going to change between now and Selection Sunday, but I do think this first pass through the at-large process highlights a couple of things. 
- I think it's easier to see where the in/out line is and how it's a bit different than maybe we thought.  St. John's: not in.  Teams like George Fox, Wheaton, any OAC runner up, a third WIAC team...not even on the table.  You could easily have placed St. John's in and left CWRU out.  An undefeated team out- you get the idea.  The amount of runway that at-large teams have to land here is very, very small. 
- The presence of undefeated teams with no RRO results and not good strengths of schedule create issues for more traditional Pool C conference runners up.  I'm having a tough time figuring out how to handle them...it'll be interesting to see how the committee handles these scenarios if Springfield and CWRU do run the table.

Wally is there anyway Wooster gets a C bid if they win out? Suppose Wittenberg is undefeated that last game and Wooster beats them? Will that be enough for the committee to get them in, or will other teams have to drop off for that to be possible?

Quote from: HCAlum86 on September 18, 2017, 09:24:23 AM
Has anyone been able to gather any news related to the cause of death yet? I'm still shocked.

While nothing is confirmed, it is believed that it was brain related. The article is correct that it was not caused by trauma so perhaps an aneurysm had occurred. Could have happened if Clayton was playing any other sport.

The word is Wooster will still practice and play DePauw next week.

Bad news for Wooster.
http://www.woosterathletics.com/sports/fball/2017-18/releases/20170917ni5oor

Send your prayers to Clayton's family. It's a sad day for the community.